Sport coats with J Crew chinos?

Derek Guy seems pretty down on wearing a sports coat with what he called knockaround chinos, like you'd get from J Crew, Ralph Lauren, and the like. But are there are any sports coats that could work with these more casual styles of chinos and not strictly the Rota's of the fashion world?
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raisinpie
raisinpieβ€’4mo ago
Yes there are lots that can work. They just need to be more casual versions.
Bigelow
Bigelowβ€’4mo ago
First of all, J Crew and RL make a lot of different types of chinos. Instead of categorizing chinos by brand, instead look to design details that would 1) make chinos more casual vs dressy (e.g., visible vs hidden side seams) and 2) make chinos less or more cohesive with a tailored jacket (e.g., higher rise vs lower rise, pleated vs flat front, straight silhouette vs tapered) Second of all, if you can wear jeans or fatigues with sport coats, you can definitely wear chinos, even "knockaround" ones (don't really know what that means but I'm guessing it means less dressy chinos) basically avoid slim tapered chinos and go for higher rise, pleated, straight leg / wide leg ones and you should be good. eye test is always better than theory so post fits for feedback in #styling-suggestions or #questions-and-advice if you want more detailed feedback
Red Mantis
Red Mantisβ€’4mo ago
I get that fabrics can make a jacket more casual, but are there specific style/cuts of jacket to look for?
artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingβ€’4mo ago
seconding the eye test the cardinal rule of getting dressed
Red Mantis
Red Mantisβ€’4mo ago
Thanks, that's helpful advice to use looking for chinos. And yeah, he meant more casual; his take was the "right" chinos were basically identical to wool dress trousers but made of cotton. Also single seamed instead of double-seamed and puckered (as he called it). Yeah, I think my fashion eyesight needs glasses. I'll post pics when I work up the nerve.
Bigelow
Bigelowβ€’4mo ago
I mean, yes and no. If you want to wear dressy chinos in a really trad outfit then yeah hidden side seams is probably the way to go. But you can totally wear a blazer or sport coat with workwear / non dressy pants and look sick af doing it, as shown here
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Bigelow
Bigelowβ€’4mo ago
the main important factors that make these work are a high rise and a wider straight leg. this fit wouldn't look as good if they were slim, tapered, low rise pants
Red Mantis
Red Mantisβ€’4mo ago
I was thinking of something along those lines, but with a more textured jacket.
Bigelow
Bigelowβ€’4mo ago
as long as it's a sport coat or blazer and not an orphaned suit jacket, it should work like that fit would look great with a gray glen check tweed or a brown herringbone
Red Mantis
Red Mantisβ€’4mo ago
A tweed or herringbone is what I was thinking, I have the chinos already.
Red Mantis
Red Mantisβ€’4mo ago
This is the kind of jacket I had in mind
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Bigelow
Bigelowβ€’4mo ago
yeah that should work with high rise straight/wide chinos. what chinos are they?
Red Mantis
Red Mantisβ€’4mo ago
Abercrombie & Fitch 90s classic and J Crew 770
Red Mantis
Red Mantisβ€’4mo ago
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Red Mantis
Red Mantisβ€’4mo ago
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jfarrell468
jfarrell468β€’4mo ago
I have the 770s and I find them too skinny to look good with a blazer Pretty sure the giant fit chinos would look a lot better
Red Mantis
Red Mantisβ€’4mo ago
Something like this for example Oh sorry, these are the classic fit not the 770s. I don't do anything slim really. At long last the pants I like are back in style! And yeah, I plan on picking up the giants too.
Bigelow
Bigelowβ€’4mo ago
Both of those chinos look unfortunately low rise and more tapered than I prefer Giant chinos would probably work great though Or, this server's meme chinos, Polo Ralph Lauren Andrews on ebay
zeometer
zeometerβ€’4mo ago
the classic fit chino would be a good fit if you can't fnd the giants they're only about 1-2" narrower of a leg opening
Red Mantis
Red Mantisβ€’4mo ago
Ah gotcha. Well, like I said, I'll be picking up Giants anyway.
Bigelow
Bigelowβ€’4mo ago
They're not terrible but 1-2" makes a big difference in leg opening and the rise on them also looks a bit short to wear with a tailored jacket I personally wouldn't do it but I'm kinda picky
zeometer
zeometerβ€’4mo ago
true
Carson 🌞
Carson πŸŒžβ€’4mo ago
That looks so good