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blendOS•3y ago
LoneWolf

DualBoot with windows

Hello ! i tried to install blend os in dualboot with windows but i didn't succeed. I followed all the steps in the doc, everything went well but when I reboot I can't boot on blend os because it seems grub isn't installed. Can you help me?
187 Replies
SvGaming
SvGaming•3y ago
The dualboot windows guide clearly states that is it unfinished
Worsa
Worsa•3y ago
@lonewolf it works. Atheist for me. I manged to quality boot but by no means am I someone that's knows all the answers. I just figure out work worked. I believe @SvGaming right as the guide does state that so i added a another partition after the blend os install like garuda or something and bam all OS where there. That's the only way I got it to work. @LoneWolf
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
Can you show me how you do it ?
Mrugendra Kulkarni
Mrugendra Kulkarni•3y ago
I created 2 partitions for boot and system and check flags for boot partition as boot and it worked. You can try that
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
How i can check flags ? Sorry but i'm not an expert
Mrugendra Kulkarni
Mrugendra Kulkarni•3y ago
Right click on the partition Manage flags Then check the boot option and ok
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
On gparted ?
Mrugendra Kulkarni
Mrugendra Kulkarni•3y ago
Yess sorry for late reply
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
ok thx, i will try and tell u if it's work
Valkyrja
Valkyrja•3y ago
mrugendrakulkarni received a thank you Jao!
Mrugendra Kulkarni
Mrugendra Kulkarni•3y ago
Sure
Mrugendra Kulkarni
Mrugendra Kulkarni•3y ago
This are the partition in my system, hope this will help you
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LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
@Mrugendra Kulkarni I didn't succeed, the system partition is created but the boot partition is empty.
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
manually install grub
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
On the boot partition ?
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
yeah use the mutifier if nessescary
Sapphire
Sapphire•3y ago
https://git.blendos.co/asterisk/blendos-mutifier (If anyone wants to contribute then I'll move this to Github) - To use mutifier, run sudo system install gum beforehand. - mutify-cli requires no extra dependencies and is used as such: mutify-cli <mount-point> [other-mount-point], ex. mutify-cli /usr/
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Asterisk / blendOS Mutifier ¡ GitLab
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LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
Did u have a tutorial plz ?
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
nope, just follow the archwiki do it from a chroot dualbooting is a bit more difficult so you need this kind of knowledge sorry We're making a guide but I don't know what methods work
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
Ok i will try Very complicated for a 3 min install
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
it's just because rs hasn't added dualboot support
Mrugendra Kulkarni
Mrugendra Kulkarni•3y ago
Retry and open the gparted with the install ui only, and refresh the partitions, before that completely delete them it may be the issue Or you can try the above one too
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
I try to manually install grub on the boot partition, who can show me how to do it ?
optometer
optometer•3y ago
@LoneWolf I'm no specialist or anything and havent figured out grub yet. But I have found this out what ever grub garuda or arch uses and how it installed works. I had windows installed on machine then I partitioned my drive for 2 more OS's. I then installed blend os first then I install garuda and all of them show up in grub. hope it helps
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
Oh ok i understand, but i don't have enough storage to dualboot with 3 os
optometer
optometer•3y ago
Then I suggest learning how to install grub manually. I havent learned that much about it other then know when its broken.
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
I'm stuck here lol
optometer
optometer•3y ago
what your disk space
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
512 mb for boot partition and 50gb for the blend os system partition
optometer
optometer•3y ago
have you tried Windows Boot Manager to load to blend
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
When i select it i boot on windows And my windows doesn't find my blend because it's ext4
Mrugendra Kulkarni
Mrugendra Kulkarni•3y ago
Try with bios options where we have used to boot to usb
optometer
optometer•3y ago
MUO
How to Replace GRUB With Windows Boot Manager
When you dual-boot Linux with Windows, GRUB is automatically set as the default bootloader. Here's how you can replace GRUB with Windows Boot Manager.
