Converting int to double to output with decimals

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

Hello again! i got a little problem with converting int to double, i dont get it to output the decimals and i dont know where i do wrong ^^ Any tips?

  public static void Main (string[] args) 
    {
        double celsius = 0;
        int fahr;
        
        do
        {
            /*
            +---------------------------+
            | Here i input the integer! |
            +---------------------------+
            */
            Console.WriteLine("Write temp in fahrenheit: ");
            fahr = int.Parse(Console.ReadLine());

            celsius = FahrToCels(fahr);

            Console.WriteLine("Your value in Celsius: " + celsius);
            if (celsius < 82)
            {
                Console.WriteLine("Too Cold!");
            }
            else if (celsius > 87)
            {
                Console.WriteLine("Too Hot!");
            }
        } while (celsius < 82 || celsius > 87);
        Console.WriteLine("Temp is ok! Enjoy!");
                
                /*
            +-------------------------------------+
            | Here i want to output with decimals |
            +-------------------------------------+
            */
        Console.WriteLine("Fahrenheit: " + fahr);
        Console.WriteLine("Celsius: " + celsius + "\n");
    }

    /*
    +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
    | Here i want to convert integer to double to output with decimals in code above |
    +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
    */
    public static double FahrToCels(int fahr)
    {
        double cel = (fahr - 32) * 5 / 9;
        return cel;
    }

  public static void Main (string[] args) 
    {
        double celsius = 0;
        int fahr;
        
        do
        {
            /*
            +---------------------------+
            | Here i input the integer! |
            +---------------------------+
            */
            Console.WriteLine("Write temp in fahrenheit: ");
            fahr = int.Parse(Console.ReadLine());

            celsius = FahrToCels(fahr);

            Console.WriteLine("Your value in Celsius: " + celsius);
            if (celsius < 82)
            {
                Console.WriteLine("Too Cold!");
            }
            else if (celsius > 87)
            {
                Console.WriteLine("Too Hot!");
            }
        } while (celsius < 82 || celsius > 87);
        Console.WriteLine("Temp is ok! Enjoy!");
                
                /*
            +-------------------------------------+
            | Here i want to output with decimals |
            +-------------------------------------+
            */
        Console.WriteLine("Fahrenheit: " + fahr);
        Console.WriteLine("Celsius: " + celsius + "\n");
    }

    /*
    +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
    | Here i want to convert integer to double to output with decimals in code above |
    +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
    */
    public static double FahrToCels(int fahr)
    {
        double cel = (fahr - 32) * 5 / 9;
        return cel;
    }

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

what is ur expection and what is ur result? nvm, i spotted the problem double cel = (fahr - 32) * 5 / 9; there it is (fahr - 32) * 5 / 9 <-- all parts of this are integers, thus u get integer divison

MMODiX

11/18/2023

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

integer division truncates the stuff after the . to turn it into floating point division (either float or double) one of the values has to be a floating point number type u can either use double notation (eg 1.5), or float notation (1.5f), or cast to double or float (double)fahr or (float)fahr) each of these will force the floating point division with doubles ((double)fahr - 32) * 5 / 9 (fahr - 32.0) * 5 / 9 (fahr - 32) * 5.0 / 9 (fahr - 32) * 5 / 9.0

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

Ohh, so i just need to put .0 after one of them and its fixed?

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

yep because that will change the type of the value

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

Ahh, stupid me -.- didnt even think of that.... 🤣 yea, now i get it.. haha, i've been staring me blind on the int argument and double ^^ thank you soooo much! 🙏

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

but be aware that its more than just adding a .0 anywhere 2 / 5 * 2.0 will result in 0 2.0 / 5 * 2 will result in 0.8

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

so, if i add it to the first one it will result in 0 and the last one in 0.8? or it depens on what numbers i have?

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

no it depends on where the division is 2 / 5 * 2.0 this is basically (2 / 5) (which results in 0) mulitplied by 2.0 because of int division

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

so in my code, this is right

double cel = (fahr - 32) * 5 / 9.0;

double cel = (fahr - 32) * 5 / 9.0;

And it looks like this:

double cel = (fahr - 32) / 5 * 9.0;

double cel = (fahr - 32) / 5 * 9.0;

it would be messed up? Or its just me that dont understand? ^^ im not really good at math tho..

