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optimistic-gold•3d ago
this is an issue with proton 10
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
optimistic-gold•3d ago
technically all it needs is for steam to run in the background
if you dont use steam
dont use anything related to proton 10 for now
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
im using ge 27
optimistic-gold•3d ago
not possible
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
do i need steam in the background
optimistic-gold•3d ago
Proton - Proton - Experimental
in your logwise-whiteOP•3d ago
oh wops then i selected the wrong one i meant to use ge 27 xd
my bad
optimistic-gold•3d ago
at least until new GE version comes out
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
but your saying i can just launch steam and this game will work
xd
optimistic-gold•3d ago
yes
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
dude thats crazy i dont even have this game on stea
m
optimistic-gold•3d ago
true
but proton runs a steam wrapper in the wine prefix
and that then launches the exe
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
ahh
optimistic-gold•3d ago
in proton 10 they have this assertation
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
alr Iaunch steam and see
optimistic-gold•3d ago
that makes it crash when steam is not present
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
but would you suggest not to use p10 or ge27 like at all
optimistic-gold•3d ago
I'm saying that anything based on 10 needs steam in the background
that includes experimental
ge 27 is a good go-to
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
yeah I'll just keep steam open
optimistic-gold•3d ago
and soon new ge-proton 10 will be released
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
Soon™️
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
ooouff do you think its gonna be better
optimistic-gold•3d ago
note that with ge you get automatic workarounds for non-steam games
that comes in-pair with umu
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
GE will be built around being run outside of Steam via umu
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
game ran really bad do you reckon it could be regarding the proton version?
optimistic-gold•3d ago
first of all, send new game log
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
https://0x0.st/8yWm.log
probs some launch options needed. where do you go around for that on heroic launcher (first time using it)
optimistic-gold•3d ago
Game Log: IMPORTANT: Logs are disabled. Enable verbose logs in Game's settings > Advanced tab > 'Enable verbose logs' before reporting an issue.
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
wth
did it auto disable
optimistic-gold•3d ago
yes
for performance reasons
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
alright let me launch again
optimistic-gold•3d ago
everything is available in game settings, from environment variables to launch options
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
does normal steam launch options work?? (this is from my epic library)
optimistic-gold•3d ago
also, define "ran really bad", was the FPS too low?
its up to the game really, but possibly yes
though keep in mind there is no concept of %command%
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
https://0x0.st/8yW2.log
its like the game wants to run smoothly so bad but it just doesnt
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
unless there were some specific reasons to use Proton Experimental (i.e., targeted fixes), I would drop back to GE 9-27
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
will I have to redownload for a swap of proton
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
no. you never need to redownload a game just to swap proton
at worst, you might need to delete the prefix folder, but that regenerates on launch
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
switching to ge 9-27 didnt really make any difference
game runs at like 140-200fps then drops down to 30fps like every 3-10 seconds
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
I assume this is launch options
frail-apricot•3d ago
Have you checked the thermals of your system ?
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
like cpu and gpu temps?
i couldnt get mangohud to run on heroic launcher it couldnt fint id
find it
but i would assume they are good its a pretty well cooling system
frail-apricot•3d ago
Is it Flatpak heroic ?
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
Yes
frail-apricot•3d ago
Yea this not a laptop I checked
Install Flatpak Mangohud 23.08 version
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
yes desktop 3070ti and r7 5800x3d with kraken elite 360 aio
frail-apricot•3d ago
And 24.08 for good measure
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
i have installed mangohud from flatpack
works on steam too
with the launchoption
frail-apricot•3d ago
23.08 runtime also ?
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
frail-apricot•3d ago
This GUI is not helpful
It doesn't say if it is 23.08 or 24.08
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
where would I find this information=?
frail-apricot•3d ago
Terminal
flatpak listwise-whiteOP•3d ago
I dont think it shows up here actually
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
flatpak list | grep -i mangowise-whiteOP•3d ago
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
seems i dont have mangohud anymore
frail-apricot•3d ago
Steam is not there anymore either
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
flatpak install mangohudfrail-apricot•3d ago
Check
flatpak list --userwise-whiteOP•3d ago
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
23.08frail-apricot•3d ago
No 24.08 now
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
oh god dammit haha
frail-apricot•3d ago
Ye we switched back to 24.08 again
Few hours back it seems
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
ok so i took 1)
installation complete
should this concern me
frail-apricot•3d ago
You should check the user flatpak installation
But probably not
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
nothing comes
:O
frail-apricot•3d ago
Also this is the system package?
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
frail-apricot•3d ago
So your steam is a system package
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
I mean I installed it on the software centre
frail-apricot•3d ago
Seems like it can handle system packages
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
well I have steam open rn so it must be somewhere xd
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
could the good old steamdeck=1 help with performance
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
if it does, it wouldn't be there
frail-apricot•3d ago
Probably not but you can try
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
has steam, uses Linux, not flatpak Steam... are you using Snap Steam?
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
should i enable logs
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
it would be an environment variable
frail-apricot•3d ago
This is mint I don't think snap exists
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
i wouldnt know what snap steam is
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
good
frail-apricot•3d ago
(it's shit)
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
i went onto software centre, searched steam, downloaded it, it gave me a Steam Installer, I ran it I have steam :D
frail-apricot•3d ago
Oof that system Mangohud is really old
The configs you create on the system version will be different than the one in the Flatpak because of how old it is
Linux mint moment, but not too big of a deal
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
I dont even kow what this means </3
frail-apricot•3d ago
There is a customization file for Mangohud that allows you to put temps and stuff
It changed a lot in the past like 2 years
That version is like 2 years old
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
I manually downloaded that
from github
frail-apricot•3d ago
Oh
Then just download new version
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
I had to create a Mangohud folder and put the config myself because the flatpak wouldnt do it
should i uninstall the old version
frail-apricot•3d ago
On your system ?
I'm confused
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
sshoulld i uninstall the mangohud i downloaded now and go to github to get a newer one?
frail-apricot•3d ago
Yea
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
sudo apt uninstall
?
or remove
or whatever it is
frail-apricot•3d ago
Yea
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
i'll just try something
Maaan I miss nzxt cam
frail-apricot•3d ago
Press remove button :rollsafe:
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
no i wanted to feel like im smart and know what im doing
mr code (i put top 3 easiest command in terminal)
frail-apricot•3d ago
What do you miss about it
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
The simplicity
just run it and watch your temp and work load
+ system info + light and fan control
so easy
i have nzxt fans, aio and case
frail-apricot•3d ago
u can't do light and fan control with mission center but u can view system metrics using it
frail-apricot•3d ago
metropolitan-bronze•3d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/NZXT/comments/inhzs6/cam_software_on_linux/g47ufo3/
this comment suggests
liquidctlwise-whiteOP•3d ago
liquidctl?
looks like task manager
(from windows)
frail-apricot•3d ago
yea it basically is
but it's better in some ways
The only thing I don't like about it is that it uses the term "Handles" in the CPU tab
it kinda bothers me
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
what is handles supposed to be? (sorry my windows was in norwegian)
frail-apricot•3d ago
it's hard to describe
but on linux it's called a file descriptor
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
oo real quick question should i pick MY platform rn or game original platform
frail-apricot•3d ago
Which game
wise-whiteOP•3d ago
whop never heard of
baldurs gate 3
frail-apricot•3d ago
file descriptors are handles 😦
my day is ruined
but in case you were wondering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_descriptor
other-emerald•3d ago
Locking this, no support will be provided for pirated games
frail-apricot•3d ago
yeah