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vicious-gold

Installer wont launch?

Hi, So first time trying Heroic launcher (flatpak) but i have plenty of experiance with play on linux, wine, winetricks, etc. My internet is EXTREMELY slow so i dont do online installs, i download the exe's myself and use those. so i have them available when tweaking/fiddling breaks things and i dont have to re-d/l them again. I am trying to install a game and after filling out the new app form (excluding the select executable line) I click on run installer first and chose an installer (gog) and then .... nothing happens. (oh, also the file select window shows up BEHIND the new app form, very wierd) I cant click on finish (i guess because select executable is not filled but how can i select the game executable if the game hasnt been installed yet) the wine version chosen (lutris-4.13), was it installed with the flatpak or does heroic still need to d/l it? (is that why the installer isnt running? it isnt showing any visual cue that its busy d/l'ing something) the faq talks about wine-GE-latest .... that is not on my list of wine versions? all i have is lutris-4.13, lutris-fshack, tkg-4.0, tkg-4.2 and proton 5.0 ???
59 Replies
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Those versions of wine at 5+ years old I understand your Internet is slow, but like you will get a massive upgrade by spending the time to download a recent version
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
so those are versions on my machine, not versions heroic has access to? ok, looks like heroic is d/l'ing wine-ge
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Yeah it may not have access Depends on the path
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
i am trying to set paths to permanenstly mounted hdd's (/media/mountname/heroic) and when i click select the path displayed in heroic settings is /run/user/1000/doc/aLpHaNuMeRiC/heroic ???
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
You have to give heroic the permission to that path Through flatpak
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
sigh, thought that might be a problem does it need permission to the locations of the installers too?
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Probably not Since you only run then once
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
u got a link for the permission modification or must i google?
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Just google lol I'm on mobile
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
smile, flatseal? thats what 3 answers say so far
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Ye Flatseal works cli is easier if you don't have Internet
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
one of the reasons i normally avoid flatpak is because when u do flatpak list to get the app id so u can run other flatpak commands on it u get ...something.otherthing at least with snaps the id is short enough to be displayed when u ask for it!!!! ok, pathing fixed this is the kind of thing that should be in the github wiki >.<
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
lol facts the IDs are so long
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
ok, paths fixed, wine-GE-latest is now the selected version .... but run installer first is still doing nothing
equal-aqua
equal-aqua2y ago
permission to location of the installer may also be required if it depends on more files
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
tried that also tested with a solo exe installer its not helpful that u dont even get a processing circle or any feedback at all
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
True Def something that can be improved
equal-aqua
equal-aqua2y ago
share Heroic log, from settings after you tried to run the installer
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
the UI already has mouse over popups for other errors/additional info/etc adding a spinning processing circle that changed to an exclamation mark in a red triangle which shows wine crashed or file permission denied etc would be very helpful where is the log? /home/..../Heroic/log ?
equal-aqua
equal-aqua2y ago
you can get the exact file from heroic settings
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
thats cool!
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
only one ERROR and no FATAL log......
equal-aqua
equal-aqua2y ago
what wine version do you have selected in the modal when you add the game you may need to switch it back and forth so it's set to proper value
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
wine-GE-latest like the faq says we must use before asking, just finished d/l'ing it less than an hr ago
equal-aqua
equal-aqua2y ago
(23:44:13) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Default Wine - Not Found
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
yeah, that might be a problem .....
borgrel@BobblesPlaything:~$ wine version
002c:fixme:winediag:LdrInitializeThunk wine-staging 8.13 is a testing version containing experimental patches.
002c:fixme:winediag:LdrInitializeThunk Please mention your exact version when filing bug reports on winehq.org.
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
Application could not be started, or no application associated with the specifie
d file.
ShellExecuteEx failed: File not found.
borgrel@BobblesPlaything:~$ wine version
002c:fixme:winediag:LdrInitializeThunk wine-staging 8.13 is a testing version containing experimental patches.
002c:fixme:winediag:LdrInitializeThunk Please mention your exact version when filing bug reports on winehq.org.
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
Application could not be started, or no application associated with the specifie
d file.
ShellExecuteEx failed: File not found.
so i need to install wine as per wineHQ? the wine versions that heroic downloads and uses are not independant and needs a functional install behind it to operate??
borgrel@BobblesPlaything:~$ wine --version
wine-8.13 (Staging)
borgrel@BobblesPlaything:~$ wine --version
wine-8.13 (Staging)
i should probably be sleeping if i'm making this many stupid mistakes i dont know why its not picking up a system default
(00:12:13) DEBUG: [Backend]: Unable to load Steam Libraries, libraryfolders.vdf not found

