AV1 video track doesn't show up in Adobe Premiere :(

My editor is having an issue getting the video portion of this AV1 file to show up in Adobe Premiere Pro 14.4.0 (Build 38) This is the information that I got from mediainfo about the file: (there is some audio tracks after this, but I think this is the important part)
General
Complete name : E:\Stream Recordings\2023-03-11\2023-03-11 11-25-12 -seg3.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/av01/iso2/mp41)
File size : 3.33 GiB
Duration : 1 h 20 min
Overall bit rate : 5 918 kb/s
Writing application : Lavf58.76.100

Video
ID : 1
Format : AV1
Format/Info : AOMedia Video 1
Format profile : [email protected]
Codec ID : av01
Duration : 1 h 20 min
Source duration : 1 h 20 min
Bit rate : 4 067 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 4 297 kb/s
Width : 2 560 pixels
Height : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.018
Stream size : 2.29 GiB (69%)
Source stream size : 2.42 GiB (73%)
Color range : Full
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
mdhd_Duration : 4835169
Codec configuration box : av1C
General
Complete name : E:\Stream Recordings\2023-03-11\2023-03-11 11-25-12 -seg3.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/av01/iso2/mp41)
File size : 3.33 GiB
Duration : 1 h 20 min
Overall bit rate : 5 918 kb/s
Writing application : Lavf58.76.100

Video
ID : 1
Format : AV1
Format/Info : AOMedia Video 1
Format profile : [email protected]
Codec ID : av01
Duration : 1 h 20 min
Source duration : 1 h 20 min
Bit rate : 4 067 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 4 297 kb/s
Width : 2 560 pixels
Height : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.018
Stream size : 2.29 GiB (69%)
Source stream size : 2.42 GiB (73%)
Color range : Full
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
mdhd_Duration : 4835169
Codec configuration box : av1C
This happens with both 12.2 and 13beta1. Is there a configuration that he might be missing? I am starting to think it might be a recording setting in OBS?
Video Card: MSI RTX 4090
Encoder: NVIDIA NVENC AV1
Rate Control: CQP
CQ Level: 28
Keyframe Interval: 0s
Preset: P6: Slower (Better Quality)
Tuning: High Quality
Multipass Mode: Two Passes (quarter Resolution)
Profile: main
Psycho Visual Tuning
GPU: 0
Max B-frames: 2
Video Card: MSI RTX 4090
Encoder: NVIDIA NVENC AV1
Rate Control: CQP
CQ Level: 28
Keyframe Interval: 0s
Preset: P6: Slower (Better Quality)
Tuning: High Quality
Multipass Mode: Two Passes (quarter Resolution)
Profile: main
Psycho Visual Tuning
GPU: 0
Max B-frames: 2
any assistance or guidance would be GREATLY appreciated ❤️
35 Replies
Addie
Addie2y ago
Premiere doesn’t support AV1 yet AFAIK The Voukoder plugin adds export support but idk if it’ll help with import The audio is just normal AAC so that’s why it still reads it.
StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
dang 😦
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MEE62y ago
GG @striderstone, you just advanced to level 1 !
Woalis
Woalis2y ago
Good to know.
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
Currently I will disagree with you. Streaming/recording 1440p 5 days a week and then scrubbing through the vods having ~5-14 vods stored locally until done and moved to drive takes up a TON of space. moving to AV1 was less space on local drive >> less space on google drive >> less time uploading to drive >> less time for my editor to download files >> less time for him to upload to youtube. I was missing a TON, you are entitled to your opinion though. Different for everyone's situation
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
hmmmm my old videos were a WAY bigger size, talking 14gb down to 6GB with using HIGHER quality. Maybe I was just doing a ton of stuff wrong
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
This is what I am currently running but it sounds like I am doing something incorrectly now.
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
my editor already moved over to davinci and he seems to like it. the rendering is a little faster for him I guess.
Addie
Addie2y ago
I'd turn of Psycho for recording but you're not doing anything wrong i mean, if they're alsready in resolve there's no point in switching away from AV1 lol
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
yeah, they are in resolve now making the switch I looked ALL OVER THE PLACE, I still have no idea what "CQ Level" is
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Addie
Addie2y ago
it's just a quality target 1-60 usually, though that has expanded And the AV1 CQ number is actually multiplied by 4 afaik
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
does that mean lower number = better quality lol is there something I should not go under? while using AV1 specifically the machine I have is relatively powerful
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
Playing Magic the Gathering Arena mainly. Gotta have that high frame rate card action. VERY demanding!
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
You think this would be ok to test with then? I never had look-ahead enabled or Psycho Visual Tuning off, so that will be interesting to see the differences if there is much.
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MEE6
MEE62y ago
GG @striderstone, you just advanced to level 2 !
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
fixed*
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
haha yeah, I don't even have that enabled for streaming >_>
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
went above 6000 bitrate for the memes. it seems to actually reflect it in the video stats when I look at it
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
I thought twitch "maxed" out at 6 even though it's using the AWS CDN, I thought there was some sort of a restriction. I guess if there is a higher bitrate and some checks for it to make sure it's smoother. (I am partner if that means anything)
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StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
yeah that's the only reason amazon would be interested in Twitch. I'm pretty sure Bezos isn't a secret pro gamer or anything. haha at least it's quality tech for the most part
StriderStone
StriderStone2y ago
thanks for the help. I'll give this a try tonight.
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Fcenturylink
Fcenturylink2y ago
I personally run 7800 because A)amd encoder poo and B)it works. Has for me for years 😉
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