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metropolitan-bronze
Trouble Launching Games on Linux
I've been trying to get Abzu and A Short Hike to work.
Both games if I use Wine it says it is updating the configuration but it never gets past that. I even went to sleep and woke up and it was still there.
With Abzu, Heroic Games had detected my Steam experimental Proton and the game loads the splash screens display and there is a loading dot but the screen then goes black and I hear the sounds of the menu.
A Short Hike with proton has some windows that quickly flash and disappear in the top left corner but it doesn't load. I have been trying 8.15 through the Heroic Launcher as well.
Here is the latest log. Thank you for your time. This launcher is awesome!!
47 Replies
deep-jade•2y ago
show a game log from your attempted launch
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
I thought that is what I posted. If there is a better log please point me to it
deep-jade•2y ago
#:pushpin: Read Me First | Frequently Asked Questions see the game issue section
you provided a global Heroic log which is for the launcher itself, not a game's execution
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Whoops sorry about that, not sure how I messed that up. Going to do a fresh install and get a log for both Wine and Proton
I should probably note that I've gotten at least one game to load successfully (Super Fantasy Kingdom Demo) through their experimental version of Proton
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Wine 8-15:
robust-apricot•2y ago
https://github.com/lutris/docs/blob/master/WineDependencies.md
install dependencies from here?
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metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Okay downloading, thank you!
In the meantime this is the Proton 8-15 log:
robust-apricot•2y ago
oh, and then delete the prefix after you install those
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
What prefix are you referring to?
robust-apricot•2y ago
/home/m/Games/Heroic/Prefixes/default/A Short Hike
probably probably the rest of them that are crashing
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Okay thank you. I picked A Short Hike since it is small to use for testing so I can do all of that fresh as well
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Well it got farther! It got past the updating config part and started to load.
This is using Wine:
These Wine exception logs rarely help; send in a new game log
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Thank you for all your help with this
err: DxvkInstance::createInstance: Failed to create Vulkan 1.1 instance
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
I think there is a chance it doesn't. I'm not 100% sure but I've played A Short Hike on this computer on Windows 7
I'm not super familar with Vulkan but I do remember I had to force OpenGL with Halls Of Torment
Oh, this is a Quadro 2000 card
Yup those don't support Vulkan
You want to turn off DXVK in the game settings then
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Yeah it is pretty old. Thankfully the nvidia driver 390 actually worked on this one. On Xubuntu it booted into a black screen
Honestly on a card this old I'd just go with nouveau
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
The nvidia driver seems to work just fine. I'm on MX now
But the nouveau wasn't bad either, not much difference
By the way this launcher is so incredible, thank you so much for your hard work on it
Well, I was more referring to security. You're no longer getting updates with this driver, and the latest was almost a year ago
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
It works!! I had to disable the VKD3D on Prefix as well. Thank you so much for your help! And thank you for the heads up on the driver. I didn't realized a video card driver could be a security issue
robust-apricot•2y ago
hardware is a security issue trying to be solved by software
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Abzu isn't quite working 100% but at least it is showing something and seems to be responding.
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
A Short Hike was also Unity and this is Unreal
This is going to be a problem with a lot of games. WineD3D (what you're now using, instead of DXVK) isn't the most capable translation layer, but it's the only one that works
Actually, wonder if Lavapipe (a Vulkan implementation in software) might work, considering your CPU isn't that slow
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
All of this is awesome info. Just been on Nix again for a few days so I'm learning a lot.
