NorthEast western wear equivalent? (Pt. 2)
So a year ago I asked this question and I got some good replies, but it'd be cool for others to add on as well. I think americana/workwear is really cool but there can be a pretty heavy focus on the west coast as well as the south (I mean we all love cowboys).
So I'd love to hear more people's ideas on what they think is that, but northeastern.
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also to add on, I was thinking about this bc when dressing in that manner I wanna be repping the northeast somehow
My immediate thoughts would be prep/new england style, so brands like PRL, LL Bean, Woolrich etc.
ya I love LL bean
I think left field (jeans company) kinda reaches more into the north east stuff by focusing on miners but I think the general idea of miners is also associated with california too
denim jeans were created during the California gold rush so you could say all denim is western wear with this line of thinking
that's true
If I'm understanding your question, you want to achieve a style different than Americana and workwear?
Like how much does the historical context behind pieces matter to you
hmmm
Because a lot of stuff originated in western wear
damn so the east coast has nothing? ☹️
deltic is right about prep/ivy being associated with the east coast
Northeast does have back country hiking out the wazoo so older backcountry styles can apply
Workwear on the other hand is pretty much the same on both ends. I guess you could look at old pics of fishermen? And bean boots
I guess I view jeans as more generally American now and then stuff like western hats/cowboy hats are more southern (but still also very american)
🙂↕️ I do indeed have bean boots
Fair enough
I love them
That true, and I enjoy that style as well. But the north east does have farmers, hunters, fishermen, blue collar workers etc
Like when I think of workwear - chore coats, work boots, overalls, fatigues/doubleknes, etc.- that all feels generally american
Yeah all of these feel generally american, idk if there's a distinct east coast style
im ngl I'm a bit hung up on the hat thing. I mean we have bean boots which are cool but we don't really have a cool hat. in my previous thread wool flat caps and maine guide hats were mentioned but I don't know if they give the same/similar message to people
There's ball caps that feel distinctly east coast
true... although in my head I've began to associate it more with ivy styles as well
tbf I live on the west coast and cowboy hats feel more like a rural vs city thing
🤔 I can see how that'd happen but If u had to ask people they're not thinking of Massachusetts when they think of cowboy hats though
rural parts I mean of the state. not boston ofc
northeast has a big nautical influence
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New England Workwear: Mighty Mac Out O’ Gloucester
New England Workwear: Mighty Mac Out O’ Gloucester New England is known for its preppy clothing and wet-weather gear. Think...
northeast was also known for lumber/shipping so theres lumberjack stuff associated but i think the NE workwear never got romanticized as much as the western expansion with its cowboy themes
Probably because Hollywood was right near the desert so westerns were easy to shoot unlike northeast shenanigans
🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️ this is factual
@warpweftwatergate
Yess I've noticed this as well, I think it's really cool. In my previous thread "oystercore" was brought up, although it's not a term I see heavily used
in:waywt has:image from:warp
oh I'll look at his fits
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Oh hey what up
Not really north east specific, but northeast included, could be more of trapper/hunter wear
It’s worth noting that I’m from the south originally so there’s a certain comfort there for me ( a southern comfort you could say)
you are wearing cowboy hats, what hats do you wear that you think are also cool but not cowboy hats
All other hats are stupid
😮
:xd:
wow
I’m kidding, trucker hats are great
But also just wear a cowboy hat no one cares
I care 😔
The trick to dressing like this is to not give a shit about anyone else’s opinion on the matter
Like beaver hunters, lots of fur and hunting jackets with the shoulder patch
I like those things too
I have a SHIRT with the shoulder rifle patch but not a jacket sadly
I don't hate cowboy hats but I just want to rep this area is all
I like them
Yeah me too, got a bunch of duck embroidery on it too😂 I love it tho despite being too big for me
that sounds so cool... duck embroidery
I'd love to get stuff with pheasants on them
what does this mean
I’m trying to find it, I have it stored away as it never gets cold enough where I live to put it on. Found it at a thrift store in Montana randomly
cowboy hats aren't bad taste btw far from it
Hello it’s me I’m from rural Massachusetts and I’m here to do fact checking
hello 👋
Like do you want to know what New England Americana looks like? Am I understanding the question correctly
I know what some of it looks like (I'm from new york city but I'm not unfamilar with upstate new york and the like) but I want to delve deeper into it
I honestly think a wool watch cap is probably the closest you’ll get to the cowboy hat in terms of use case and its connection to workwear
But also: just buy a cowboy hat
Go get some vintage ll bean stuff on eBay or at a vintage store
Can you post some images of the style you’re thinking of?
its literal LL bean stuff like you said, but I have two images I think hang on
so I just LIED I have one
Oh check out the Open Road
From Stetson
Arguably their only good non cowboy hat
it makes me think of a forest ranger hat
it looks cool but for some reason the little bow is offputting to me
I’ll put a (kinda) effortpost in here in an hour or so but I’m out w friends rn
I think I can see what you’re getting at
thank you 🙂↕️
they have these versions with a feather on the side, those look cool
theres vintage abercrombie too
on ebay and whatnot
I think theres a variety of reasons why, but this stuff from the northeast wasn't really mythologized and also just ripped a lot from English stuff
I don't think it exists in a cohesive way like the question implies tbh
current country boy popping in to agree with smiles
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What was mythologized from New England was the prep stuff basically
don’t worry adaptation will drop an info bomb on you shortly and you should get some good takeaways
yayy
true but then it feels like the west coast has their own version of that too though....
