corrupted SD card, need to migrate immich settings to SSD
It´s been a year since I´ve been running Immich on my Raspberry pi 4B without any problems. OS on an SD card and all the data set to save on an external HDD via USB. Last update I reboot everything and SD card appears to be corrupt so raspberry pi wont boot. Bought an SSD and am planning to clone everything directly but some OS files are corrupt. I have an image of the SD card with all data in it but I dont know how to proceed to copy all Portainer (where i had immich) to the new SSD. Would highly appreciate help, because if not I would just have to duplicate everything and it´d be a mess with my IT knowledge. Thank you
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Successfully submitted, a tag has been added to inform contributors. :white_check_mark:Anyone willing to help out a noob? I just need to know which folder to copy and paste to the new install so i can maintain all my docker settings and installation files
the data is in the folders specified by UPLOAD_LOCATION and DB_DATA_LOCATION in the .env file
there is builtin database backups, which are stored in the backups folder of UPLOAD_LOCATION, which you can restore if that's all you have
Oh i have the data, since i stored it on another drive, but i was wondering if i could restore all immich settings on docker portainer such as users albums etc. Which i had installed on the sd card
Thank you for taking the time to help btw @Zeus
Really appreciate it
This shows you how to restore the database
If im understanding, the database is where data is stored, which in my case was an external hdd that i conserve with all data in it. What im missing and trying to recover is the immich installation files (portainer) with all the settings i had set, users, shared albums etc.
I understand these settings were not in the database, they were stored on my sd card, right?
Users, albums, and such are all stored in the database. Nothing other than probably the docker images was on the SD card. If you follow Zeus link and restore the DB you should be all set.
So if i do a fresh install, install docker and set a container with immich, all fresh and new, i connect the database and follow the link, i should be same as before?
That I am not sure of. Zeus may know if you can point at the DB directory vs needing to restore an actual backup
I think you should restore a DB backup. Especially if there was corruption of any kind, even on a different device
Thank you guys. I'll try to follow the link instructions
hi again, im trying to follow instructions to restore my previous immich settings, yet instructions are only on docker compose. I have everything set on portainer. Could i get some help to do the same but on portainer/docker?
I know this is very demanding on my side, but would really like to proceed with the restore with someone monitoring so i dont lose all my files on the database hdd, im, not sure if by redoing all the process, i can overwrite my existing files. Just let me know if this is viable or not, i wont risk it by myself @schuhbacca @Zeus
the problem here is that i do not have any backups, my backup folder is empty. I have all the rest of the folders,Encoded video, Library, Profile, thumbs and upload all full of my data and just as it was before my SD with the OS corrupted
so i have no backup file to pull everything and follow the instructions
If your backups folder is empty then you don’t have many options. You should make a copy of your current DB_DATA_LOCATION for safety then try starting a new immich, pointed to that same DB_DATA_LOCATION
i just did that, fresh immich pointing to data location, and pointing to upload (all my hdd) and it just starts fresh.
recognises how theres 130gb of data
but it makes me create a new acc and nothing on it
i tried loging in with one of my old users but it wont recognise it
Take some screenshots of your configuration. Share you .env or whatever you're using to set these thing in portainer, as well as what the directory structure looks like.
sure!
this time i tried with a regular docker install, not via portainer
For config that is text (like .env, you can send it between: ```
i can send screenshots ov my docker compose and my env
And ```
env
this is my HDD with all the folders from old install
i can upload more info if needed
@Zeus I'm guessing the issue is that db data is set to the same as upload
I can't help much rn because I've got some stuff I gotta do, but basically, you should NOT have those the same @Gonza
should i change UPLOAD_LOCATION to /mnt/Skyhawk/upload?
or what am i supposed to do
don't change anything yet
stop immich first
I can wait. Honestly i just want to restore what i had. if you can help tomorrow at any time i can get online whenever
then
ls /mnt/Skyhawk/uploadimmich is not running
Sorry am out with the spouse this evening but leave lots of info about your setup here and someone will give some info
We can only reply based on what’s shown to us
i can upload all the info you need, im just not aware of what can be helpful and what cant
Did you have storage template enabled?