(00:13:01) INFO: [Backend]: Writing config for 5uZZVugVErWuv4ZeKdrp7w

(00:13:01) INFO: [Backend]: Changed config: winePrefix from /home/borgrel/Games/Heroic/Prefixes/default to /media/games/heroic/prefixes/UFO Afterlight

(00:13:01) WARNING: [Backend]: Required prefix files are missing, running `verifyWinePrefix` to create prefix

(00:13:01) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Default Wine - Not Found

(00:13:01) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Default Wine - Not Found

(00:13:27) INFO: [Backend]: Writing config for 5uZZVugVErWuv4ZeKdrp7w

(00:13:27) INFO: [Backend]: Changed config: wineVersion from {"bin":"","name":"Default Wine - Not Found","type":"wine"} to {"bin":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/bin/wine","name":"Wine - Wine-GE-latest","type":"wine","lib":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/lib64","lib32":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/lib","wineserver":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/bin/wineserver"}

(00:13:27) WARNING: [Backend]: Required prefix files are missing, running `verifyWinePrefix` to create prefix

(00:13:27) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Wine - Wine-GE-latest

(00:13:27) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Wine - Wine-GE-latest

(00:13:27) DEBUG: [Backend]: Running Wine command: wineboot --init

(00:15:16) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Wine - Wine-GE-latest
(00:12:13) DEBUG: [Backend]: Unable to load Steam Libraries, libraryfolders.vdf not found

(00:13:01) INFO: [Backend]: Writing config for 5uZZVugVErWuv4ZeKdrp7w

(00:13:01) INFO: [Backend]: Changed config: winePrefix from /home/borgrel/Games/Heroic/Prefixes/default to /media/games/heroic/prefixes/UFO Afterlight

(00:13:01) WARNING: [Backend]: Required prefix files are missing, running `verifyWinePrefix` to create prefix

(00:13:01) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Default Wine - Not Found

(00:13:01) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Default Wine - Not Found

(00:13:27) INFO: [Backend]: Writing config for 5uZZVugVErWuv4ZeKdrp7w

(00:13:27) INFO: [Backend]: Changed config: wineVersion from {"bin":"","name":"Default Wine - Not Found","type":"wine"} to {"bin":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/bin/wine","name":"Wine - Wine-GE-latest","type":"wine","lib":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/lib64","lib32":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/lib","wineserver":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/bin/wineserver"}

(00:13:27) WARNING: [Backend]: Required prefix files are missing, running `verifyWinePrefix` to create prefix

(00:13:27) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Wine - Wine-GE-latest

(00:13:27) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Wine - Wine-GE-latest

(00:13:27) DEBUG: [Backend]: Running Wine command: wineboot --init

(00:15:16) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Wine - Wine-GE-latest
(00:15:16) DEBUG: [Backend]: Running Wine command: /media/lavode/Images/UFO(GOG)/UFO - Afterlight/ENG/setup_ufo_afterlight_2.1.0.9.exe

(00:15:39) INFO: [Backend]: Writing config for 5uZZVugVErWuv4ZeKdrp7w

(00:15:39) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Wine - Wine-GE-latest

