Offline Mode

I'm thinking about putting my anarchy server into offline mode so more players can join. What's the best way to prevent players from logging in as someone else without having to enter a password and all that nonsense?
215 Replies
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
!offline
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
Essentially, you won't get any help for that here Security risks are great, and pirating is very frowned upon
Tamz
Tamz4mo ago
People unfortunately do help offline users, most dont but some do :YEP: I'm not one of the helpers
Snowz
Snowz4mo ago
Wow you are so sigma for saying that
Tamz
Tamz4mo ago
Thanks sir ping purposeful :moderator:
𝐁𝐢𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬
Not only won't get any help, iirc asking "how to become offline" was directly against the rules
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
you're making my tactic to discourage them from pirating less encouraging lol
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
if you dont know what you're doing you will damage your server, but here https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/authmereloaded.6269/ check the latest build
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
Auth Me reloaded will do, it basically makes players register with a password, there's really no other way of doing that with some kind of authentication fastlogin will add a magical /premium command for premium players so they don't have to login every time (yes, i call them premium players, deal with it)
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
y'all always act like babies when the topic of offline mode is mentioned
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
I mean, if you support pirating, that's on you
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
i absolutely do, specially with big shit companies like shitcrosoft :3
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
the game is like $30 usd 😭 but ok also cough
Do not promote piracy or any other illegal content.
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
yeah those $30 could mean the difference between having something to eat or starve but I guess for Americans $30 is nothing are you going to defend poor Microsoft? they must be so sad because someone didn't purchase the game
Tamz
Tamz4mo ago
but I guess for Americans $30 is nothing
Not all people its nothing, we might not be a 3rd world country but some places have it bad :pepe_shrug: No microsoft at certain points can go screw themselves, its too bad if they dont get someones measily $30's to play a game anyone can crack. But that doesnt really matter when the discord you are in doesnt want you to do piracy stuff/ suggest/ openly support it :YEP:
Eismeister
Eismeister4mo ago
yeah if you're gonna pirate, then pirate. don't try to cope with your premium player bs they aren't premium players, you're a pirate own it
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
well said I'm not defending them, but pirating is still pirating regardless
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
thats a lottttt in other countries premium players was the old mojang terminolgy as well
ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk4mo ago
ok, minecraft isnt a right tho just dont play mc
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Fr people are kinda acting like MC would be one of the two: you buy it with your 30$ OMG and then you starve OR you pirate it and feel so good about it or smth cuz you didn’t pay the 30$. Like wtf if you can’t afford it, don’t buy it. It’s like there’s nothing in between. You won’t just pirate EVERYTHING just because atm you don’t have the money to buy it
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
so in your logic, if i can't pay for it i shouldn't play it?
culture shouldn't be available only to those who pay for it
ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk4mo ago
play other games? runescape is free, its culture so is roblox minecraft has a demo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
you are crazy
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
sounds like you just can't dispute that argument tbh
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
culture shouldn't be available only to those who pay for it -# x2
ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk4mo ago
minecraft has a demo x2
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
then make your own free game
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
oh wow im going to enjoy everything minecraft for a few days of gameplay (mc days)
ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk4mo ago
you said culture you get that with the demo stop being a beggar and pay for what you use
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
not really but whatever
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
never, free is better and i did pay for it WHEN I COULD
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ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk4mo ago
you are not everyone
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
ask anyone
ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk4mo ago
99% of people wont, literally one of the reasons people buy ranks on offlinemode as said by players
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
$5 rank vs $30 game and what do you get with buying the game? access to premium servers and 1 month free of realms?? btw fun fact: minecraft doesn't have any anti piracy measures (except bedrock)
Tamz
Tamz4mo ago
$5 rank? Where the hell are you playing, most places have up to $170 ranks that are also Offline mode. What do you get with the game when buying it You can play modded mc without a risk of getting a virus, play with your friends without having to worry what 2b2t arse will raid ur server since its offline mode You can get developer support for modded + plugins You can play on Wyncraft now, dont be rash. we dont talk about bedrock, it sucks
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
find someone that has paid more than the game and doesn't have a mc account if that happens i would assume is someone that really enjoyed the server as a non premium account
Tamz
Tamz4mo ago
find any p2w cracked server and you will get your answer but tbf this argument is pointless, you are going to keep finding loop holes or examples of cracked being on whatever side you believe it. Its just how the internet works. My last argument is, you had to buy an account for prism before you can use cracked :Troll:
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
fuck all p2w-centered servers prism was and still is foss so anyone could do it + anyone can make their own .bat and get the mc files directly from mojang without any authentication
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
that's still pirating why is it so hard to just pay $30 for a game then you don't have more security vulnerabilities and you don't need to worry about malware
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
as far as i know theres no malware on prism and vulnerabilities recall on mojang to fix them not everyone is from school shootings states of america] xD
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
your point is?
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
not everyone can pay or even access payment methods that can be used on the internet + most people that pirate minecraft do end up buying the game ^ WHEN THEY CAN
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
smh
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
stop assuming absolutely everyone can pay for it
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
i'm not but if you can't pay for it then don't playing minecraft isn't a right
TurboVadim
TurboVadim4mo ago
Yeah, that's the main issue in my country. You're unable to pay
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Absolutely, if you can’t afford it, you can’t play it, that’s it That is like stealing a car cuz you can’t actually afford to buy one
ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk4mo ago
Immm... Danish?
