Create and Edit from RelationManager without modal

This is probably a question that might be answered somewhere, but I can't find it. I want to create and edit records from a relationmanager, without opening a modal. Just the normal

create

create

and

edit

edit

pages. For both actions I need the parent record to be sent with it.
Is this possible?

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