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Official Fedora image build times:

Official Fedora image build times:

Silverblue - 8:29 AM UTC (latest)
Kinoite - 7:58 AM UTC (latest)
Sericea - 8:29 AM UTC (latest)

We build main at 7 AM UTC. @bsherman doesn't this mean we only need to push things back 2 hours?

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:15 AM

let's double and triple check this

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:16 AM

Yeah... On second though these times look inline with MST for me. Rawhide says 13 hours ago, tag says it was pushed at 7:01 AM. It's 8 PM here

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:18 AM

So assuming those are right - that means 2:29 PM UTC is the latest an image is pushed. So we'd build main at 3 PM UTC

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:18 AM

so, i'm looking at the tag history tab on quay...

sericea, at least as of now, is always building last of those 3, so lets ignore the others and just look at it

https://quay.io/repository/fedora/fedora-sericea?tab=history

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bsherman•11/1/23, 2:19 AM

here we can see when the 3939 tag was applied to the image each day, which is the last stage of image publishing

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:19 AM

going back to Oct 13... the time varies, but the latest is 9:29 AM

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:20 AM

CST. Mine says 8:29

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:20 AM

ok, good, we are looking at the same thing and now we know the webpage shows viewer's local time

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:20 AM

So it is the current TZ set by the system and not UTC

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:20 AM

yep

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:21 AM

so, i'm currently UTC-5 ... so that 9:29AM is really 14:29

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:21 AM

2:29PM

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:21 AM

Yep

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:21 AM

ok, so for purposes of this investigation, you good with moving to 24 hour time and UTC only?

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:22 AM

Yeah

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:22 AM

Working in our current TZs won't get us anywhere lol

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:22 AM

cool, so our latest known build time is 14:29 for official upstream

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:23 AM

and... the QA builds, fedora-ostree-desktops, are pretty much 12 hours before/after that

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:23 AM

Yeah. It's like 3 or 4 AM UTC

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:23 AM

so which is "first"

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:24 AM

Heh, that is the question

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:24 AM

so lets look at these

https://quay.io/organization/fedora-ostree-desktops

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:25 AM

Latest I see is Onyx at 4:10 AM

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:25 AM

yea, but... "yesterday"

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:25 AM

Oh yup true

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:26 AM

Sericea at 2:22 AM, but official images cover that

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:26 AM

Base@2:14

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:27 AM

ok, i'm switching to local time for a moment.

lets just talk kinoite:
fedora/fedora-silverblue, built at 7:10AM for you today
fedora-ostree-desktops/kinoite, build at 7:47PM for you today

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:27 AM

right?

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:27 AM

Yep

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:29 AM

ok... so that's
official kinoite at 1310
qa kinoite at 0147 (tomorrow)

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:29 AM

right?

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:29 AM

Yeah

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:30 AM

to me, this says we need to pick a target... either relatively close to the official builds, or closer to the QA builds... and hope for the best

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:30 AM

and of course, I'd push for the offiicial

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:31 AM

so, if we say, 1430 is our current latest known official build time

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:31 AM

... how far beyond that do we want to wait? 1 hour 1.5 hours?

j0rge•11/1/23, 2:32 AM

start with 1 and see what happens?

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:32 AM

Do we need an hour since 2:29 has been the absolute worst case so far? Would shooting for 30 minutes after work?

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:32 AM

oh crap

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:32 AM

all our config/akmods stuff builds against

base

base

no?

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:33 AM

Let me check

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:33 AM

config is fedora:latest... it doesn't care

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:33 AM

FROM registry.fedoraproject.org/fedora:latest AS builder

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:33 AM

Yyp

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:34 AM

but akmods is building off fedora-ostree-desktops/base

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:34 AM

i think that needs to change to match official

bsherman•11/1/23, 2:34 AM

i mean, i'm not sure what happens if official silverblue/kinoite/sericea don't match

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:34 AM

Build from official Silverblue?

EyeCantCUOP•11/1/23, 2:34 AM

Ope yup

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