Bazzite freezes - fresh install.
System Specs:
CPU: 9800X3D
GPU: XFX 9070 XT
Memory: 64GB
This just started today. I've had Bazzite running for almost a week or so. I've been playing V Rising for quite a while without issues. Today, it's freezing up and I'm not sure what to check for. I figured maybe it was a thermal event, but my CPU is showing 32C when I boot into the bios. I'm unsure where to begin.
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May 01 14:20:41 bazzite kwin_wayland[2722]: kwin_scene_opengl: Invalid framebuffer status: "GL_FRAMEBUFFER_INCOMPLETE_ATTACHMENT"
There's also some coredumps that's complaining about ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/fossilize_replay
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong in Steam.
https://paste.centos.org/view/9f201d24
mind uploading it as a file instead of a weburl? i use a texteditor to skim faster
.txt works fine
perfect, give me a bit.
what image are you using?
(image of bazzite)
I used the default image and tried once or twice on the second item in the grub entry, but I'm back on the default for now. I ran another ujust update and there were still more RPMs that updated just now.
cool cool
It included some mesa drivers that might be needed for the 9070xt
so i do see some weird shit goin on in the log
and that is one of them
The lack of updates or me swapping between images?
this
before you restart
just to explain it to you
I have already restarted 😦
oh thats fine too
lol
im gonna explain regardless
before the update (far as we know) your pcie slot was returning a hardware ID of
1002:13c0 which points towards RX 580 or RX 570
which, so long as you arent lying for whatever reason about what gpu is in your pc (which i really doubt)
isnt correct
this is causing plasmashell to freak the fuck out
and crash
the coredump is just a result of this
thats the first thing i sawI have an onboard GPU
It is powering 2 of my 6 monitors. The 9070 is powering the other 4.
that may be the cause of the issue
may being the keywordYeah that sounds plausible. I do not game off those other two monitors.
However, I did have steam up and running on one of the screens, but not the games itself. They launch on the primary monitor
try unplugging those two monitors and see if you get the same results. i feel like the pc trying to utilize both gpu's at the same time is causing some type of confusion somewhere
another option is to look into the testing branch of images to see if theres any fixes on those images not included in the stable releases
I'm going to let it cook after the ujust update. I feel like a bunch of missing relevant RPM packages would contribute to that. If I crash again, I will unplug those two monitors next and roll with 4. I will report back.
9070 being bleeding edge is cause for many issue atm
This is my first time using Linux as a daily driver for my gaming rig. I've been working on it professionally since the mid 90's and just term'd in. It is simultaneously foreign and familiar to me. A lot of these utilities I never use in the enterprise.
you are in the EXACT same boat as me
RHEL ruined me
I feel embarassed
i have nightmares about samba
and nothing to be embarassed about. we both know how fast the linux distro communities work
fuck look at ubuntu
i remember when that fuckin came out
and now its so sososo different
Yeah but when you work for RH, you feel like you should be a bit more naturally adept at this.
also as a man with many monitors, i fell you
not anymore lol
its been years since
decades
Thanks. You found any good resources that would bridge the gap for people like us?
always open tabs yea
Home
Bazzite is a custom image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices.
source of all information on bazzite specific things you could need
extremely easy to navigate
massive source of information, made by the community and contribs
the more technical side. drop issues that you want looked at here. these issues NEED to be well written, and documented. dont post on this site like you would on discord (here).
source of how well a game will play on linux
I'm familiar with protondb, got a ton of bad advice about V Rising in there lol
source for multiple linux distros
gotta look at what system the poster is using
if they dont specify, ignore
also dont download random dlls from users on that sight
(theres already been an issue)
I'll immerse myself in the docs for a few weeks.
And uh yeah, enough years of windows gaming taught me not to trust random dll's on the internet
dll's on linux feels weird anyways
this site is like protondb
facts
I have a second drive with a W11 partition on it but I really really just only want to go there if there's zero choice.
keep in mind a lot of users in this discord (bazzite) tend to be younger and wet behind the ears
whats keepin you on it?
