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Painstorming

- "Not convinced yet that I need google analytics or even a facebook pixel.. But also I'm not convinced I need any analytics for my site.”

- "Am I missing something BIG?”

- "Am I supposed to use analytics, of some kind? HotJar?”

- " I am stumped here... why should I know where people are coming to me from?"

Hidden Pain

> My main idea is that it's easier and simpler to build it without having to add in any cookie consent.

Managing cookies and private data correctly is a lot of work and also there is risk to still do it wrong. Pains are: Additional work and risk

> Convince me to install something... if anything.

I fear that I need to install something but I’m not sure what. But I need to do something as everybody else does it as well

Jargon

- HotJar

- acquisition plan

- VCs

- channel strategy

- growth strategy

- customer acquisition plan

Recommends / Buys

- On a basic level you should want to know if traffic is increasing

- On a basic level you should want to know if your homepage is converting

- On a basic level you should want to know where people are coming to you from

- You don't need cookie consent if you use a privacy friendly package like Plausible

- https://plausible.io/?ref=songbox-sent-me

- If the goal is to just survive as a Indie Hacker, you may not even care about those numbers as long as you get sales and money keeps coming in the bank. 

- You may not care if you had increase in traffic necessarily as long as you are making enough sales to keep you going as an IndieHacker (spirit of this site, right??)

- Analytics in the sense we are talking about is a very modern concept. Business exists since long before the advent of modern analytics

- By the way, a business can exist and even thrive without much of the

- These are all stuff the Silicon Valley companies invented to show their VCs that their company is valuable and on its way to billions. Most of the time, it is made up.

Worldviews

> Convince me to install something... if anything.

> Cash is king baby.

-> Everything needs to be optimised and money is the only metric which counts

> If you however are a funded startup with VC breathing down your neck OR you have investors in general OR you have big goals to grow fast in general, you better have analytics etc to really understand your traffic/user numbers and keep it as a bible.

-> When investment is there it gets real. You need to only think about such numbers everything else is irrelevant

> I don't mean to be rude here, but if you're "stumped" as to why you should know where people are coming from then... I don't really know what to say to that. I think this is one of those "if you have to ask then you'll never understand" situations.

-> There is nothing to explain about why you should do analytics when you don’t understand it then you don’t belong

> If you're trying to grow a business then you do need all the above.

-> A business is not real when you don’t have all these numbers. I need to have these numbers to be a serious business

> These are all stuff the Silicon Valley companies invented to show their VCs that their company is valuable and on its way to billions. Most of the time, it is made up. I don't personally enjoy kool-aid.

-> Analytics are just numbers and I don’t trust them

> You should install analytics on your site so that you have numbers to obsess over every day. It's like checking the stock market or the price of Bitcoin every morning: knowing the numbers won't

-> The raw data is not valuable when you don’t understand them. You can’t applied them without understanding.

Thread Link: https://www.indiehackers.com/post/convince-me-to-use-analytics-on-my-project-504a4182b9

“Convince me to use Analytics”

“New saas made”

“Already have 25 customers”

Not convinced ga of fp

Not convinced I need any analytics for my site

Am I missing something BIG

Hot Jar

“VC Breathing down your back”

Worldviews:

• “I think it’s one of those “if you have to ask you’ll never understand” situations” 

◦  People should be aware of things on a basic level and not have to ask

• “Explain why analytics without strategy is not vanity metrics”

◦ Doesn’t believe Analytics is valuable in general, only when paired with strategy

• “If there is none of that (channel, growth strategy, etc.), then why do you have a business”

◦ Businesses are all about growth

• “Analytics in the sense we are talking about is a modern concept”

• It can provide an edge “If you know what you are doing”

◦ You need to be educated in Analytics to benefit

• “Look at brick and mortar stores around you”

◦ Believes Tech/SV are misleading with analytics

• “I don’t personally enjoy koolaid”

◦ Thinks Tech/VC/SV is cultish

• “So you have numbers to obsess over every day”

• “Knowing the numbers won’t change what you do, but it’ll help convince you that you’re in control ;) ”

◦ Winks implies tongue in cheek

◦ Believes that the value of analytics is overvalued and mostly for psychological benefit

• Two sides of the discussion:

◦ Analytics are essential and helpful for a business’ growth

◦ Analytics are either a psychological crutch or a way to mislead investors