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

naaah, thats messed up the point is, for the division part of ur formula there it depends on the data types (int or double) let me explain on this one: 2 / 5 * 2.0 u know that in math its "point calculation before line calculation" right? as in multiplication and division have priority over addition and substraction

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

like, the first thing u calculate is inside ( ) then, i think * then / or the other way around..

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

as in 2 + 3 * 4 = 14

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

yea, there u start with 3 * 4 then + 2

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

yep the ( ) have higher priority, so (2 + 3) * 4 = 20

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

exactly so to get the double decimals right i always put the .0 somewhere after the division?

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

and now 1 * 2 / 3, all have the same priority for the calculation so it goes from left to right

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

yea,

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

the computer will first compute 1 * 2 and then will calculate 2 / 3 so 2 / 5 * 2.0 is the same as (2 / 5) * 2.0 at 2 / 5 both values are integers, thus it uses integer division which results in 0, then it calculates 0 * 2.0, which is still 0 so to get rid of the integer division u have to change the type of either 2 or 5 in this example to get the expected 0.4 as result

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

oh, so if i understad this right, i have to put the .0 in eighter the first number of the division or the last? as long as it is a number that is dividing?

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

basically, ignore the numbers and just think about the types int / int * double -> (int / int) * double int / int (aka integer division) always results in another int to get a floating point result u have to have (at least) one of these as floating point type (i gonna smoke quick, brb, ~4-5min)

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

yea, no problem, just trying to figure out this 😅 i feel so stupid because i dont understand 😵‍💫 is it the last thing thats get calculated that's supposed to have the decimal?

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

back

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

welcome back 🙂

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

well, its really about the datatypes not the actual values as soon as u have int / int it will result in an int without the decimals taking (fahr - 32) * 5 / 9.0 as example thats ((fahr - 32) * 5) / 9.0 resolving that purely on data type: ((int - int) * int) / dobule (int * int) / double int / double because not both are ints at the division point, u get a double result at the end try to replace it like i did with these two 2 / 5 * 2.0 2.0 / 5 * 2 (do the first completely before starting the second)

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

oh, so u calculate the integers first and lastly add the decimal to get decimal value?

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

in ur mind basically do it in 3 steps: 1) set parenthesis to visualize which will be computed first 2) replace all values with their types 3) resolve the resulting data type if u have an integer type and a floating point type, no matter which mathematical operation u do, it will always end up with the floating point type for 2 / 5 * 2.0 yes because its going from left to right do that step by step for 2 / 5 * 2.0 if u dont know, just guess. if there is a mistake ill explain u what was wrong on that step

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

2.0 / 5 * 2 = 0.8 and 2 / 5 * 2.0 = 0

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

yep (not sure if u understood it, or if u scrolled up xD)

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

no actually i entered both in cisual studio and tried by them self ^^

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

so, did u understand it or not?

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

2 / 5 does result in a decimal value but the console is saying 0, and i guess thats becaus i dont have a decimal on either of them, so i get that decimal value from the 3rd? or im totaly out of grid.. feels like im talking values again -.- xD damn, i feel so stupid xD

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

well, in normal real life what is 2 / 5?

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

0.4 less than 0.5 so it gets 0

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

and because its integer division u have to truncate the decimals, so 0.4 becomes what? NO, not rounding, truncating! it will be just removed

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

oh🙄

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

do u remember elementary school division? "the result is <blah> with a reminder of <blah2>" integer division is just that, it calculates <blah>

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

hm, i think i need to read about math a little more... actually i dont remember.. so im gonna look it up and read.. damn, i feel so stupid... my memory sucks atm.. sorry for wasting your time by not fully understanding.. ^^

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

you have 5 apples and u want to give 2 people equally apples, how many apples does each one have?