I couldn't find Lavapipe specifically mentioned but I think this is the correct page. If not please let me know:
https://docs.mesa3d.org/drivers/llvmpipe.html#linux
silky-coral•2y ago
llvmpipe is the right one
I don't think it's good enough though
btw I would go for nouveau instead of the nvidia driver
if you go for nouveau you might be able to get some sort of vulkan support down the road
nvm this card has no hopes of getting any vulkan actually
I think you can buy a $20 amd gpu on ebay with vulkan 1.3 support
I think that's the better option rn
robust-apricot•2y ago
this is a roller coaster
Not sure how you'd go about installing this on Debian to be honest. These steps will probably work, but I don't know if that's the Debian intended way™️
silky-coral•2y ago
35 dollar rx 580 💀
https://www.ebay.com/itm/115918443093?hash=item1afd471255:g:b8kAAOSw5oRlB6W8&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4IY%2FIC3i3Jhiv7UFA0W8TN3X3FHbZ9432YAGrGkPs0QBjdB1KhJSMlfRKv%2FkNRxq8w0lqx31s7GthOpkmLuS5KnmXkOmpVQ8dhd60fisk%2BqlaUo%2BpC7djMFN%2FyykLX5wqQnfqyaOqm0jXuwpkrnn3sCe1lRQmTe86EMgpgwQA%2Bg8a8w%2B7UPzrXyc0c6ve%2FUpllSD8DDX2REEyENsmIy1xBgLdXTenzvqMqlaF9YIw5LkVWmX57YtteIbrzOGEH%2BA89qgDH7VWkrc4VYuS2KHrLGJ2thZUyCNLvjaTca4v%2BnD%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9DPlpvVYg
this GPU also supports vulkan 1.3: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-r9-285.c2609
(2014 card)
ignore what the website says, the windows drivers don't support vulkan 1.3
but linux is built different and does support 1.3
mainly because the drivers are not written by amd
damn AMD has 11 year old GPUs that can still take on vulkan 1.3 full force
that's incredible
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Yeah I got this computer used for 250 around 6 or so years ago so I'm not complaining!! I'm not opposed to putting in another GPU but so far it just seems games made in Unreal aren't working
I installed those llvmpipe drivers but didn't see a difference. Not sure if there is a launch command I'm supposed to use
silky-coral•2y ago
you have dxvk enabled right?
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Is that what I enable in the game settings in heroic? Because I've just been testing with various combos of them on and off
silky-coral•2y ago
yeah
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
I'll give it a whirl again.
do I need the nvapi and vkd3d as well?
silky-coral•2y ago
no keep those off
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Ah okay! Here goes nothing! I don't think I've tested it by itself
No dice sadly, the vkd3d gives me what looks like water. I find it fun to just test stuff and learn more about options
I saw that wine default 8.12 is now an option and tried it with everything unchecked for the heck of it and it loads to the menu!
I think it will start a new game too
It plays the game though is kind of choppy and goes in and out a bit. Turning on DXVK made it crash on boot
genetic-orange•2y ago
kind of a weird unfortunate thing about linux gaming is you need hardware and drivers that support vulkan, and preferrably newer vulkan implementations.. this becomes a problem with such old hardware, even if the windows build could run those games, because the linux translation layers are built on more modern tech so have somewhat newer requirements.
IMO the rx 580 suggestion is pretty good one if you have the cash.. otherwise yeah you are gonna fight to get some games running, or running at fps that is reasonable
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Thank you so much for the insight. I can't think of too many games built on Unreal that I want to play so that's good at least.
I think I'm limited by my motherboard as to what type of CPU I can use, is that correct? I forget exactly how it works. Maybe it just depends on the slot.
genetic-orange•2y ago
Motherboard limits what CPU ram and to an extent GPUs work best
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Oh whoops sorry I meant GPU not CPU xD
genetic-orange•2y ago
Motherboards don't limit it exactly, but depending on the PCIe spec, it may cause newer cards to under perform
Technically most modern motherboards will accept a pretty large range of GPUs. But they will perform at sub optimal levels
metropolitan-bronzeOP•2y ago
Interesting! I didn't know that. Been a bit since I've built a computer, like 10 something years xD
genetic-orange•2y ago
Pcie is backwards compatible
So you should be able to use cards meant for pcie 3 in a 2 slot or a 4 in a 3. But cards intended for bigger versions of pcie will be data starved in an older slot
Fwiw each iteration of PCI generally doubles the speed of individual lanes. So a 16x pcie3 slot has twice the bandwidth of a 16x pcie 2 slot.
Its also been this way since the early 2000s