If you don't know then ls library and if you see a bunch of stuff then the answer is yes
guess not
But I think the solution will be to move everything in
/mnt/Skyhawk into a subdirectory such as /mnt/Skyhawk/immich/storage or /mnt/Skyhawk/immichStorage
Then you might have to import everything because afaict there's no database.
This looks like storage template enabled.sounds complex
i dont want to take up your time if youre busy
but would appreciate steps
on how to do so
I'll try and help you later.
okay. its 3am where i live
Get some sleep.
if you can, just leave steps here whenever youre free and ill check them out tomorrow
never good to mess with important data late at night.
agreed, but since i was getting your help i didnt want to let this opportunity go
i depend on help cause my knowledge doesnt get me anywhere
😅
Let me know when you're available @Nicholas Flamy
I appreciate that you're concerned with what's happened, but if you aren't able to recover from a failure like this on your own, you probably shouldn't be running Immich. If you don't understand how to take backups and restore them, you're going to end up losing all your data
What happened to your SD card could happen to your hard drive too, whether it's hardware failure or otherwise
Hi Zack, I understand your vision on this situation. I like to improve and continue learning on things I like over time, this is one of them in particular, personal projects related to technology. All the important data I have on my hard drive is backed up on another hard drive I have, so realistically if my main hard drive dies, I'll always keep my photos and videos safe. The only part I do not have secured is my OS and all Immich settings, and by having these situations I continue learning about how Immich and many other programs work, including Linux itself. I understand that by not being able to solve these issues myself, I'm asking here for help and therefore learning thanks to somebody's time, because I wouldn't be able to do so on my own. If that's the issue, I fully understand, and can move onto something easier or not reliant on people's time. Otherwise, I'd like to continue updating my immich and overcoming problems like this one, knowing that the worst case scenario, my photos and videos are safe on another hdd and having the possibility to migrate them to another easier platform.
That's fair enough. At least you have backups of the main data. For future, don't store the database on an SD card and ensure you have backups of it. With regards to seeking help, that is fine, that's what these threads are ultimately for. All I would say is don't go pinging people who have been helping you so far. They will see alerts from the messages in the thread if they are still subscribed to the thread anyway, but if they've chosen to stop assisting a ping will pull them right back in 🙂
In this case, if you didn't have the database stored on the hard drives, and don't have database backups, there's not much that can be done. You will realistically have to setup Immich again with new users and re-import the pictures from the hard drive
Great! My intention wasn't to pull anyone in, just to let them know my evolution on the issue. This noted, I won't continue pinging anyone😅
Ill proceed to create a folder on the hdd for the database and import all the photos manually. One last detail, I do have a .img file of the SD that corrupted with all the data in it before I wiped it clean. Is there any way of retrieving the old DB from it?
Maybe.
You might be able to mount it.
Look up how to mount .img linux
by the way, I'd like to thank Zeus, Nicholas Flamy and Zack on your time and help with this case (not pinging)😁
Make sure you do this.
If the HDD is ONLY for immich
Then
It is only for immich
Just make immichStorage and immichDB
Otherwise, make a dir immich
And make dirs inside of it
It is just for immich, so i can create a db dir and an upload dir. and move all the folders it has to the upload dir. Correct?
and point the db to the db dir
if im understanding correctly
Yes.
But for the upload dir
Call it something like data or storage because otherwise you'll get it mixed up with the upload dir inside of it.
i named it UPLOAD in all caps to not get it mixed
maybe i will get it mixed up anyway
Let me know how you plan to move the folders into it.
just by sudo mv upload /UPLOAD/upload
im trying to mount the .img file and see if i can recover the db from there
Alright.
not the most efficient way probably
Make sure you move the other dirs the same way.
