wine ntsync

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how do you own this?

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nursing-lime•1/9/25, 6:12 AM

All of those environment variables and a custom build of Proton? You’re probably going to need to ask whomever told you all of those

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nursing-lime•1/9/25, 6:13 AM

That’s the longest configuration I have ever seen in any log presented here

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nursing-lime•1/9/25, 6:16 AM

For example, you’re using

"WINE_DISABLE_FAST_SYNC",
            "value": "0"

"WINE_DISABLE_FAST_SYNC",
            "value": "0"

"WINE_DISABLE_FAST_SYNC",
            "value": "0"

"WINE_DISABLE_FAST_SYNC",
            "value": "0"

When the option to disable fsync is already in Heroic

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nursing-lime•1/9/25, 6:17 AM

Then you have disabled DXVK, but I don’t know if that is for a specific purpose

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 6:50 AM

hmm i will try and remove that line and see if that works. The env option was mentioned in a cachyos forum post

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 6:54 AM

Yea that doesn't help, the game icon is in system tray, but no window pops up, like it really can't find a video driver but there is. Also, sure it says it in log but using nvidia. I have tried propietary driver and open driver

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nursing-lime•1/9/25, 7:05 AM

You shouldn’t be installing DXVK via Winetricks. Setting your windows version to winxp by installing that via Winetricks isn’t ideal either

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nursing-lime•1/9/25, 7:06 AM

Pretty much all of the environment variables and the wrapper options look like they’re hodgepodge copied

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nursing-lime•1/9/25, 7:06 AM

Also, you shouldn’t be using the use dedicated GPU option either

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 7:25 AM

I was playing around with the GPU option. Ok recreated a new prefix to clean slate. I am noticing when trying to use system wine i get "(01:24:22) ERROR: [Backend]: Couldn't find all library folders of Wine Default - wine-9.0 (Staging)!" Is there a way to find out which library it is looking for?

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colossal-harlequin•1/9/25, 7:26 AM

again, how do you own this game? it's not free to play

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 7:27 AM

Technically it is, but there is an initial cost(and yes I did pay for base and upgrades)

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colossal-harlequin•1/9/25, 7:28 AM

then that isn't free to play, but carry on

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colossal-harlequin•1/9/25, 7:28 AM

please post a new log

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 7:37 AM

https://0x0.st/8-Z5.log

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radical-lime•1/9/25, 9:12 AM

is your kernel module enabled too?

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radical-lime•1/9/25, 9:12 AM

PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1

PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1

PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1

PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1 is all you need when it comes to ntsync

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radical-lime•1/9/25, 9:13 AM

but from my testing the cachyos build is really unstable, many games just don't work

Rradical-lime is your kernel module enabled too?

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radical-lime•1/9/25, 9:13 AM

you can verify that by checking if

/dev/ntsync

/dev/ntsync

/dev/ntsync

/dev/ntsync exists

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 9:24 AM

❯ ls /dev/ntsync
crw-r--r-- 10,123 root 8 Jan 04:39  /dev/ntsync

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 9:25 AM

If i directly launch the eso64.exe, which is the actual game and not launcher it works.

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radical-lime•1/9/25, 9:39 AM

like I said, the proton version is really unstable

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radical-lime•1/9/25, 9:40 AM

many things will just refuse to work

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 9:46 AM

Yea, atleast the launcher anyway and even plain wine and wine-staging is an issue

Wworthy-azure https://0x0.st/8-Z5.log

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nursing-lime•1/9/25, 2:01 PM

You need to enable DXVK and VKD3D in settings

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 6:21 PM

I mean if it is not complaining about vkd3d and dxvk, other wine versions will go to like stack overflow and starting debugger and that is it

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dry-scarlet•1/9/25, 6:52 PM

dxvk allows games that use directx 8-11 to function vkd3d does the same but with dx12.. if you want to play games, generally you need this enabled as basically all pc games require direct x.

Without it you are using the limited wine3d which supports directx via open gl.. which is slow and buggy.

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dry-scarlet•1/9/25, 6:54 PM

granted, looks like you are using some custom proton? i suspect it has dxvk and vkd3d enabled by default if so

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dry-scarlet•1/9/25, 6:55 PM

also why custom proton (honestly why all this random custom stuff? is there a specific reason for it?)

