we're still working
[2023-04-12 04:56:00 PM] : we're still working on them with a small group of testers (Amy's variable health is part of why we don't promise specific timelines on these things). we hope to run a "live" introduction of the new stuff in the coming months if not sooner, and you'll get updates about all of that by email and here in the chat!
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[2023-04-12 04:58:20 PM] : glad to hear it's still happening. i feel for amy, must be tough.
[2023-04-12 04:58:43 PM] : i just remember a bunch of my questions from my last run actually were about "yeah but what about today"
[2023-04-12 04:59:16 PM] : anything i can do to join the test group?
[2023-04-12 04:59:53 PM] : > i just remember a bunch of my questions from my last run actually were about "yeah but what about today"
[2023-04-12 04:59:55 PM] : what do you mean?
[2023-04-12 05:38:56 PM] : for example it was stated a lot that you should go for forums and avoid all else. but today everything is in chats, facebook groups, whatever. and that update blog post showed a better approach to that, including todays mediums.
[2023-04-12 05:39:18 PM] : Who said avoid all else?
[2023-04-12 05:40:16 PM] : Our video examples are forums but our watering hole keywords specifically include chats, groups, anywhere that people gather online
[2023-04-12 05:41:23 PM] : okay, sure. i guess i'll come back to this once i get to that part. can't remember the exact place atm.
[2023-04-12 05:41:42 PM] : The core principals don't change when you go to another medium, and you can already apply what we show in the lessons to things that aren't forums. Our new lessons just show some additional tricks that are specific to certain tools, but not really new safari techniques.
[2023-04-12 05:42:02 PM] : yeah that's what i thought :smile:
[2023-04-12 05:42:30 PM] : The only watering holes we say to avoid is Stack overflow and Quora, because q&a sites are not good for conversations
[2023-04-12 05:43:06 PM] : yeah that's fine
[2023-04-12 05:44:15 PM] : But also remember - you don't need to do it perfectly to win. Don't get lost in the techniques, just do your best to implement and keep practicing and improving.
[2023-04-12 05:44:56 PM] : yeah for sure. one thing i reacted to i think was this screen
[2023-04-12 05:45:06 PM] : File hidden by Slack limit [File hidden by Slack limit]
[2023-04-12 05:45:07 PM] : and i was really hoping to see Notion by now :smile:
[2023-04-12 05:45:30 PM] : another thing that doesn't really change much, was just exited to see what you guys came up with
[2023-04-12 05:46:18 PM] : You can already use notion for safari, even if we don't. we're mostly gonna make a template because people won't shut up about it, not because its actually better!
[2023-04-12 05:46:32 PM] : lol
[2023-04-12 05:46:33 PM] : i see
[2023-04-12 05:46:41 PM] : then never mind :smile:
[2023-04-12 05:46:48 PM] : i don't actually like templates. i like my own flow.
[2023-04-12 05:46:57 PM] : never got what that movement was about
[2023-04-12 05:47:24 PM] : More distractions
[2023-04-12 05:48:28 PM] : Templates are great.
[2023-04-12 05:48:37 PM] : And if you think about ir
[2023-04-12 05:48:40 PM] : yeah. i guess i started thinking perhaps you invented a new productive method in notion. but in the past usually templates just kind of try to wrap me around the data rather than me wrapping the data how it makes sense to me.
[2023-04-12 05:49:14 PM] : "I never got what that movement was about" is something to investigate in yourself because it's exactly the thing that you could answer with safari instead of your own instincts and biasez.
[2023-04-12 05:49:41 PM] : Oof autocorrect
[2023-04-12 05:50:20 PM] : true. i just don't care about them so it would be hard to follow through.
[2023-04-12 05:50:56 PM] : I think you could take a step back and think about why that thought process is limiting you.
[2023-04-12 05:52:02 PM] : I'm not suggesting this for my health :wink:
[2023-04-12 05:55:27 PM] : i'm not sure i follow. i can understand not being able to get into something trendy can be bad for business (in theory), but overall i think one of the reasons i'm able to get anything done at all is because i say no to things that i used to push myself with. now i find what works for me
[2023-04-12 05:55:49 PM] : i'm not suggesting differently
[2023-04-12 05:58:13 PM] : you made some quick judgements about what someone else is doing, instead of asking yourself "why" they are doing it.
e.g. I don't care about Notion or templates personally, but I took the time to figure out why people DO care about them, and think about ways that knowledge could be useful to me.
[2023-04-12 05:58:39 PM] : focus for you is good
[2023-04-12 05:59:40 PM] : yeah that makes sense. and it's also true i never figured out why people like templates so much other than feel-good vs productive. although there are complex setups that make sense with templates. just rarely.
[2023-04-12 05:59:55 PM] : again, a judgement :wink:
[2023-04-12 06:00:03 PM] : got me there :smile:
[2023-04-12 06:00:18 PM] : i'm just calling out the patterns in your behavior that I see, that might not be obvious to you.
[2023-04-12 06:00:22 PM] : but i mean i don't care enough to go safari this thing :smile:
[2023-04-12 06:00:36 PM] : your loss!
[2023-04-12 06:01:24 PM] : hehe, i like your direction here. but (BUT!) it's not like anyone has time to safari every question ever. got to choose battles.
[2023-04-12 06:01:32 PM] : focus on your chosen audience, remember? :smile:
[2023-04-12 06:02:03 PM] : of course. i never said to safari every question either.
[2023-04-12 06:02:36 PM] : if notion templates come up in my travels with my current audience, i'll safari it. that much you probably did change my mind on actually.
[2023-04-12 06:02:49 PM] : it's possible i would have gotten stuck on this otherwise (if it came up)
[2023-04-12 06:03:01 PM] : and yeah there are other similar topics i imagine.
[2023-04-12 06:03:08 PM] : so thanks for taking the time just now :slightly_smiling_face:
[2023-04-12 06:04:20 PM] : yeah, just want to be clear that i'm not suggesting you safari Notion stuff, I don't want that to be the takeaway.
[2023-04-12 06:04:34 PM] : it's clear
[2023-04-12 06:04:38 PM] : okay good
[2023-04-12 06:04:40 PM] : :+1:
[2023-04-12 06:05:21 PM] : you just don't want me to NOT safari something that my audience is directing me towards - just because of a preconcieved notion (what a pun)
[2023-04-12 06:05:40 PM] : lol. correct.
[2023-04-12 06:06:06 PM] : good talk. off to bed. until next time!
[2023-04-12 06:06:17 PM] : g'nite!