This is probably the best way.
done, yep
all dirs moved
Since theoretically, it won't read, then rewrite the data, instead just change the pointers.
i have a question
on my hdd i have /UPLOAD (dir where i moved all the folders) and inside/UPLOAD there's the upload dir (the one immich creates
on the .env i should point the upload to /UPLOAD, or to /UPLOAD/upload
now i see why the UPLOAD name wasnt the brightest idea
Yeah
Point to /UPLOAD
good, thx
all set. Im flashing the .img to an sd card, and then will proceed to mount it to my existing OS. Where can i look for the database?
is there a default place where it creates
?
or just get my explorer goggles on
Do you have the original docker compose file and env file?
i have the original docker compose
not the .env
but i had it all installed in portainer, which was running on the OS, so maybe the stack.env file is in the portainer files?
Idk portainer so I can't answer that.
okay
ill look into it
if no luck, how should i import all the photos and videos into a new immich install?
This will probably be the way to go.
If you can't find the env and from that where the db is, then this.
i assume there is no way of making the fresh install just read the info from the already existing folders
okay, does this look like the db ?
Nope, that is typesense which is very old 😛
😅
ill keep looking
My db folder.
great, thx!
no luck searching for db. im looking at instructions on immich cli but im not familiar with the api part. when configuring it , requires to modify the api key. What am I supposed to set there?
and another observation, i created a fresh docker with immich, yet the DB_DATA location where database is supposed to be saved, hasnt populated yet
no folders or files in the dir
Where did you get this file?
Are you on a modded Discord client?
If so, your message to file plugin is broken.
(I tried to view it on Android as well.)
One thing I noticed is that your docker compose has postgres hard set as a docker volume rather than a mount.
I normally save my docker-compose.yml file from the last update and i just copied and pasted it to discord from the txt file on my windows pc. I think i just copied and pasted and messed up the format
i believe in portainer, postgres is a volume itself. But dont take my word on it, not too sure
That's where your db went.
this is the text file i tried to send
im lost rn
That came clean.
this is where my db was?
i have the whole .img of the SD where it all was running.
Yes, the pgdata docker volume. I don't know where the actual data for docker volumes is stored but you would have to look there.
Ill keep trying tomorrow. Thanks again for all the help. maybe i can find the data on the .img of my old os
Okay, i think i got it
i found the old database in a docker volume
let me add a photo of what that looks taking this into account
its taking long to copy the whole folder
not sure if thats normal
Let me know before you try to start immich again.
yep, it got stuck copying the folder
let me show you
should be the immich_pgdata right?
I think so
damn. cant believe it
still nothing tho 😂
You'll need to update your docker compose to match the official docker compose:
https://github.com/immich-app/immich/blob/main/docker/docker-compose.yml#L66
if i get the database i think im going to cry
its taking forever to copy the folder
i think my raspberry is overloading to copy this folder
there's no way i can do this from a windows machine, right?
You would have to look it up.
its on it
500 files out of 1600
ill just wait
It's still progressing right?
yep
Then just leave it and do something else and come back to it.
its on it, yep
Probably the best bet.
will do!
doesnt look good
could this be because of data corruption?
potentially, yes
let me try from windows
how much bad luck do i need to have exactly my db files corrupted
okay
i have it
i have the whole folder
does this look correct?
Yeah, my main worry would be symlinks.
I don't know if there are any in the db folders though
dont know what symlinks are
similar to windows shortcuts
okay
um
i could just copy the whole docker folder
right?
I don’t think Postgres uses symlinks at all
explain...
well, since i now have access to the whole broken OS
i could copy the entire docker folder
containing volumes, and everything else
Sure, copy it to your Windows PC in case there's something you need later on.
But
Don't copy it to your RPi4 and overwrite docker.
okay
If there's corrupt files, that won't be fun.
right
okay
so now i have the database folder, how should i proceed?
copy it to where you specified in your .env
But before you start immich, maybe download the latest official docker compose file and then if there's anything you need to change (so HW Accel Transcoding or Machine Learning)
okay
between testing and all, i deleted my SD card so im preparing a fresh install of rasp OS
Do not specify storage in the docker compose, the default compose file specifies environment variables as storage locations and those can be set in the .env
all fresh and new
do you recommend docker or portainer for immich installation setup?
docker
okay
yep, just give me a sec. still installing os on SD
okay
do i need hwaccel and ml?