(00:15:39) DEBUG: [Backend]: Running Wine command: /media/lavode/Images/UFO(GOG)/UFO - Afterlight/ENG/setup_ufo_afterlight_2.1.0.9.exe

(00:16:11) INFO: [Backend]: Writing config for 5uZZVugVErWuv4ZeKdrp7w

(00:16:11) INFO: [Backend]: Changed config: wineVersion from {"bin":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/bin/wine","name":"Wine - Wine-GE-latest","type":"wine","lib":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/lib64","lib32":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/lib","wineserver":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/bin/wineserver"} to {"bin":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-Proton8-14/bin/wine","name":"Wine - Wine-GE-Proton8-14","type":"wine","lib":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-Proton8-14/lib64","lib32":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-Proton8-14/lib","wineserver":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-Proton8-14/bin/wineserver"}

(00:16:11) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Wine - Wine-GE-Proton8-14
(00:15:16) DEBUG: [Backend]: Running Wine command: /media/lavode/Images/UFO(GOG)/UFO - Afterlight/ENG/setup_ufo_afterlight_2.1.0.9.exe

(00:15:39) INFO: [Backend]: Writing config for 5uZZVugVErWuv4ZeKdrp7w

(00:15:39) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Wine - Wine-GE-latest

(00:15:39) DEBUG: [Backend]: Running Wine command: /media/lavode/Images/UFO(GOG)/UFO - Afterlight/ENG/setup_ufo_afterlight_2.1.0.9.exe

(00:16:11) INFO: [Backend]: Writing config for 5uZZVugVErWuv4ZeKdrp7w

(00:16:11) INFO: [Backend]: Changed config: wineVersion from {"bin":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/bin/wine","name":"Wine - Wine-GE-latest","type":"wine","lib":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/lib64","lib32":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/lib","wineserver":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-latest/bin/wineserver"} to {"bin":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-Proton8-14/bin/wine","name":"Wine - Wine-GE-Proton8-14","type":"wine","lib":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-Proton8-14/lib64","lib32":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-Proton8-14/lib","wineserver":"/home/borgrel/.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine/Wine-GE-Proton8-14/bin/wineserver"}

(00:16:11) INFO: [Backend]: Checking if wine version exists: Wine - Wine-GE-Proton8-14
@Linguin ok, so toggling the modals' drop down list and swapping between wine-GE-proton8-14 and wine-GE-latest caused the automatic download mono popup, so thats progress but after that finished, the installer still doesnt display a splash screen or anything else also, the fact that the log is saying no vulkan 1.1 is seriously dodge, i use DXVK in play on linux all the time
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
You have to install Nvidia drivers on flatpak as well If you use Nvidia
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
glurk! how?
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
flatpak install nvidia-535 And you might need the 32 bit one too
equal-aqua
equal-aqua2y ago
this should be automatic afaik
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Yeah But good to check
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
so will it show up on flatpak list if it is installed?
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Yes
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
nvidia-525-1… …m.GL.nvidia-525-105-17 1.4 flathub system
Mesa ….Platform.GL32.default 23.1.4 22.08 flathub system
nvidia-470-1… …GL32.nvidia-470-161-03 1.4 flathub system
nvidia-525-1… …GL32.nvidia-525-105-17 1.4 flathub system
nvidia-525-1… …m.GL.nvidia-525-105-17 1.4 flathub system
Mesa ….Platform.GL32.default 23.1.4 22.08 flathub system
nvidia-470-1… …GL32.nvidia-470-161-03 1.4 flathub system
nvidia-525-1… …GL32.nvidia-525-105-17 1.4 flathub system
hmm, thats wierd i am using 535 for system
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Get rid of the 470 driver lol Yeah other than the driver being a lil old it looks good
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
i hate how flatpak doesnt remove old when it updates
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Yeah it's Nvidia pains Idk how they are gonna fix it when Nvidia driver regresses 70 things every release 💀 You need the ability to download/keep the older ones
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
borgrel@BobblesPlaything:~$ flatpak install nvidia-535
Looking for matches…
Similar refs found for ‘nvidia-535’ in remote ‘flathub’ (system):

1) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-43-08/x86_64/1.4
2) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-86-10/x86_64/1.4
3) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-43-02/x86_64/1.4
4) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-98/x86_64/1.4
5) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-43-08/x86_64/1.4
6) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-54-03/x86_64/1.4
7) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-54-03/x86_64/1.4
8) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-86-05/x86_64/1.4
9) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-98/x86_64/1.4
10) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-104-05/x86_64/1.4
11) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-86-05/x86_64/1.4
12) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-86-10/x86_64/1.4
13) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-43-02/x86_64/1.4
14) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-104-05/x86_64/1.4

Which do you want to use (0 to abort)? [0-14]:
borgrel@BobblesPlaything:~$ flatpak install nvidia-535
Looking for matches…
Similar refs found for ‘nvidia-535’ in remote ‘flathub’ (system):

1) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-43-08/x86_64/1.4
2) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-86-10/x86_64/1.4
3) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-43-02/x86_64/1.4
4) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-98/x86_64/1.4
5) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-43-08/x86_64/1.4
6) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-54-03/x86_64/1.4
7) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-54-03/x86_64/1.4
8) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-86-05/x86_64/1.4
9) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-98/x86_64/1.4
10) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-104-05/x86_64/1.4
11) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-535-86-05/x86_64/1.4
12) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-86-10/x86_64/1.4
13) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-43-02/x86_64/1.4
14) runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-535-104-05/x86_64/1.4

Which do you want to use (0 to abort)? [0-14]:
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
You want 535-104
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
so 10 and 14
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Which is 14 and also GL32 which is 10 Ye
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
will flatpak remove --unused get rid of the nvidia 470 and 525?
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
No (that's the best part) :sunglase:
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
so if the nvidia drivers are not the problem, whats up with my heroic?
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
no idea It might be the 470 driver screwing things up
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
how to remove? i'm pretty sure 470 was still vulkan though
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Only vulkan 1.2 tho
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
sure, but the log check is 1.1
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Yeah because dxvk 1.10.3 uses 1.1 dxvk 2.2 which is far better than 1.10.3 needs vulkan 1.3
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
535 64bit is 75% d/l, u can do it!!! and then still 32bit to go 😦 how do i remove 470? since u cant get the app id with flatpak list
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
flatpak remove org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-470-161-03 All the Nvidia drivers follow that naming
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
its wierd that its only the 32bit drivers OK WTF!!! removing 470 does seem to have made a differance nvidia 470 was listed as in active use by heroic....... ... any idea where to delete the old versions of wine heroic picked up?
eastern-cyan
eastern-cyan2y ago
Should be in ~/.var/app Heroic app id Then .config And I think you will be able to find the rest
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
the ones i just installed (wine-GE-latest and wine-GE-proton-xxx) are there (~/.var/app/com.heroic.../config/heroic/tools/wine/) but the original 4 that were there BEFORE i installed any heroic versions of wine that u said are 5+ yrs old are not those 4 5+yr old versions are the ones that need removal, not the 2 i just installed
equal-aqua
equal-aqua2y ago
do you use Lutris? maybe that's the source of them, check the help dialog under wine version selector, there are exact paths where heroic looks for wine
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
i tried lutris a few times, but it really doesnt play well with pre-downloaded installers so i stopped if u mean library -> add game -> wine version ... i dont see a dialogue i dont see one in wine manager or settings either in settings -> general there is 'custom wine/proton paths' .... but that is empty
equal-aqua
equal-aqua2y ago
yes but under the wine version you got that little help button it shows all the paths heroic searches
vicious-gold
vicious-goldOP2y ago
... And my Linux just crapped out, will ping u when sorted

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