Conflict crash with Cheap Downloader

On new game creation, when loading in the game hard crashes. Cheap Downloader alone runs fine, so it has to be a conflict with one of the other mods I have installed. Edit: SMM doesn't know how to find my dump file/log. So... https://discord.com/channels/555424930502541343/1433106087380389958/1433119117082235101
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FICSIT-Fred
FICSIT-Fred•4w ago
SMM Version: 3.0.3
SML Version: 3.11.3
Installed Mods: 94
Game: WindowsClient CL 433351 from Heroic
Path: `/home/omo/Games/SatisfactoryEarlyAccess`
SMM Version: 3.0.3
SML Version: 3.11.3
Installed Mods: 94
Game: WindowsClient CL 433351 from Heroic
Path: `/home/omo/Games/SatisfactoryEarlyAccess`
-# Responding to Key Details for SMMDebug-2025-10-29-14-49-41.zip triggered by @Omo
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
(fyi @Andre Aquila <Aquila Industrial> ) weird, I only see a graphics crash in there can you send C:\ProgramData/NVIDIA/Streamline/FactoryGameEGS-Win64-Shipping/1745078152032693/sl-sha-220ff1ff.dmp? It seems fantastically unlikely to be relevant but if this is the crash you're getting that's where the actual details will seemingly be
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
that's what I'm sayin. xD errors spoke nothing to me about mod related issues. Thus resorted to binary sarching/disabling segments of mods until I got it to run. 0 bytes
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
Righto, never mind lol
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
holy damn, at 9:32:13 it created 2186 empty folders in that directory oh wait, between 11 seconds and 14 seconds :p
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
whatever NVidia is smoking, I want some
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
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Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
there was one at 9:26 that has a dmp file in it, that contains 357kb.
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
wait your FactoryGame.log doesn't look like it's loading CheapDownloader at all
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
maybe that was what was going to be loaded next... and on the very first cycle it crashed?
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
mods are loaded on boot, not on loading a save
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
ah, right. well all I can say, with it installed, crash, without it installed, game runs just fine
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
ok I did notice one thing, it looks like you probably have Dimensional Depot Downloader and the cheap version independently enabled in your profile
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
I do, now. one depends on the other I tested them independently, so now they are both manually installed.
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
Right, seemed like a long shot anyway well for the sake of clarity, can you please: * uninstall cheap downloader * uninstall downloader * reinstall cheap downloader * launch & send a fresh debug zip
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
I did a full clean profile, no crash. let me switch back to that and generate a debug
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
what if you start a new game with the full profile?
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
same result
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
Bizarre. I don't really understand how Unreal engine is * Not loading the mod * Having a graphics crash as a result I would be thinking your download of the mod got bitflipped or something, but the fact it works solo kinda rules that out
FICSIT-Fred
FICSIT-Fred•4w ago
Automated responses for Omo (291437828653580288)
Key Details for SMMFullDebug.zip
SMM Version: 3.0.3
SML Version: 3.11.3
Installed Mods: 94
Game: WindowsClient CL 433351 from Heroic
Path: `/home/omo/Games/SatisfactoryEarlyAccess`
SMM Version: 3.0.3
SML Version: 3.11.3
Installed Mods: 94
Game: WindowsClient CL 433351 from Heroic
Path: `/home/omo/Games/SatisfactoryEarlyAccess`
Key Details for SMMcleanDebug.zip
SMM Version: 3.0.3
SML Version: 3.11.3
Installed Mods: 3
Game: WindowsClient CL 433351 from Heroic
Path: `/home/omo/Games/SatisfactoryEarlyAccess`
SMM Version: 3.0.3
SML Version: 3.11.3
Installed Mods: 3
Game: WindowsClient CL 433351 from Heroic
Path: `/home/omo/Games/SatisfactoryEarlyAccess`
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
also, all the mods have been reinstalled at least once today.