You didn't have it before so dw about it.
okay
got the docker compose and the -env file
thats wher im at
nvm immich currently has no RPi HW Transcode support anyway.
So no.
okay
do i follow steps normally?
populate .env
as per usual
These values should mostly be fine.
Except
the storage
but we've already been over that
yes
but wait
now i have two folders in my hdd
DB_DATA
and UPLOAD
so i should point the upload location to UPLOAD
and data location to DB_DATA
correct?
yes
okay
done
i need to transfer the pgdata folder i have on my windows pc to the DB_DATA on the hdd right?
yes, before starting immich
okay
scp?
let me look up the command to do it right
via ssh
on it, transferring the folder (2gb)
umm
the db folder is 2gb?
yep
done
1.13gb mb
gb mb?
oh
"my bad"
yea
sry
now just boot immich docker?
btw, should i be pointing on .env to my DB_DATA folder on hdd or to immich_pgdata inside DB_DATA folder?
Yeah, I was going to ask about that.
It seems you copied immich_pgdata into DB_DATA rather than the contents of immich_pgdata into DB_DATA
so, do the latter
okay
ill change -env
also, you may need to change permissions
and with the UPLOAD?
to the directory containing library, thumbs etc
yes
.env looking like this
just to confirm
seems fine
cool
now just standard docker start?
or docker compose up
what it tells you here
yea, just wanted to confirm no other steps before just going ahead
okay
forgot to install docker
cool
on it, yep
For Debian-based I usually do everything visible in this screenshot.
i assume raspberry pi os is debian based
pretty sure, yes
never installed docker desktop
where it says add the repository to apt sources, where am i supposed to run that?
im doing line by line on command terminal
maybe im noobing this out
docker or docker desktop?
docker desktop
docker is the container system, docker desktop is the proprietary GUI app that sets everything up for you.
yep, never did desktop
had portainer, which i imagine is similar
Ehh, not so much.
im lost in the instructions right now
Docker desktop doesn't have much config editing.
(I think some is paywalled.)
currently following your screenshot
on the web
im running line by line on the terminal
am i correct?
not sure if i have to make a dir for all this
or a file
Line by line:
At once:
Last:
sry im making you go through all this 😅
all done now
If you don't wanna run sudo to run docker:
https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/linux-postinstall/#manage-docker-as-a-non-root-user
now i can just docker compose up -d right?
done
ummm
should i reboot?
-bash: docker: command not found
are you sshed?
yep
ia m
close it and reopen it
nope
stil not found
did i miss something?
This?
correct
head is exploding
4am here
and i feel like you must be hating me rn
i would if i were you, so all good
Dude, no one is hating anyone here.
okay
just letting you know i really appreciate all your help
If I was hating I wouldn't still be helping lol.
Thank you
okay
now up
docker up
it should load all my old data directly?
or should i set up something in order for it to work?
We hope. 🤞
okay
still pulling images
one sec
i should now just try log in as if nothing happened?
yes
moment of truth
🤞
after all this im going to need to study hard how to make backups on my hdd and on the ssd with raspOS
Yeah.
okay, all started
nothing on port 8863 yet
2283*
This is just DB
It backs up to a folder in UPLOAD
ummmm
one sec
nothing up on my ip:2283
try docker compose down
then
docker compose up
so we can easily see logs
ummm
no good news here
how can i show you everything?
is this readable?
it says dir already exists and is not empty
there, much better
hit Ctrl+C one time to stop the container
done
maybe we should continue tomorrow, i gotta get some sleep at some point
yep
any ideas on how to get this on track though?
just to go to bed with or without hope 🤣
Not sure, the important info is here:
Go to bed with hope.
It might just be permissions.
good
ill text here tomorrow when im done working
thanks a ton again nicholas, for real. my appreciation is really intense towards you rn
Try
chown -R 999 /mnt/Skyhawk/DB_DATA to set postgres as the owner of the db. Hopefully fixing permissions will make it work.
