software bedmesh doesn’t seem to translate to physical bed

Basically I have my the current bed mesh that’s with 0.2 variance. The middle dip seems to be more of a bed problem. I have tightened and retightened X gantry and y rails but always end up with this shape. Nevertheless it’s an acceptable variance. However the low areas are to far from the nozzle and the upper areas are too high. So it seems my physical bed is not properly moving up and down according to the bed mesh. Am thinking not enough z torque or lube to the z rods? My steppers are uncooled so using the uncooled configs for the steppers if that makes a difference.
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blacksmithforlife
hehe I recognize that print
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
🤫 My baby needs cooling
blacksmithforlife
But honestly - looks like it isn't sticking well. I would baby step it down a little and clean the build plate with soap and water, then IPA then let it dry
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
I thought so too many time, but doing just the base now and …
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
It’s absolutely fine. But for bigger prints the bed mesh variations kills me
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BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
Only thing I changed is that I put only the base to print instead of all parts spread out.
blacksmithforlife
what does your first layer look like? Do you have enough squish?
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
It looked like this. So perfect
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BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
I didn’t take a pic when I started just the base, but I watched until it was done.
blacksmithforlife
there are gaps there - so to me that says you need a tiny bit more squish. Also what speed are you doing for your first layer?
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
printer config
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
Where did you see gaps??? Bottom right corner even has some over extrusion due to bed being slightly closer there I usually print at 40mm for first later but for this I did 25mm/s
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
Yes That’s the problem the top part is not properly compensated
blacksmithforlife
if I recall correctly I had to lower my bed to get the right squish and then I had to lower the EM for the first layer because by default it was like 130% but you are even seeing it on the bottom part
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
I meant upper section Bottom right corner for example is overextruded because of being closer to the bed My first layer line width is .45. On a 0.4 nozzle
blacksmithforlife
yeah that's fine, I have that too
blacksmithforlife
I believe by default it is higher than 100%
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BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
Let me check real quick My son is on his Minecraft hour 🙈
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
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BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
He gets to play from 19h to 20h
blacksmithforlife
I would still lower your nozzle some more, but that is me
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
I have done that but then stuff gets over extruded where the bed is 0.1 higher 🙁
blacksmithforlife
You could try increasing the probe points to make the mesh better?
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
It’s 10x10 from 7x7. [bed_mesh] speed: 300 fade_end: 10.0 mesh_pps: 2,2 horizontal_move_z: 5 probe_count: 10,10 Ok did I a full reinstall and it’s working now properly. Guess something in my install or updates was corrupted :/. Although I always update ratos before doing anything else. Edit: Can again see the z rod move up and down slightly while printing
ptegler
ptegler15mo ago
suggestion: adda little 'flag' to the base of your Z lead screws. A simple peice of blue painters tape wrapped around as a flag makes it easy to see the screw rotating as you print. Aftfer awhile,,, you can almost mentally track if the screw is following the mesh you are currently running
BulMaster
BulMaster15mo ago
I kid you not i was thinking of the same, but to just draw a small blue line on top of the lead screw 😅