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
yes, but that'll be from your local cache unless you manually wiped it
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
ah, I am ignorant of SMM
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
oh this "clean" factorygame.log is the same as the one from earlier ...and both of them are from April
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
O.o da hekaa?
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
>factorygame.log
FICSIT-Fred
FICSIT-Fred•4w ago
Hit windows + r . Enter %localappdata%/FactoryGame/Saved/Logs in the opened box then click on Ok. That will open a folder, send the file named FactoryGame.log from there
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
but screenshot the directory with the date modified column visible if possible
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
I am on linux :p
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
my condolences ;D
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
:p hardly
FICSIT-Fred
FICSIT-Fred•4w ago
It has been attached to this message. -# Responding to Crash found in FactoryGame.log triggered by @Omo
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
for some reason it's grabbing themf rom the wrong prefix good job SMM
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
OK! This makes more sense than graphics crashes lol
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
right?!
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
There we go, now I can see the mod's getting loaded
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
apparently it just guesses what prefix you are using instead of actually checking in the settings for heroic :p I have dozen of stale prefixes from reinstalls and migrated home directories XD
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
are you comfortable with writing up an issue for that on github?
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
certainly point me at it
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
GitHub
GitHub - satisfactorymodding/SatisfactoryModManager: A mod manager ...
A mod manager for easy installation of mods and modloader for Satisfactory - satisfactorymodding/SatisfactoryModManager
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
superstar Still don't know what's causing the crash but it is now obviously recipe related, which makes sense for CheapDownloader - best guess is it's trying to modify something another mod is also trying to modify something is provoking ContentLib (a library mods can use for changing recipes etcs, though that's not how CheapDownloader seems to do it) into its "spam the log with everything" mode, which may be a common cause
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
I do think I turned on some debug setting earlier trying to find the root cause issue created I think I know how I got the weird prefix too... when setting up satisfactory on the new distro, I had to point at different directories after reinstalling heroic. And it autofilled a "pfx" at the end of the directory path I gave it XD
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
I don't think ContentLib's maximal debugging can be turned on manually, I think it's a "panic" response
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
What I am using now: /mnt/GG/Heroic/Prefixes/default/pfx/drive_c where it should be: /mnt/GG/Heroic/Prefixes/default/drive_c/
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
lol well that's interesting SMM clearly can find the prefix correctly, since it's putting mods in the right place - I'm guessing just the prefix isn't run through to the code for finding the log.
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
mods go in the game folder, not the prefix but it is finding the default prefix for heroic... just not the correct prefix for the game definitions within heroic
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
Oh the game install doesn't go in there? so that's just for the appdata stuff?
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
tyep
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
I know of heroic, but no direct experience
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
interesting... I think the pfx is part of the default. Maybe the previous version of heroic didn't use that.
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
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Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
note the "pfx" isn't after default now I'm just scratching my head, since I didn't somehow cause this myself. wonder if SMM will freak out if I delete the old prefix.
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
no idea tbh Might be worth updating the first post of this thread with some more detail on the CheapDownloader issue & linking to the actual log since quite a lot of SMM oddness crept in (probably worth keeping the debug zip since the SMM log and modlist in it is correct)
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
updated
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
Nicely done 🙂
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
oh, right. ... and that's the wrong one
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
and I just had a mild heart attack when looking into the crash data... ;p <CommandLine>FactoryGame -AUTH_LOGIN=unused -AUTH_PASSWORD=ca0597a4beb74ac5965b433c00753fec -AUTH_TYPE=exchangecode -epicapp=CrabEA -epicenv=Prod -EpicPortal -epicusername=Neseface -epicuserid=b672e41a0285416fb20c9ec2d70c3fbb -epiclocale=en -epicsandboxid=crab</CommandLine> guessing it's a session id or some such
sjhoward
sjhoward•4w ago
yeah there is code in SMM for stripping out anything that is actually identifiable
Omo
OmoOP•4w ago
an epic story in which epic logs secret session cookies and identifiable information... 16 hours of modding, 0 hours of game time.

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