If I got the dir wrong let me know before you run it (it should be the path set as the db data location in the .env)hi there!
the DB_DATA is the folder where i copied immich_pgdata into
chown -R 999 /mnt/Skyhawk/DB_DATA/immich_pgdataokay
im booting up the system
one second and ill update
should be with sudo, right?
says permission denied
okay
done
should I try now to docker compose up ?
yes
no -d the first time
just so we can watch it
okay, same error as before
says directory already exists
let me paste everything here so you can have a propper look
wait
It kinda looks like it never stopped.
i just booted up the raspberry pi
it was off
im getting more text hold up
okay
sudo chown -R postgres /mnt/Skyhawk/DB_DATA/immich_pgdata
try thatalright
ctrl C
see if it makes any difference
onece
then taht
👍
chown: invalid user: ‘postgres’
huh okay
immich_postgres?
send screenshots of
ls -la /mnt/Skyhawk/DB_DATA and ls -la /mnt/Skyhawk/DB_DATA/immich_pgdata
sudo
that's why
(My env points to
/mnt/apps/data/immich-compose-test/docker/postgres)i see your permissions are full and mine arent
sudo ls -la /mnt/Skyhawk/DB_DATA/immich_pgdata/_data
Don't do that
Mine are only like that because it's a test instance.
It's bad practice.
yep
so your env needs to point to that
but
i wont be doing anything without your approval at this point, dw 😂
so it needs to point to _data folder
if im understanding
like here, right?
hold on
okay
I think a move would be better
So that there's not pointless subdirs (that will cause confusion in the future)
right
so just mv everything to /DB_DATA
wait
I seem to remember something about mv caring about whether you put a slash at the end
just did a test
okay
I would personally go with a different dir name
All caps is usually for envs
im all ears
okay
we can change both
also, if you want to use the same one, you'll have to rename the current and then mv the files.
i dont mind changing
at all
we could do something like database and files?
for the DB and upload
So I'd say immich_db or just pgdata
okay
for UPLOAD it could be immich_storage or something
immich_db works for me
cool
now, new dirs?
so,
sudo mv /mnt/Skyhawk/DB_DATA/immich_pgdata/_data /mnt/Skyhawk/immich_db
do not mkdirokay
That way it will rename _data rather than put it inside a dir.
done
and same for the upload?
sudo mv /mnt/Skyhawk/UPLOAD /mnt/Skyhawk/immich_storage
sudo mv /mnt/Skyhawk/UPLOAD /mnt/Skyhawk/immich_storage
make sure to update env to matchstill have the DB_DATA
should i rm?
not yet
on it
In general, don't run any delete commands until after something works.
Especially while moving important data
Also, you still have a copy of the db on your Windows PC right?
i do
Good
good?
Looking good. 👍
okay
done
change permissions on any folder? or just docker compose up?
try compose up
looking good
🤞
moment of truth
no errors for the moment
Did you try the WebUI?
looks like it identified an existing db
not yet, im giving it time to start up
just did
working
Oh also, how big is this HDD?
Woo
3tb
i can not believe this
its working
Okay, now stop immich. Ctrl+C
then
docker compose up -d
That way it'll keep going.
you are a genius
everything is exactly the same
albums
shared
map
photos
thumbnails
all intact
Yay!
this is mad work on your behalf dude
fr
Now, back up this stuff.
need to read on how to
there was an article on it on immich site right?
good shit, glad you got up and running again
this was all nicholas. Absolute master
Immich Documentation: https://immich.app/docs/overview/introduction/
creds to him
https://immich.app/docs/guides/template-backup-script
One way to do it
You're welcome for the help.
ik its in spanish
but that should do it once a week, and keep the last 4 weeks, right?
Yeah.
okay
should i also do the script?
If you're willing to restore the db from a backup, the only folder you need to backup is
/mnt/Skyhawk/immich_storage
I think that for saving the backups. If you have another means of backing up that's fine.