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
Ok i will try i tried but when i go on linux i can't select anything
Worsa
Worsa•3y ago
I would just go with a different distro till they complete it.
Tarf
Tarf•3y ago
I made the same post while back and uh they promised to make dualbooy guide finished but so far im still waiting for them to finish the dualboot guide I really wanna use this over vanilla os Even they dont got dualboot support 💀
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
Well now I don’t know what works for dualbooting
Tarf
Tarf•3y ago
lol i want to install blend os alongside with my windows install
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
Yeah a lot of people do
Tarf
Tarf•3y ago
yea
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
But the problem is Rudra made this a bit difficult I’m not sure how on earth you’d get GRUB working with os prober
Tarf
Tarf•3y ago
oh Mhm I see
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
With the immutability and all
Tarf
Tarf•3y ago
yea So my best guess is to do it manually Which is going to be hars Hard
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
That’s what the guide would say It’s partially finished
Tarf
Tarf•3y ago
yea i saw it
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
Just have to get to the actual bit where you fuck with GRUB
Tarf
Tarf•3y ago
true aight goodluck with that man
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
I just don’t know how as the mutifier changes are overwritten on updates
Tarf
Tarf•3y ago
i mean you can research? many topics on stackoverflow or reddit
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
I know how on arch this is new
Tarf
Tarf•3y ago
oh
Valkyrja
Valkyrja•3y ago
@Tarf, you've gained the level 1
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
because I need to edit potentially read-only configs (/etc should be read-write) to enable os-prober, while also installing it
█Morgan█Weedman█
Just use refind Anyone that wants to dual boot. sudo system install refind reboot sudo refind-install reboot and make sure refind is selected as boot option in bios/uefi
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
It works with every distro/ Windows next to BlendOs? @█Morgan█Weedman█
█Morgan█Weedman█
Yup it's refind
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Because I have the same problem with pop os as main OS
█Morgan█Weedman█
I use it as my primary bootloader and then sideload whatever from it
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Never used refind
█Morgan█Weedman█
Basically you would boot to it
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Do you delete boot partitions and grubs ?
Valkyrja
Valkyrja•3y ago
@Vickes, you've gained the level 1
█Morgan█Weedman█
Then it will give you the option to boot to grub or windows Nope Just install and run refind-install and then change it to primary boot device
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
How it works ? I have difficulty to understand how bootloader, boot partitions, grub works
█Morgan█Weedman█
So most of the time you have 2 partitions EFI/boot and your operating system
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Yes I understand that, but I wanted to understand how it works
█Morgan█Weedman█
And you have your bootloaders in the EFI partition and then it will lboot you to each os
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
But grub isn't already a bootloader ? I know refind can do "chain" but why not ignore grub and direct start pop os (for windows I understand because it's proprietary code and I think it work better with window launcher)
█Morgan█Weedman█
You can directly boot from refined You can skip grub
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Ok nice
█Morgan█Weedman█
But I tend to stick with using it as a chain loader
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Ok! Thanks for the solution.
█Morgan█Weedman█
Np it's very easy to use It's a nice gui too and you can theme it easily.
Valkyrja
Valkyrja•3y ago
@█Morgan█Weedman█, you've gained the level 2
█Morgan█Weedman█
That's the theme I use
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
have you actually tested this
█Morgan█Weedman█
Yes No different then any other distro because it doesn't do anything on the immutable part I've said this since this post was made 😝 Maybe not this one actually but I did tell someone somewhere in here about it a while ago Somewhereeeeee innn theee discorrrddddd
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
yes, but when do you run this post-install or a chroot
█Morgan█Weedman█
Oh just post install Just like any other system package
█Morgan█Weedman█
sudo system install refind This will get the installer for you
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
though if GRUB doesn't work post-install you'd be screwed 💀 and you'd have to use a chroot anyway
█Morgan█Weedman█
This all happens within the distros Sorry I misunderstood You install the distro as Normal This doesn't touch grub Step 1: install blend and reboot into os Step 2: sudo system install refind Step 3: reboot Step 4: sudo refind-install Step 5: change boot to refind in bios/uefi
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
yeah I meant if grub breaks and prevents step 1 rebooting into the OS post-install for some it happens
█Morgan█Weedman█
If that happens it's nothing to do with refind
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
and how would you do step 5 everybody's UEFI is different
█Morgan█Weedman█
Naw they are all the same hahah just different looks
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
not really for example my UEFI looks like it's from 2005 and the way options are organized is always different some people can't add UEFI boot entries manually
█Morgan█Weedman█
You don't 🤣 It's all done automatically From refind
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
refind is installed, but "change boot option to refind" is not very descriptive where?