It's insurance.
like insurance software?
I upgraded my PC to allow for a dualboot experiment.
OH
W11 is "insurance" in case something I need doesn't work on bazzite
backup
yeah
so are there any specifics you are worried about?
program wise
Several, but I'm giving myself time to just explore and figure it out. It's a timesink issue for me to learn.
fair fair, just know a lot of programs can be ran through lutris and proton, not just games
I've noticed that. Leaning heavy into Lutris, figured out how to download the latest proton GE, etc.
GE proton is best for just games lol
also, if you put steam into its beta update, youll have access to proton 10
(restart steam to show effect)
Is that worth it?
id say yes.
its brand spanking new
less than half a week
maybe it has the latest 9070 stuff in it?
For what it's worth I'm running a 9070xt and same CPU and played v-rising today with Mesa 25.05 today with no issues, but I only have 2 monitors on the 9070xt.
possible
xfx 9070?
Good to know. I'm going to see if the missing RPMs were the culprit
Power color reaper
The stable version of bazzite updated today with Mesa 25.05.
word word.
Didn't fix all of my issues but definitely improved them.
I haven't gone longer than 30 minutes without a crash before this.
best way to tell is to put the gpu under load
i.e. play a game for a bit
I got wow fired up now and i'm in a raid
fuckin a
snipe the loot
I'm just here to help. I'm already maxed out.
i didnt stutter
OG rules
/j
also WoW is more cpu intensive
Thanks a ton for your help
anytime. any more issues feel free to open another post.
if your issue is solved fully, react with the ✅ at the top.
I'll write up probably tomorrow after some more thorough testing.
Immensely helpful
@Zachriel Crashed, trying the unplug method now
rgr
if it crashes again, grab me a log again.
It didn't take long. Crashed again
sec for me to read through
...do you have secure boot?
yes
Followed the bazzite instructions (ish)
and youve enrolled correctly right?
yes
ish
so explain the ish
The docs mostly target multiple partitions instead of separate drives
Dual Boot Preliminary and Post-Installation Setup Guide - Bazzite D...
Bazzite is a custom image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices.
ah gotcha
(i dont use SB so that parts new to me)
https://docs.bazzite.gg/General/Installation_Guide/secure_boot/ Secure boot setup. I enrolled the key
Secure Boot Instructions - Bazzite Documentation
Bazzite is a custom image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices.
I think SB is required for W11
fuckin puke.
System appears fine when not running anything on steam, but i still don't have any live stats for CPU/GPU temps.
are you on KDE or gnome
KDE
you can use
system monitor to have a persistant graph up on your screen
like a widgetexamples:
Is that widget a part of your desktop background now?
basically
you cant interact with it unless youre in edit mode
many options to mess with
Can you export that page and send it to me? Looks like I can import a system monitor page
Is that all from system monitor?
ill teach you how to do it
yes
real simple steps
rightclick taskbar, go to add or manage widgets
search for system monitor
and place it somewhere on your screen
lmk when you get to that point
yeah
just got a single circular widget
perfect
you can leave edit mode now
right click on the widget
and configure system monitor
Set your title to what you want to watch
display style is up to you, but i like line charts
and under sensor details, you can specify what you want the widget to show
ignore keyboard shortcuts for these
finalize, apply, ok
I see
its not super specific, but it gets the job done for me
You can add them to the task bar too, if you want smaller/out of the way
oh yea, that too
i just have many screens like you do, so using one to monitor stats is helpful
Not sure which one is GPU1/2 yet but i'll watch temps
going back to that log previously, i see errors on SELinux, which can be from secure boot being weird i believe. and i also see something about
systemd-remountfs.service failing as well, which could mean the system is having issues remounting / or other during boot
leading to instability.I can disable it and test again.
itll usually go igpu first
im more worried about that system-remountfs failing
thats cause for some concern
Would an OS update require a re-register of keys?
my thoughts are to:
1. Try without secure boot (unless you absolutly need it on)
2. Rebase Bazzite, that remounting error is kinda big.
not usually no.
again, assuming no wierd shit was done prior by the user
Any recommendations on which rebase to go with here?
stable, and whatever fits your hardware. if youre on a desktop, dont use gaming mode for this
gaming mode is just...fun to get working correct sometimes.
just making sure, your bazzite partition is btrfs right?
