->maxLength(14)->minLength(14) at 14, because that's how i can allow the user to actually type the number with the spaces included and i make sure the user writes the entire 11 numbers.->stripCharacters(' ') is ran, the length becomes 11, and the ->minLength(11) fails. now when i change my code to ->maxLength(11)->minLength(11) this also fails because the field won't allow the user from writing more than 11 characters as the spaces are also counted.