Indefinite integration, trig integral manipulation

What's the thought process?
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iTeachChem Helper•4mo ago
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Cakey Bot
Cakey Bot•4mo ago
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The hint is given in the. Answer itself in the the answer of the integration so. If you start with. Take it to be one take M and N to be one and see if that works or take one of them to be minus one, which means. Eco do says it divided and then differentiate to see if you get a similar form. I think that should work.
Real potato
Real potato•4mo ago
One thing i can clearly see is that the derivative of cosx+xsinx is xcosx Maybe u can use some substitution
Dexter
Dexter•4mo ago
I won't say differentiate both sides or @Saul Goodman will hunt me down 😭
Opt
Opt•4mo ago
I dont have my phone to send a pic, so let me type out this mess in LaTex
stormycloud
stormycloud•4mo ago
Multiply and divide by -xcosx
Opt
Opt•4mo ago
Let a = xsin(x)+cos(x) and b = sin(x)-xcos(x) $$\implies da = xcos(x) dx and db = xsin(x) dx$$ $$(a)db = \left(x^{2}sin^{2}(x)+xcos(x)sin(x)\right)dx$$ $$(b)da = \left(x^{2}cos^{2}(x)+xcos(x)sin(x)\right)dx$$ $$a(db)-b(da) = x^{2}dx$$ $$I = \int\frac{a(db)-b(da)}{a^{2}}$$ $$I = \int d\left(\frac{a}{b}\right)$$ $$I = \frac{a}{b}+C$$
TeXit
TeXit•4mo ago
Opt
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Opt
Opt•4mo ago
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stormycloud
stormycloud•4mo ago
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Opt
Opt•4mo ago
,rotate
TeXit
TeXit•4mo ago
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Nimboi [ping if answering]
ah brilliant i'm really not sure you thought of that what's going on in your solution, can you clarify?
stormycloud
stormycloud•4mo ago
Bc in the denominator it is square of something so most likely it is u/v rule, so u diff that and u get -xcosx With that u multiply and divide so u can split it and do by parts That is it
Opt
Opt•4mo ago
What?
Nimboi [ping if answering]
how you thought of that* horrible typo 💀
Opt
Opt•4mo ago
Yeah, the meaning is very different.
Nimboi [ping if answering]
lmfao oh huh that's pretty cool no really, can you describe the thought process that lead to that led* why cant i type???
Opt
Opt•4mo ago
I differentiated the expressions. Realised there was some symmetry stuff going on. Multiplied them with each other. Cancelling terms appeared. Also there's a mistake there
Nimboi [ping if answering]
see when you put it like that it sounds simple
Opt
Opt•4mo ago
It's d(b/a) I'm crazy It's b/a +C Not a/b
Nimboi [ping if answering]
gotchu gotchu +solved @Opt @stormycloud
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•4mo ago
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