Yes
ok good lol
Chose default partition options
perf
verified on btrfs
Any consequences to a rebase?
not really, its kinda like a reset to base image
secure boot
throws some niche into it
I can work through that.
my guess here is that SB is playing into some issues going on
State: idle
Deployments:
● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite:stable
Digest: sha256:91f041cd775526e8fe11089a1ca3433224cb9b5d1580c3ceb50973ec558f6dd9
Version: 42.20250430 (2025-05-01T19:32:10Z)
LayeredPackages: coolercontrol liquidctl
b/c i cant think of any reason the remounter should fail
I was just going to rebase with ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite:stable as per above
That would be safest?
make sure that image fits your hardware, from the bazzite site
i kinda just winged it
Bazzite - The next generation of Linux gaming
Bazzite makes gaming and everyday use smoother and simpler across desktop PCs, handhelds, tablets, and home theater PCs.
if you fill out the drop boxes with the right info (no gaming mode) it should give you the correct rebase command to the right of the download button
ack
basically
rebase into update
you should disable SB in the bios before that
per instructionsheh, i just finished the rebase command
sorry for the scramble
alright
I will ujust bios and then disable SB from there
then re-enroll
yeah got it
i await your response
Interesting. No need to re register after any of this.
To clarify, no need to re-enroll the keys
hey thats one less step in the process lol
rebase go good?
Yeah it went fine. Here's the latest logs again
was there a crash?
no
only need the crash logs
Too soon for that, just wanted to see if the remount issue is gone
sec
do a
ujust update for meI snuck one in after the rebase before the re-enroll. Just ran it again now and there's no updates.
ok
so
issue persists
I have not tested since the rebase.
give it a shot for the time being
The crash. I'm not sure if the boot issue is a red herring or not. I have no other symptoms.
thats what im confirming currently
Now that I'm thinking about it, I wonder if unplugging the monitors wasn't enough. Maybe I need to disable the onboard GPU in the bios.
ok yea i may just be overthinking my linux knowledge
bazzite is immutable by nature so
Perhaps but maybe all these crashes corrupted something
a rebase might have taken care of that
its kinda where i was going
there was just a bunch of weird fucky stuff i saw in the first one
Crashed again after about 20 minutes. Started getting my hopes up ha
gotcha
yup. same issues. im starting to wonder if the hardware mismatch is the source of the issue. let me find the command to show hardware ID's
lspci -nn drop that in a terminal and SS the output
itll list all hardware with pci access
(i believe)this is mine, for example
line 26, it detects the correct card, by hardware ID
ok, have you disabled your iGPU through bios?
nope, i can go do that now
try it
Well, confirmed the GPU is off because the one sensor doesn't register anymore lol.
Will test again and report back.
love me some system monitor
So, paid, bored, or what?
lost my job due to politically motivated objectives outside of my hands/knowledge.
helping here to keep me from going insane while i get rejected by everyone lol
You try anything at Red Hat?
been too long for anything relevant now
i mainly dealt with maintaining medical imaging software using in hosptials
i.e. xray viewers
In a sysadmin role or as a developer?
and setting the specific hospitals up with certain Barco monitors
honestly i cant rememeber if it was one or the other. its was kinda a mixture of both. The software needed to be edited for certain clients for different purposes
so we'd deal with it on a case by case basis
usually in teams set to regions
we maintained the software, and hardware to an extent (setting them up with certain retailers/wholesalers for tech)
and also maintain usability throughout OS updates, etc
due to HIPPA we werent allowed to deal with raw data, but in a sense we also dealt with their internal networking
for sending the files (xrays and the such) securely through routes etc.
it was a lot
If you change your mind about a job, I'd be curious what you'd be good at. You know your way around the troubleshooting process.
im unemployed so
😄
You make it sound more like retired.
naw not that old
feel like it
i am a veteran of the AF so i may have aged faster than most lol
US?
indeed
i am described as nondescript boring guy. good stories to tell tho
aye
ive been everywhere plays in the background
and yea as for the troubleshooting, it just gives me a good feeling, trying and hopefully succeeding in helping someone out in something i find a bit of passion in (bazzite literally)
its pretty natural for me
i care too much
what a fucking curse it is
Indeed.
