trolley problem

96 Replies
helpful-purple
helpful-purple2mo ago
does the entire world know about the 15 people that lived
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
if the entire world knew that i (according to the law) murdered 5 people then i would not be living a good life
helpful-purple
helpful-purple2mo ago
the guilt would be crazy
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
i think i'd feel less guilt if i saved the 10 people's lives but i'd be feeling a Guilty verdict from the judge and jury
j
jOP2mo ago
no
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
oh cool even worse
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
(no loop holes) eh? well, if my only options are pull and don’t pull, and i cant do anything else, ill just keep pulling on it until it breaks
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
i think thats still a loop hole
j
jOP2mo ago
it says Pull or Don't pull, not "other(say in thread)"
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
you never said how to pull i pull back and forth
j
jOP2mo ago
i also said no loopholes
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
its not a loop hole its just one of the options
helpful-purple
helpful-purple2mo ago
what if i pull it from the top and break it causing everyone to die
j
jOP2mo ago
not the intended option STILL A LOOPHOLE
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
nuh uh its just the option itself
j
jOP2mo ago
using an option to try and get a result that is unintended is literally what a loophole is
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
its just how i choose to pull
j
jOP2mo ago
it’s not pull halfway it’s just pull
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
exactly
adverse-sapphire
adverse-sapphire2mo ago
dont pull, i dont care
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
its JUST pull
j
jOP2mo ago
i didn’t specify what kinda of lever it is
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
so i can pull however i want Ez
j
jOP2mo ago
you pull it at all, it stays stuck in the pull position
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
mk i break it then :)
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
its made of minecraft bedrock
j
jOP2mo ago
what does that accomplish
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
idk you tell me
j
jOP2mo ago
the track already switched the stick is worthless
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
i break the mechanism that locks it in place then do what i wanted to before before you came up with details to stop me
j
jOP2mo ago
you are actively trying to find loopholes
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
:) but pulling isnt a loophole :)
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
yes it is
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
oh so i cant pull
j
jOP2mo ago
>you pulled the lever >5 people have died >the world now knows you murdered them you made your choice
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
dang guess im stuck w one option then
j
jOP2mo ago
no loopholes now
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
okay but if i change my identity whatre they gonna do
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
so you're gonna mask one crime with another crime
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
legally change my identity it’s possible
j
jOP2mo ago
thats a loophole
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
how
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
but you've still (illegally) commited murder
j
jOP2mo ago
the world knows your changed identity even if you do
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
its after the original problem
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
i think its fair to discuss what we do afterwards
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
okay but why
j
jOP2mo ago
yea every government agency knows you committed a crime
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
okay i flee the country
j
jOP2mo ago
it’s a moral debate
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
i go to a place without extradition laws
j
jOP2mo ago
the entire world knows you did it
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
i think murder is illegal in most countries
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
okay but not everyone will care in some places depends where you go theres also always islands survival of the fittest
j
jOP2mo ago
the people who dont care are hated by the ones that do, they engage in a war, what now hmmm>:3
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
okay we form a union we fight the ones that do we nuke them problem solved
j
jOP2mo ago
the us military cares about what you did and they have a lot of nukes last i checked
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
they can be outran also who said i couldnt be alone
j
jOP2mo ago
fym they can be outran
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
lemme guess, youll make up a rule here to tell me i cant hide
j
jOP2mo ago
you can hide
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
its been done before
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
i looked away for 5 seconds what in the world
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
💀
nousernamefound
nousernamefound2mo ago
the United States is gonna launch a nuke if you pull the lever?
j
jOP2mo ago
yea but what are you gonna do when they delete your general direction
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
i mean i can change identitiee and move consistently before they can catch up stay anonymous its been done by multiple killers in the past before
j
jOP2mo ago
it took a weird route just now “change identity” how
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
not saying it’s the greatest, but im not gonna get charged for putting less lives at risk its called lying also im not staying in the US in this scenario thats a death wish bro
j
jOP2mo ago
anyways whatever this scenario doesnt have a definite consequences
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
YES I WINNNNN
j
jOP2mo ago
just know everyone,including every government agencies, knows you did it
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
albeit not a happy win
j
jOP2mo ago
think about it for a second
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
not my problem
j
jOP2mo ago
kinda is you may get arrested
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
not if im not there
j
jOP2mo ago
which country will you not be arrested in murder is illegal last i checked anyways i gtg
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
who said i had to go to a country ill go to some random island cya
j
jOP2mo ago
and die because you lack survival experience? actually i dont know if you lack survival skills
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
i was taught basic survival skills as a kid cause i liked to play outside and some family would teach me interesting skills
j
jOP2mo ago
ok what skills do you know how would you treat a broken leg
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
i wasnt taught that much but id imagine id try to snap it back in place and wrap it around with something so it can gradually heal itself makeshift cast i suppose
j
jOP2mo ago
im concerned
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
? itd be painful yet necessary
j
jOP2mo ago
you do not snap it back it place that’s actually really bad
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
depends
j
jOP2mo ago
i need to sleep byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
on the degree cya maybe i didnt word that right… realign it into position so it can heal similarly to before without as much dislocation or damage? i know surgeons do that whatever it doesnt really matter
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
would the world think i did a good thing or a bad thing because i would just not do shit and run away so im unaffiliated
j
jOP2mo ago
they only know you pulled a lever causing five people to die
extended-salmon
extended-salmon2mo ago
so they dont know it was to save other people
j
jOP2mo ago
yea
exotic-emerald
exotic-emerald2mo ago
I'd break that stoopid lever by pulling it back and forth multiple times
j
jOP2mo ago
you cant it locks

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