█Morgan█Weedman█
In the bio/UEFI
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
and is refind UEFI only?
█Morgan█Weedman█
I think so.
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
I'll test your method on real hardware
█Morgan█Weedman█
It works I used it day 1 of blend install because I have a windows install I need to use 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
I have to try it I won't be trying to dualboot, but like any bootloader, it should work with a single OS
█Morgan█Weedman█
Oh yeah, it will work with a single os. Like I was saying to buddy above, you can actually boot directly to os skipping grub So I've had times where grub breaks and it will let me boot. Also works with btrfs snapshots 👌
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
we use ext4 by default, so not too useful for most
█Morgan█Weedman█
Yeah I know that just for people who do use btrfs
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
@█Morgan█Weedman█ with refind i can dualboot blend os and widnows ?
LoneWolf
LoneWolfOP•3y ago
nice, i will try it
Valkyrja
Valkyrja•3y ago
@LoneWolf, you've gained the level 1
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
I have confirmed this works
optometer
optometer•3y ago
@█Morgan█Weedman█ Thank you. I learned something great today
Valkyrja
Valkyrja•3y ago
morganweedman received a thank you Jao!
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
@█Morgan█Weedman█ docs changes pushed, they're building
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
built I used rEFInd to finish the dualboot guide probably needs some polishing
█Morgan█Weedman█
Nice awesome to see! I'll check it out
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
I installed it now. Are you sure that I have to "sudo refind-install" ? When i reboot (step 3) i already have refind asking me for what distro i want to launch
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
if refind is alr there you're fine
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Ok... I have refind and BlendOS is not here. I checked all and it's not here And refind deleted my UEFI (wtf ?) i cannot go to uefi/bios setup at boot @█Morgan█Weedman█@ム丂イ乇尺ノ丂ズ
█Morgan█Weedman█
Don't know what you did. If you followed steps all will work. I doubt it broke anything as it makes its own files and doesn't touch any of yours Did you do sudo refind-install? Send a picture of what your boot menu looks like @Vickes
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
@█Morgan█Weedman█ I did what you say. With sudo apt install refind, it auto install it (like refind-install) so I haven't done it. When I reboot, it freeze on black screen when I go on UEFI setup (I have to fix that urgently), boot menu and refind work, but no BlendOs entry. I did what you say
█Morgan█Weedman█
Sudo apt?
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Yes I'm on pop os
█Morgan█Weedman█
Ok so first send me a picture of what it looks like when u boot Also do Sudo refind-install
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
When I boot it go to refind It's not recommended
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Not for ubuntu based distro
█Morgan█Weedman█
Yes it is right there. Linux and Mac os Lol Just do it If you're using Linux or macOS, and if you can't or don't want to use a distribution package file, the easiest way to install rEFInd is to use the refind-install script.
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Search for this on the page If you're using Ubuntu, you should be able to install using the PPA as follows: $ sudo apt-add-repository ppa:rodsmith/refind $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install refind
█Morgan█Weedman█
Just do what I said untill then I can't help you. If you do t do what the manual is saying then idk bud
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
I said refind work but no BlendOs entry.