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

i have to split them oh 2 each

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

u dont have a knife, u cant split them yep thats integer division

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

Ahh okay 😅 that one i understood xD i bet ur laughing you ass off right now 🤣

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

i dont laugh at you! its okay to not know/understand something. u try to change that, so u have my respect 😉

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

its okay if u do, because i did xD Thanks🙏 i really appriciate that, and your help! 🙏

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

so, did it help or do u still have questions (btw trust me, the more u learn, the more u learn that u dont understand sh_t :'D)

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

it helped with the integer division, but the double thing, if i only have integers and division is involved i add .0 in the division part? haha thats true xD and the more i learn, the more i learn i dont understand and learn so i understand more xD

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

u have to make one of the division values a float/double, as soon as that happens u got ur knife and can slice through them all well, having a knife is basically the wrong metaphor. imagine u dont have "full" apples, but incredibly thin sliced apples

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

ahh so, if i got i right, whatever integers i have that gets divided, i add .0 to eighter one of the division values to get the float/double value? thats how i understood it ^^

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

yep thats also not just a division thing 1 + 2.0 makes it a double as well basically no matter if addition, substraction, multiplication or division, as soon as a floating point value is involved, the result will be of that type thats quite easy to explain looking at byte and int

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

Okay then i understand the integer division part 🙏 and 1 + 2.0 is the same as 1.0 + 2? or its the highest value that gets the decimal?

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

it doesnt matter which of the both it is, its a matter of if any of it is that part is easier explainable with int and byte

byte a = 1;
int b = 255;
var c = a + b;

byte a = 1;
int b = 255;
var c = a + b;

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

so its basically division thats the part i have to look out for?

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

yeah integer division can f_ck up ur math if u have floats/doubles involved its a precision thingy, if 2 different number types are involved, the higher precision takes place

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

ohh, okay, i think i got it now then 😃 Damn, need same explenation as a 6 year old xD yea, with the understanding i have now i get that the division is the big bully in math ^^

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

c is here an int, because its an byte (0-255) and an int (-2b to 2b roughly) its not directly math, its about the different types an integer simply cant represent 1/2 so u need to somehow "upgrade" the data type, so its representable. and that u do by making one of the operands that upgraded data type ciggy time ;p

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

integers are integers, they dont have anything to do with the decimals until the division gets there, so its possible to add the decimal to whatever integer i want as long as division's not there? ^^

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

it depends on the result u want

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

if i want decimal result i add .0 and if i dont i dont add it? ^^

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

if u want sliced apples, slice one apple before dividing them if u only want "complete" apples, dont slice them slicing = converting to float/double okay, time for an excercise! 3 / 2 * 2.0, whats the result?

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

and thats where .0 comes in to play, i add it where ever the result of eighter calculation gets decimal outcome? 2 because the .0 is not on the first 3 or 2 ?

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

to be correct, the result would be actually 2.0 in a sense, because its not an integer anymore, right? because both 3 and 2 are integers, yes there are 3 variants to make 3 / 2 * 2.0 result in 3.0 which are they? (write the whole formula)

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

oh, my adhd-brain is spinning too much right now xD

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

dont worry im stubborn ;p just in words, what would u have to change to make it result in 3.0? (u can write the formulas instead ofc)

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

haha i actually dont know xD one is over after dividing 3 by to, then 1 * 3 is 3 3 by 2 haha i need to take a little break atm, wifey is kind of hangry too so i have to get her to get food xD but i'll let u know when im back and we can keep going if u want ^^

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

uhmmm , its quite late for me can we continue this in 6h or later? i sorta want to sleep xD

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

absolutely xD we can do a little tomorrow if u want to ^^ thanks for all the help! i really appriciate it! 🙏

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

well, u can continue without me, maybe someone else will step in worst case u write some stuff and i will react to it after i woke up 😉

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

hahaha yea xD

Ccap5lut

11/18/2023

and greet ur wife from that drunkard stranger on discord 😂

XXLnTz

11/18/2023

Hahaha, yea, i will xD well, gotta go, thanks again for all the help! 🙏

JJP

11/19/2023

I think ya'll landed in a good spot! I tried my hand at writing up the rules here https://gist.github.com/John-Paul-R/40ef1b86a376f2838a3fa6fdab9c7cc7 Might be helpful, might not. Use it if its useful!

Ccap5lut

11/19/2023

didnt even know about the d prefix for doubles 😂 but i think for a generic explanation its too much about actual values. as intro to describe the problem, yes but its for example missing promotions like byte to int or float to double (basically in the same numberic system, just different precision) (the whole thing sorta sounds like its just about integers vs floating points) but generally speaking its a good start and now i really hit the sack >.<

JJP

11/19/2023

yeah for the list of promotions, I tossed in an article describes all of them, figured I'd spare rewriting the thing, got long enough already, yknow?

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