I'm sure many of us
[2023-11-03 03:39:19 PM] : I'm sure many of us have this experience, while going through 30x500 we start to see examples of founders/friends/companies doing things backwards and suffering for it. I would love, truly love to help people ask the right questions and go back get a breath of fresh air into their business.
Does anyone here do this? Or do we know of companies that do this? I'd love to help people in this way and obviously need to go through the 30x500 process for this thought/idea myself, but trying to see if anyone has taken what they have learned in 30x500 to help out others with their companies. Fill in my gaps cause I know they are there :sweat_smile:
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[2023-11-03 10:55:15 PM] : So...here’s the thing. Most people doing things backwards won’t change the way they do it until it hurts bad enough to change. Teaching people who don’t actually think they’re doing something wrong is nearly impossible. this is a relatively universal human psychology, not specific to 30x500.
It's hard to see people struggling, and it's noble to want to help. But helping the willing and ready is a very different experience from trying to help people who aren't ready to admit that what they're doing isn't working. Ego death is hard. :woozy_face:
[2023-11-03 10:56:18 PM] : Amy and I have spent nearly 15 years teaching this stuff and the most consistent pattern is that people who don't actually want to change, don't. No matter what.
[2023-11-04 03:06:22 PM] : I completely understand. That should have been clear to me having asked this question in one form or another at various points. I suppose what is so inspiring right now is I have a group of people willing to listen and the feedback is valuable for them. I know though that this is uncommon.
One of the most difficult things I think about being me and for those like me is I find myself often saying, "I just want to help people" but most of the time I cannot point to what that looks like I only tend to recognize when it isn't happening.
I think the ego death thing also goes for me and going through the 30x500 process as someone who is so incredibly ready to walk away from the day job and just go all in, even though I don't have anything figured out yet, there is just this "things would be better" mentality.
All of this I am sure you've walked through before with others. The ebb and flow of 'purpose' or feeling like what I am doing is purposeful.
When I find something helpful I want to find everyone who can benefit but Im aware enough now to know everyone isn't an audience nor will most of them listen. That just always feels like another little death watching people walk straight off the metaphorical cliff.
[2023-11-04 03:12:52 PM] : you can always send them our way :smile:
[2023-11-04 04:00:55 PM] : I feel that's kinda what I am doing now haha. Giving them a little taste of it and then hopefully they will jump all in.
[2023-11-06 05:06:05 AM] : Ben Patton having a new perspective on something you've struggled with for ages, something meaningful too, and seeing/discovering the "solution" suddenly that you feel is really what you need and what your friends/peers need to see/adopt too, can be amazing ("Guys, check this...") and also frustrating ("Guys? No, you've not quite got it...") in my humble opinion!
There is so much content and advice that is counter to what we learn here that I've felt having conversations like this can seem like pushing water up hill. Even quoting numbers or whatever doesn't work as there is always someone else who's made millions in 30 seconds, "here is how they did it..."
If I was to summarise 30x500 simply, for me the philosophy is about taking a research first, rather than a idea first approach to building products and services. Everything else then layers on top of that fundamentally different ideology, with practical things you can do to enact it for yourself.
In my experience, having the discussion at that fundamental level - who is your audience, what do they need, want and buy, how do you know that (no, really know that?) - is normally enough to get my friends thinking... or glazing over!
Hope that helps a little to know I've been there too :slightly_smiling_face:
I'm not sure how far along you are yet, but when that first stranger writes to say "thanks for your help" I found it felt great. Sadly not everyday is like that (!) but its great when it happens. Good luck buddy #keeptruckin