This makes a copy of the DB and puts it in /mnt/Skyhawk/immich_storage/backupsalright, so I have another hdd (2tb) which i bought with the intention of every month or so, have the main (3tb) disk cloned to the (2tb) one
in case the main one dies
Also, the way it copies is safe, regular copying might be unsafe because there could be an in progress transaction (I'm not sure if this is true, just my guess).
with this method of backing up, i could retrieve directly from the 2tb disk both the database and the content
So how do you do it?
A script?
that's my next step
i tried rsync, but my raspberry just unmounts both disks when i run it
maybe it overloads or something
i have to figure out a way of cloning the main disk to the secondary
rsnapshot i think it was called
Check #immich or #off-topic.
Those are the places to ask about backing up/cloning methods.
great
and one last thing
should i install docker desktop?
Up to you, from what I've seen it's bad for managing docker compose.
its bad?
Or rather, I haven't found a GUI button for docker compose up and docker compose down
thing is, i always updated immich on portainer, so now without any gui i guess ill have to learn
i stopped the stack, then updated the .yml and back up
It's mainly status and container management but not seemingly focused on compose.
okay
ill try without gui
so now, for a standard version update, i just docker compose down and up
right?
okay
answered with your link
I don't think so.
Alright.
docker compose pull && docker compose up -d
thats the command for an updte
docker compose pull is the update part.
this just runs the start command after running the update commandyep yep
i just copied and pasted
alright
well
after all your help, if i can be of any for you let me know
will now focus on keeping a clean backup
Make a backup right now, even if it's not that clean.
of the whole hdd?
But yes, do that.
maybe
If you can then yes
im not sure how to proceed
id have to read about it
Well, you could just stop immich, copy the db and storage folders to another drive, then work on a real backup.
hmm
Just in case something goes wrong between now and having a real backup.
you mean with command
like cp?
yeah
Also, for recursive copying, I usually do cp -a
(So copy a folder and all of it's contents (as well as stuff like permissions and more because of -a rather than -r))
okay, so basic command would be sudo cp /mnt/Skyhawk /mnt/2hdd -a
for example?
put the -a after cp
not after the paths
(don't know if it makes a different for cp but in general that's the case)
okay, just insterted the backup hdd, and it does something weird
it unmounted the main drive
previously sda
and now i have this
no sda, main disk unmounted itself
and now i have sdb and sdc
stop immich
if you can
i did
Is this all over USB on the RPi4?
yes
Are these portable external drives? or proper HDDs in an adapter?
so one of them is a Skyhawk on a powered sata to usb cable (main disk) 3TB
and the other one is an external hdd WDPassport (backup disk) 2TB
im going to format the backup drive to ext4 so i can use it on the raspberry
I also have an SSD (240gb) that i bought to install the OS in it, instead of having it on the SD card, due to reliability issues, yet when i install everything on the ssd and set the rasp to boot on usb it just wont boot. Thats the next step after having the backup situation solved😂
Ive been trying with everything closed, but just as always, when i run the cp command, both disks unmount and appear with different letters in lsblk (sda->sdb) ill keep looking into it tomorrow. thanks again for all the help nicholas!
I didn't read all of this but when setting permissions, be sure to set the group as well so
chown -R 999:999 blablablaIn this case they didn't actually have any group permissions allowed so it doesn't really matter 😛
It doesn't need group to work though.
Also, the problem was some subdirs
It's all sorted though!
Just reading some pieces here, but if sda to sdb switch is part of your problems, it’s a good reminder that mounts should use the /dev/by-uuid (or whatever it is) and not the block device handle
@Gonza check this advice.
Unfortunately I wont have time today to work on it, but I setup my main disk to automatically mount to /mnt/Skyhawk on /etc/fstab with its UUID. Still switches when I try to run something like a cp command on it
If this isn't what you mean by mounting by uuid, let me know how to! Thx
@Gonza did you delete messages?
i did
i figured the problem out, my hdd isnt mounting on its own. im troubleshooting
Okay, at least send one message saying nvm to the messages I deleted. Or just say nvm without deleting.
sry, will do next time. I thought no one read them, didnt want to grab your attention
I got a notification about it, that's all.
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