Frog TKL Questions from a newbie in the mechanical keyboard hobby
(1) Does the Frog TKL support ISO layout and stepped caps lock out-of-the-box, or do I have to do soldering?;
(2) Related to the question above, do I have to purchase an additional plate if I’m planning to have the Frog TKL in ISO layout and stepped caps lock?;
(3) Related to the first question, if I purchase the Frog TKL, do I only get the case/chassis and will have to search for a compatible PCB that supports ISO layout and stepped caps lock, or does it come included?; and
(4) Does the Frog TKL only use a 7u spacebar (Tsangan layout), or does it support the 6.25u spacebar?
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frog should have iso plate + pcb options
wk version can do both 7u and 6.5 bottom
wkl can only do 7 for obvious reasons
note that wkl and wk frog have different function rows
f13 on wkl and f12 on wk iirc
ah okay, so the ISO version plate + pcb is a different product than the ones that do ANSI?
from what i understand default plate has dual layout support
pcbs depends on each one
since there are multiple compat with frog
im not like 100% sure cause i dont own a frog myself just looked at store quickly to check for ya
based off your questions id assume you wanna go for iso + 6.25u bottom?
would get a wk frog + whatever plate you feel like
then just make sure pcb is f12 variant with iso support
galatea can cover any frog layout option
the hotswap PCBs (Apollo) supports only ANSI
price to pay for being hotswap
making multilayout support with those giant ass sockets is a pain🫡
yeah, I got a big ISO layout enter keycap + a stepped caps lock keycap I wanna use, which PCB do I get?
big iso enter
we talking the funny one or normal iso enter
the inverted L-shaped one that comes in most sets
ah'
thought you meant this
normal iso galatea can cover
galatea is name of the PCB?
can just check the pcb support diagram
go geon store
on his pcb section just make sure the pcb has the usb slot top right between nav and frow
you could also technically get a fuyu but thats for the f1-8k so would have redundant features
welp, I have bad eye-hand coordination and I might mess up the soldering, there's no hotswap pcb option that supports ISO and stepped caps lock?
not that i can see
iso is a 'niche' layout option so usually not catered to for htoswap
it's incredibly difficult to mess up soldering switches to keyboard PCB once you educate yourself with the proper steps and precaution
I think I'll learn soldering first, then
unless you have some sort of hand tremors soldering is 100% doable for anyone
totally understand the pain of having a nice enter key that is ISO
looks at GMK Maestro kit
my hands shake, so yeah, I probably do
hand shake is fine
i mean like proper proper tremors
for hand shake just anchor your elbows when soldering
like on edge of desk
I see people advertise solder/ desolder services on r/mm
perhaps using a pro service is an option?
I'll just call up my electronics elective teacher to re-teach me how to do soldering hahaha xd
my dad tried to teach me soldering and gave up. Concede that I got the hand-shaking gene not from him.
turned out he was so good that he could use a giant iron for fine electronics work when normies need to use a TS100
lol
if you get a fine tip for normal iron is same as a portable iron tho
when I go back to Malaysia this time I'll show you a pic of that old iron
europe gets cucked once again
skill issueKeyboard manufacturers just dont understand how great the ISO enter is