hollywood will pay 😠
The workwear stuff also just isn't distinctive
I’m getting more and more glued to my phone as this thread continues my friends are calling me all kinds of nasty names
These men are fishing in Gloucester in the 1940s, but you can't really tell it's specifically New England I think
wow tell them to be Nice
Tell them to escalate
what did adaptation do to deserve this 😔
I don't really think it does lol, unless you're talking about zoot suits which are different
Unironically this
goes hard tbf
I think this is cool too/want to dress like this
although it gets harder. in the summer
oh yeh for sure, no way I'm wearing a wool sweater like that if it isn't autumn/winter
I mean this is my point, even though fisherman probably dressed like this across New England, that's probably strongly associated with Ireland imo for a variety of reasons
Zoot suits are cool but no, I mean since the general idea of prep stuff is connected to ivy, although cali doesn't have an ivy league but there is a general idea of how their college students dress
Badly?
:0
maybe
But partly why the cowboy and the miners stick in cultural memory is their role in manifest destiny propaganda I would argue
People love to be sold a dream
Southern Gentleman has similar propaganda roles
And ditto for Prep tbh
Unless of course you mean me
a current southern gentleman
I feel like being a lumberjack can fit into this though
and being a fisherman
I mean a lumberjack is the Canadian association of the same expansion
In this essay I will
yayy essay
I will read it 😈
It's all about claim, like is there difference between how Irish, English, and New England fisherman dressed? Probably not major ones, but it's Ireland which hammered it into their mythos
ig im kinda confused here but wouldn't Ivy be this for the region? Or u want like specifically workwear?
I like ivy too but im specfically talking about workwear yes
I think this is something very hard to distinguish because americana workwear is extremely heavy intertwined with the gold rush as far as my understanding goes
But I'm not in the US so my exposure to this stuff is from a completely different lens
I mean in New England it's really prep or LL Bean style hunting stuff that is quintessentially new england
For me at least
Born & Raised
I do like the hunting stuff n we talked about it earlier (also I posted before in the server about an LL bean hunting vest from the 2000s that I bought) but I want it to be beyond that as well. The fishermen images that were sent were good/cool too
also the lumberjacks being mentioned too LOL
I mean ya im saying it isn't really cause this is basically what entered cultural memory
You saying this made me think about canadian tuxedos btw
😦 I understand
Plenty of workwear is factory wear instead of mining/lumber/farming and that was at one point very north east and upper Midwest. You could wear coveralls or something but I’m not sure it reads as “New England” because it’s not associated with a particular climate .
This is very northeastern work wear. But no one is going to read it as “New York” because it became universalized
I'm gonna have to get one of those caps they keep making repeat appearances lol
This has made the point I couldn't verbalise earlier, so much of workwear from that time period was not unique to a location
Everyone wanted the same tough, hard wearing garments or fabrics
This is a theory but a lot of the workwear is regional because it serves a specific need of that region. Hats in the arid southwest, heavy wool in the wet logging northwest. Northeastern work wear was factory wear. Which kind of goes everywhere because factories are inherently the same.
What I’m saying is dress like a whaler.
What about the summer/spring 🤔🧐
i’m glad nobody’s tried to glamourise factory clothes yet
Yeah, no one has ever worn a carhartt jacket off the floor.
Burning my chore coat
not quite what i was meaning…
What did u mean
bit of guesswork here but lot of the historical photos posted here seem to be c.1930s-50s. factories in that period had some horrific practices and conditions and not something that should become “trendy”
As In how do these styles with heavy wool/layers/sweaters etc translate into the summer and spring
I know there's... linen but that's just general summer/spring wear no?