I've been doing some sort of troubleshooting role for 25 years now.
i feel your pain already hahaha
I get to do it at scale now. It keeps it interesting.
like, hierarchy scale, or region wide scale?
Both
shiiiiiii
hows Jira treating yall?
I sent you a DM while we wait for this PC to not blow up.
Jira is fine, bugzilla was just too old.
oh jesus bugzilla
oh hey back to the actual non rant issue, how is stability since disabling the igpu?
Crashed
Booting up now to get logs
rgr
so this is more than likely due to my inexperience with bazzite, and also me being unable to test a 9070 myself, so take this with a bit of salt:
im not entirely sure that the GPU mismatch is the actual source of the crashing. the fact that it gives a hardware id for a rx580 on that line, makes me believe its detecting the igpu but not the actual gpu. HOWEVER that command i said to run
lspci -nn shows us that it detects the 9070, and reports a valid hardware ID. This is where a disconnect for me is. Part of me still things that secure boot could be causing some issue as well, from those prior remount issues, but again, lack of experience is showing here for me. I hate how w11 requires secure boot to run, hard requirements suck sometimes. Im gonna keep looking into this, far as im able, but i would also like you to see if the testing branch of bazzite could be of some use here to you, being the brand new GPU.I could disable secure boot as a next test.
I can just flip it on if i ever need W11
i dont know if this will cause issues long term with having w11 installed, so i didnt want to recommend it yet.
It's a fresh install on a new system that only has OS patches on it. I have nothing of value on that drive.
I hope I never boot into it ever again.
well that makes me feel a bit better hahaha
so my best guesses here are: to try out the testing branch, which you can ask more on the #🎮bazzite channel for more info on how to get there, or possibly in the docs, i havent looked. testing from what im aware is just a rebase away, so it shouldnt be a complicated process. And another option is to disable SB fully, and just forgetting about it, though you may need to rebase (again) to remove the mok setup stuff, if thats even needed here.
Well, we're going to find out again shortly. Fired up a game just now after disabling SB.
i pray to the nine
No crashes yet. Longest so far.
under load?
Correct
I'm going to probably head to bed in a bit and try again tomorrow, plug the monitors and the onboard gpu in
leave secure boot off
dont forget to re enable the igpu in bios
to see if the lack of SB changes that as well
yep
(i.e. not crashing)
yep
Would make sense that W11 was at fault here the whole time.
lets talk more later on things that you may have that require w11, to see if alternatives, or natives exists for them.
yeah that would be awesome
Just for another data point, my desmg also shows
systemd[1]: Failed to start systemd-remount-fs.service - Remount Root and Kernel File Systemsi might be stupid, but i think this specific error is b/c of an immutable system and can be ignored.
Ah
TBD still learning
Crashed. Thought I was in the clear.
lasted way longer though
I wonder if its steam
It only happens when I launch a game
fffffuuuuuuuuuck
lemme search something
It's weird that it also only started today.
I was good since Sunday-ish which is when I brought this system online.
are you running GE proton for these games?
