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Immich•4mo ago
quack3d

Is creating thumbnails necessary?

I installed Immich on a Synology and I'm in the testing phase. My external library is 800 GB with 156 000 files. My docker container was started yesterday and is at 42 GB with 165 000 files and counting. I assume that's all the thumbnails. But why is it really creating those? Can't it behave like in Windows when you open a photos folder and it generates temp thumbnails on the fly (if that's really what's happening)? I'm just trying to make sense of all this. 🙂
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Immich•4mo ago
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Immich•4mo ago
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bo0tzz
bo0tzz•4mo ago
Can't it behave like in Windows when you open a photos folder and it generates temp thumbnails on the fly
That would make for a miserable browsing experience We do everything ahead of time so that when you go to use Immich everything's as fast as it can possibly be
quack3d
quack3dOP•4mo ago
That makes sense. Is it the Preview (Webp) that's displayed when browsing or Thumbnail (Jpeg)?
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Immich•4mo ago
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bo0tzz
bo0tzz•4mo ago
The webp is used for the small display in the timeline etc, the jpeg is used for larger display (eg viewing) as well as for things like ML
quack3d
quack3dOP•4mo ago
I guess I'll just have to wait and see but if it's creating 3 files for each picture, 800 GB pictures will be about 120 GB in thumbnails if my calculating is somewhat accurate. But I guess it makes sense to have a jpeg instead of showing the original photo to have faster loading.
Tempest
Tempest•4mo ago
Are you transcoding as well? I just run the thumbnails and they're quite small compared to my library. Think just under 50gb for approx 1tb of storage (videos not transcoded)
quack3d
quack3dOP•4mo ago
Yeah, transcoding was on by default it seems It's set to only transcode unsupported files though
Tempest
Tempest•4mo ago
The contents of that would be in ./encoded-video
aviv
aviv•4mo ago
If the issue is storage, you can choose to put files created by Immich on different drives. For example, video and photo files would be on the HDD and thumbnails image files would be on the SSD for a faster experience. I'm not so sure if I understood your point. The HDD only comes into operation (rotation of the platters) when you open the video through the user interface.
Tempest
Tempest•4mo ago
My apologies I read your message wrong. You are absolutely correct
quack3d
quack3dOP•4mo ago
Thanks guys!
Immich
Immich•4mo ago
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