Oh I'm not seeking to recreate working in those factories
Well working in a factory sure/yes but not under those conditions
No i know that haha. I was more responding to the conversation about where a lot of workwear in popular culture originates from
I think the clothes can be separated from the working environment here tbh. No one is going to think you are in favour of the working practices of the first half of the 20th century because you wore some overalls/dungarees based on that time period
Yeah I’d probably say so too. I probably could’ve gotten my point across better as I’m quite tired but I’m more meaning the culture around it too - at least at the moment the “cowboy” or “western” lifestyle is being glamorised a lot and was trying (and failing) to draw a comparison to that
Ohh I understand what you mean better now
Although myself personally I am interested in blue collar work
But of course not looking to do it in that manner LOL
ok lets do this
basically my basic theory of new england americana is that it exists on a spectrum from lumberjack to fisherman
Just take it off
and neither of these are exclusive to new england- fisherman exists in very similar states on both sides of the atlantic (as has been pointed out) and leans into ivy (coastal) and lumberjack appears in the midwest and can easily become transamerican gorp
as far as technical definitions i very much lean on 'i know it when i see it'
im also going to say that any kind of new england 'look' is very much a constructed cultural institution by people both inside and outside of NE and isnt just a naturally occurring phenomenon
There’s a lot to unpack with this, but the opposite is also true—part of the cowboy/workwear appeal is the rebellion inherent in it. It was co opted eventually, as all things are
okay now that the disclaimers are done lets get down to buisness
all of these are (obviously) fisherman
texturally i think it leans more towards rubber/canvas/dense, heavy knits
this is also fisherman to me
It is also a cowboy hat according to the website so u tricked me sir
😠 (jokingly angry)
'lumberjack' isnt neccessarily like actual lumberjack clothes with the signature flannel and whatnot but its heavier elements more suited to like hiking and mountains and forests and stuff
hiking boots, barn coats, fleeces etc
and i think most conceptions of 'new england americana' exist somehwere between these two concepts
and i think its kinda useful to know which one you're going for/leaning closer to because they dont always blend cohesively
I agree although I'd say it's more "industrial" maybe
The images you sent me makes me think of fishermen (hobby) and then the sweaters are fishermen (career)
i mean i just look at them as fisherman (freshwater) vs fisherman (ocean) more than anything tbh
like those guys are getting dressed to fish in lakes and streams
That's true too, I guess the job type of fisherman is more associated with the ocean then streams and such (at least to me)
Okay 🤔
the two dress ideas also mix pretty natrually when you're getting dressed
I am still here btw/paying attention to what you're saying/read what you have said so far
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might be worth checking out in:waywt from: narwhalspal and in:waywt from: artvandelayexporting
neither of them are from around here but both of them regularly put fits on that id consider to be within this category
lumberjack
fisherman
fisherman
etc
teenage gentleman as well
does stuff in this area once in awhile
They’re lying
if you want to explore this kind of stuff really just go through a lot of inspo- old catalogs, fits/posters you like, etc
a lot of the clothes you will want when we get to that will be mostly findable vintage but cool vintage stuff has never been easier to find and you're in the best place in the world to do so
Okay o7
Yeah I've been looking through old LL bean catalogs and stuff
I appreciate your explanation heavily
And everyone else's input as well
People can add on more ofc
I am just saying thank you 🙂
I spent 30 minutes typing in here trying and failing to say something like this so thank you for doing what I couldn't
am I tripping did I not just get @d (edit: nvm all good)
One is labor one is bourgeoisie smh
Your theory is failing you
almost everyone i know that fishes rivers recreationally i would classify as members of the proletariat
Fishing for pleasure or commerce?
I think there's a distinction in that one is fishing as labor and one is fishing as recreation
no youre right im just bein annoying
Even if yes they are both protetariat
I DID say this
sort of
I mean you can fish in the ocean recreationally but you kind of need a boat to get to deeper waters where the fish are
manresa is another brand worth checking - based in the northeast, leans towards workwear, still relatively new so not as stylized as ll bean or eddie bauer or other outdoor companies
They only make small yarmulkes
:xd:
Bro roots for the yankees
Calls himself from New England smh
Southern half of Connecticut is disavowed
i'm not like...claiming the style or anything but these sorta give the effect
but imo "northeast style" isn't about a hat it's about layering and textures
a barbour or other barn coat, a shetland or norwegian sweater, bright nylon jackets, plaid flannel, cords or duck cotton pants, wool hats and scarves etc
whats wrong with the yankees 😠
is this why no one is telling me what it looks like outside of the colder months lol
also yeah I think your outfits give the effect 🙂
@Smiles (shuttuahp 🏆) Please do not post the thing that I am thinking about
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im scared
Don’t worry about it
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It's just the Boston Red Sox and New York Yankees is probably the biggest rivalry in American sports
ohhhh LMFAO boston
generally I will root for anyone east coast if new york doesn't win but
Ya bro where do you think Boston is
Adapt
I'm gonna post it
I know where it is LOL I just didn't know why u were bashing the yankees
real talk it's mostly patagonia baggies, boat shoes or tevas/birks/boat shoes and whatever shirt you can find - a big ocbd, a t-shirt, etc
Ok I'm done
wait why are YOU hating on the yankees u have a NYC role
smh
it's complicated
Why the fuck do I have a new York role
Ok I'll get that fixed but
its your curse for hating new york
😈
I'm born and raised Massachusetts
:0
it's okay he's proven to be a useful member of society regardless
Thank you zeometer I appreciate you
weejawnz ig would be worth a follow; sometimes it veers ALD or take ivy but theres a lot of new england inspired stuff there
check for any fits on here from leisurelyloafing or squilleyferrell too
I tried
I will check them out
also I followed the insta account you named too
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Holy fuck LOL
The Providence Journal
Here's what quahogging used to look like in Rhode Island
Digging for clams has been both a pastime and a liveihood for generations of Rhode Islanders.
I know it's set in a fictional location but I believe it's supposed to be the NE so here are a bunch of photos from Jaws which I think fit pretty well as inspo
Google says it takes place on amity Island (which is fake) new york
So yeah north east
Woo
hi
cool spring and summer stuff/pictures from the brand zeometer was talking about, Manresa
they're cool pictures
(but blurry for some reason on my laptop)