█Morgan█Weedman█
sudo refind-install Yes so run the command sudo refind-install
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
The manual say that Ubuntu user don't have to sudo refind install because it do it automatically when using apt
█Morgan█Weedman█
Maybe it didn't do it properly So do it again
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
It says success and all work for refind
█Morgan█Weedman█
Did you rerun the command?
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Just blendos is not here No
█Morgan█Weedman█
Bruh sudo refind-install Copy and Paste
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
If no boot files I don't know how refind going to find blendos Didn't change anything
█Morgan█Weedman█
Did you run it? And rebooted?
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Yes
█Morgan█Weedman█
Are you sure 😏
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
I just did it
█Morgan█Weedman█
Are you really sure
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Yes I say I just did it
█Morgan█Weedman█
Are you really really really sure
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
:risichoc2: Yeah
█Morgan█Weedman█
How sure are you?
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Very
█Morgan█Weedman█
Really really really really really sure? Lol I'm just messing with ya Um
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Yeeeeeee
█Morgan█Weedman█
Let me see your bootmenu?
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
My bootmenu have refind, and pop os entry I have to go to work
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
We can continue this evening
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
This. Is. Not. Ubuntu.
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
.... I use pop os that is based on Ubuntu. I didn't talk about blendos I use pop os to install refind, because I don't have access to blendos @█Morgan█Weedman█I'm here if you want, tell me
█Morgan█Weedman█
Idk bud I have zero problems and I've been using refind for years
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
ok no problem, but me yes i do what you say and it didn't work np but don't tell its always work
█Morgan█Weedman█
Let me see your boot menu.
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Refind or UEFI boot menu ?
█Morgan█Weedman█
Both actually would help @Vickes
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
ok, i'm at work, i send u pics tonight
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
@█Morgan█Weedman█
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█Morgan█Weedman█
Just reinstal blend you must have broke something
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
already two times I installed it and it's like that everytimes
█Morgan█Weedman█
That's that's a problem on your end not bend Blend
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
it doesn't install files on the boot partition... i check it by mount the boot partition and nothing on it it's blend BlendOS have a problem to install files on boot partition 2 installations and he doesn't add files I deleted BlendOs, sorry but too many bugs for the moment. I'll retry on the next version
█Morgan█Weedman█
Don't know bud I've had zero problems
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
@█Morgan█Weedman█ no worries, it's not your fault
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
█Morgan█Weedman█
Are you using automatic partitions or manual
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
Manual because I do dual boot Automatic erase all harddisk
Al-khalifah abu-linux
no way to fix?
█Morgan█Weedman█
Can you boot without refind to blend? See I'm thinking you are not installing it correctly
Vickes
Vickes•3y ago
for me no, I think some files are not correctly installed if you talk to me no, i unintalled blendos 😦 , I installed it correctly. Just it don't install /boot files
█Morgan█Weedman█
Can you boot after installing? If not then you didn't install correctly
Vince
Vince•3y ago
What if its a legacy bios system? I meant like its on a 10 year old laptop, which doesn't have EFI support afaik, will that work?
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
Nobody has those anymore
Vince
Vince•3y ago
I do :(
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
Turn off Legacy mode or upgrade and stop living in the past
Vince
Vince•3y ago
Theres reasons why one might not upgrade. I think mine is valid. I can only just wait till someone else can find a solution
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You can use blend without dualbooting Blend’s grub supports legacy systems
Al-khalifah abu-linux
in my case when i try mount boot partition (i have 2 boot partition, one is the main (250mb) and another created by me for dualbooting) it says /mnt/boot/efi not found
Llight
Llight•3y ago
In the image in the guide it shows 6 partitions and the boot and system being both ext4 are you shure this is correct?
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
Boot should be fat32
Rahulz7
Rahulz7•3y ago
anyone know how to shrink disk size in blendOs .I cannot create a new partition
Asterisk
Asterisk•3y ago
shrink the disk from a livecd in gparted
Rahulz7
Rahulz7•3y ago
It's not working

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