Yeah 9.27
have you tried using a standard proton? like experimental
i dont think so
oh wait yes I have
I have it on now and I've tried GE proton 9.27 and 9.25
if you still have time (sleep is important) try out experimental to see if the crash happens again
It was set at experimental during the last crash
oh
the only real thing i saw with steam was
May 01 18:46:59 proton[4206]: Proton: Prefix has an invalid version?! and May 01 18:46:59 steam[4206]: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/extest/libextest.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
the first im sure is from a non standard proton version (GE)
the second is a bit harder to explain, its basically trying to load a program in 32bit but the system is 64bit, i believe. this one pops up a shitton in logWhat would cause that?
that is currently beyond me, ive been trying to lookup any causes for this, in any case, and im not seeing anything that remotely relates to this
its like loading an old program with wrong settings
it could be steam think that its in -deck mode, or it could just be steam being dumb
you could try using the beta update for steam, to see if that changes anything. doubtful, but might be worth something.
It doesn't seem to help either. I wonder if I need to do a full re-install at this point.
Maybe back to basics? Try reseating the video card. I keep meaning to do that with mine.
let me try, its a fresh build, maybe something was bumped recently
I dont think our builds are that different, and I am not experiencing the crashing and i think you've effectively removed the secure boot from the install.
That actually happend to me with my ram, it was really weird. It saw both sticks but one of them it didnt see the full memory available. I breezed through the BIOS settings and was like "2 sticks found good to go".
hey both, so i looked more into what i was reading last night a bit
And then like a month later I was like why do I only have 20 gigs of ram?
reseat fixed it
so that remount issue is 100% because immutable. its gonna be there no matter what
which leads me to beleive that this is a hardware specific error now. at this point, a re-install may be a good idea, as something isnt fully working
bazzite sees the correct card, and reports as such
steam being the leading cause for the crash (or at least playing a game that puts the GPU under load) is looking to be a primary culprit currently
( i havent slept yet lmao)
it could be b/c steam has a -deck prefix attatched to its launch
which would cause hardware mismatches, if steam is expecting mobile hardware
but that other issue (the one about the ELF class being 32 instead of 64 (x86)) is also what has me stumped as fuck
could be from an improper game install, but it seems unlikely.
Sort of unrelated but I ran into this error a few years back and yea, thats usually a good sign to go to bed
arch-independent elf magic is tricky
i can sleep when i die
but seriously that ELF error, and the amount of them i see (even if theyre ignored) is odd to me
regardless, its steam based
leading me back to the 'steam is the culprit' comment
Yea do a reseat check, and then reinstall and check
Zachriel not that it needs to happend today/tonight, but if I am still seeing errors would you mind taking a look at them. I think I am really just trying to figure out where to report them the AMD git or the mesa git.
if its the same issues as the current thread, feel free to add into it, however if your issue is differnt, id recommend you create a help thread, to keep things organized.
Ok will do
different
feel free to ping me on that thread
Ok thanks!
I did a reseat. Also, the -deck prefix on launch, is that by default? I am not sure where to change that.
i believe they fixed it in a patch, so you should be fine as long as you are fully updated
I'm going to see if the issue persists in W11. Would make sense if it's a hardware issue.
Not sure if this is related at all, but I just spent the last while reading through all of this. I had a weird crashing issue just the other day after swapping gpus on my father's PC. His computer would error out and hard lock up in a steam game at varying times, usually no more then 20 minutes and I noticed it happened whenever the gpu fans clicked on to run. Makes me believe it was a surge of power and the PSU was too weak to handle it. Might be worth thinking about
Aye, I think the W11 testing will help isolate that. Same hardware, different OS. Would experience other weird symptoms.
PSU Is a Corsair RM1000x
Let's hope it's nothing serious 🤞
Not eco mode/ power savings turned on somewhere? Unsure if that would do anything
I don't know where that would exist in bazzite that i haven't already checked
W11 been holding up fine for a while. Maybe I go for the OS wipe/reinstall on Bazzite.
eco mode is through powermanagement settings in system settings, but i doubt thats the issue here. There was some weird powerlimit stuff i saw, but that was from steam not finding steamdeck hardware, which would be very weird if this is a desktop image.
I rebased to the desktop image again anyways. I will probably go for a fresh install this weekend.
word. i got the thread saved up, so dont think ive gone and abandoned ya
eyeballs are on it lol