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nursing-lime•1/9/25, 6:58 PM

thinking about it now, you're probably right that it's enabled by default

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nursing-lime•1/9/25, 6:59 PM

however, this part in the log gives me pause and makes me think that is in fact complaining about dxvk and vkd3d

0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\dxgi.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library dxgi.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\ndowens\\Games\\ESO\\drive_c\\Program Files (x86)\\Zenimax Online\\Launcher\\libcef.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\d3d9.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library d3d9.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\ndowens\\Games\\ESO\\drive_c\\Program Files (x86)\\Zenimax Online\\Launcher\\libcef.dll") not found

0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\dxgi.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library dxgi.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\ndowens\\Games\\ESO\\drive_c\\Program Files (x86)\\Zenimax Online\\Launcher\\libcef.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\d3d9.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library d3d9.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\ndowens\\Games\\ESO\\drive_c\\Program Files (x86)\\Zenimax Online\\Launcher\\libcef.dll") not found

0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\dxgi.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library dxgi.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\ndowens\\Games\\ESO\\drive_c\\Program Files (x86)\\Zenimax Online\\Launcher\\libcef.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\d3d9.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library d3d9.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\ndowens\\Games\\ESO\\drive_c\\Program Files (x86)\\Zenimax Online\\Launcher\\libcef.dll") not found

0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\dxgi.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library dxgi.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\ndowens\\Games\\ESO\\drive_c\\Program Files (x86)\\Zenimax Online\\Launcher\\libcef.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\d3d9.dll") not found
0024:err:module:import_dll Library d3d9.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\ndowens\\Games\\ESO\\drive_c\\Program Files (x86)\\Zenimax Online\\Launcher\\libcef.dll") not found

Ddry-scarlet also why custom proton (honestly why all this random custom stuff? is there a sp...

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nursing-lime•1/9/25, 7:00 PM

ntsync I'm guessing

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dry-scarlet•1/9/25, 7:07 PM

ah makes sense abuot the libvkd3d stuff you mention.

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dry-scarlet•1/9/25, 7:07 PM

honestly maybe worth it to just run stock proton-ge

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dry-scarlet•1/9/25, 7:09 PM

im not sold that there's gonna be a big perf bump with it esp in a game that's pretty old on a system like that

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radical-lime•1/9/25, 7:12 PM

@loathingKernel this is something you may want to see

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awake-maroon•1/9/25, 7:18 PM

Thanks for the ping, which version is this @ndowens?

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 7:23 PM

I think it's 9.0-20250102. But just seen there is one newer I can try later today

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awake-maroon•1/9/25, 7:24 PM

This build is meant to be used with the SteamLinuxRuntime enabled, you have it disabled. The second error that happens when using its wine directly is expected, the one that it can't find libvkd3d-shader.dll, because you are skipping the proton script.

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radical-lime•1/9/25, 7:25 PM

oh proton here was added as Custom Wine

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radical-lime•1/9/25, 7:25 PM

I completely missed it

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 7:25 PM

Ah. If I use proton instead of wine portion, it gives using fast sync but no error no launch of gui. I will retry using SRL

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awake-maroon•1/9/25, 7:26 PM

Also, don't bother with ntsync in that proton, it is borked badly in subtle ways. We never added it in a regular release, I just wanted to test ntsync with slr.

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 7:27 PM

Gotcha. Mostly wanted to mess with it and use and maybe overtime it gets better

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 7:27 PM

Guess I will just go back to fsync then

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awake-maroon•1/9/25, 7:28 PM

I cannot make it better myself, it is beyond my understanding of wine internals. But there are a few people looking at it with me, maybe it does get better, maybe it doesn't.

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worthy-azure•1/9/25, 7:29 PM

Well by it gets better, I mean the developer of ntsync, if still maintained that is

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awake-maroon•1/9/25, 7:29 PM

It is, and that's my hope too

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worthy-azure•1/10/25, 1:06 AM

hmm I am now getting i386-linux-gnu-capsule-capture-libs: warning: Dependencies of /usr/lib32/dri/nouveau_drv_video.so not found, ignoring: Missing dependencies: Could not find "libLLVM.so.18.1" in LD_LIBRARY_PATH "", ld.so.cache, DT_RUNPATH or fallback /lib:/usr/lib no mater which proton i use. I do have libLLVM.so.18.1 in /usr/lib

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