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
huh? no
Tamz
Tamz4mo ago
costa rica
ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk4mo ago
you tried saying only Americans can afford mc
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
i didn't most people in 1st world countries
Tamz
Tamz4mo ago
^
For Americans $30 is nothing
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
thanks for changing the topic
Tamz
Tamz4mo ago
the thread was far derailed at that point to be honest
ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk4mo ago
Nice reddit post lmao
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
genuinely curious, how many people here have paid the full 260EUR (in 🇺🇸 it's $200) for windows 11 (pro) and no, the shady $2 keys that are stolen or generated without microsoft's consent don't count because if you haven't and are here, then i can very much say "using windows is not a right, if you cant afford it dont use a computer" and, even if you bought a license indirectly (laptops with oem licenses) unless you're using that laptop right now, what you're doing is still piracy (i'm not really trying to justify the piracy side of things, im talking just about the double standard)
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
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ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk4mo ago
came with my laptop, thats what im using on my laptop and my main desktop is windows 10 that i got with it
Snow Kit
Snow Kit4mo ago
My desktop was activated by a windows 7 pro key off the bottom of an HP elitebook that ended up in electronic recycling
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
You Wouldn't Steal a Car
"You Wouldn't Steal a Car" is the first sentence and commonly used name of a public service announcement that debuted on July 12, 2004 in cinemas, and July 27 on home media, which was part of the anti-copyright infringement campaign "Piracy. It's a crime." It was a co-production between the Federation Against Copyright Theft and the Motion Pictu...
𝐁𝐢𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬
The thing is that is a bit hard to explain piracy to people around the world In my country for example is not only not illegal, is even part of our culture, how are you going to explain to someone that is bad when their parents, friends, teachers, even government uses pirated content? If you want to explain the guy why they shouldn’t support piracy, you’ll need to explain it in their terms, otherwise they won’t listen I, for example, take the security route, or supporting the creators route, but has its flaws If the person knows how to crack software themselves and the creator is a big tech, they won’t listen again :idk:
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
technically not allowed
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
keep in mind you're comparing a 30 dollar game (that can be installed on many computers if you use the same account) to a 200 dollar license key (that can only be installed on one machine) that is not an apple to apple comparison
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
its still piracy? agree where i live its also literally impossible to buy minecraft lol, along with it being unaffordable (the opportunity cost) what are those ppl supposed to do when they want to get the game officially
Eismeister
Eismeister4mo ago
at the very least own up to being a pirate instead of coping and using soft language to avoid having to say it
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Yeah that was like 60% what I was referring to lmao
𝐁𝐢𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬
Regardless, just leave it as is not allowed to promote piracy, or asking how to go pirate in this discord :based:
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
Imagine wasting money on Windows 11
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
piracy is illegal using windows is not a right if you don't have money for it, don't use it
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
lmao you guys are funny
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
Fair enough I'm not saying your idea is wrong
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
imagine paying $200 for an OS that shows ads, spies on you and sells your data
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
it becomes funny once you realize i'm saying the same thing you are
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
or downgrading to Windows 11 oh btw if buying isn't owning piracy isn't theft
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
elaborate on that I'm curious where that statement came from
𝐁𝐢𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬
its a popular statement to support piracy that i think originated in the sacred lands of twitter who says it isn't owning, you're owning a copy :moderator:
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
licensing* I need mojang's propietary launcher and internet connection to play (after some days offline the launcher will force try to "update") and with Windows, if it can't reach Shitcrosoft servers guess what WINDOWS ISN'T ACTIVATED GO TO SETTINGS TO ACTIVATE WINDOWS a Windows iso and MAS is the only way of using Windows without permission from mommy and daddy (Microsoft)
𝐁𝐢𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬
Welcome to the real world my guy, electricity isn't going to pay itself
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
and.. Minecraft is quite a silly topic since you might need to make your own bat or a portable copy see? I don't own it im just licensing it a good example of owning a game would be physical media like switch cartridges (that do have the whole game) or blu rays (that do have the whole game) same with media like movies if go "buy" a movie from Google TV I need Google's permission to play it even if I "downloaded" it
𝐁𝐢𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬
What are you going to do with the game cartridge tho, it's the same And piracy has existed since before this licensing stuff For movies, they just copy the content of the cd/dvd, same for games that came in that format
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
Once you activate you never need a network connection again, and you don't even need a network connection to activate, I think you can still activate windows 10 over the phone
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Well 1. use unactivated Windows and you can still use like 99% of functionality (like playing Minecraft) 2. Use a free OS (Linux on top) 3. there are like tons of other ways to own/use a computer without paying money on smth like a windows copy Yeah I was also like „Huh since when does using Windows need constant internet“
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
It doesn't, I've gone weeks without it ever connecting to a network And months even
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
after whatever amount of years I was talking about first instalation
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
And you have proof of that?
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
not constant usage im not buying a laptop and waiting a few years to prove it
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
Then don't say something that you don't have proof of Simple
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Pretty sure you don’t 100% need a connection to activate it but here I might be wrong
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
how does it reach shitcrosoft servers then? (UNLESS is an oem machine)
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
As I said I don’t know if that is actually true and tbh I couldn’t tell you how right now But I think it’s possible
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
I don't know exactly how phone activation works, but you don't need network access to activate via telephone
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
if you type the product key on setup it goes into a limbo state not activated but not unactivated either phone activation is fun and still is available on windows to this day you just call a number and talk to a deaf robot and how do you justify minecraft without internet connection? to open the game
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Huh You can play Minecraft without internet Wtf
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
You kinda need internet to log in? But after that it's fine
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
for some days
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
No forever lol
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
yes you can open the launcher and run mc
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Just no Mp
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
but after a couple of days the launcher will try to update the game
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Yes and fail
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
for windows pro versions you need an account iirc
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
And then nothing
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
that requires a wifi connection
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
if it can't update guess what minectaft doesn't open
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
Like a ms account?
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
no you don't
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
yes, you cant do a local account without heavy work arounds
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
just use the Microsoft script to setup a local account
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
I mean, just flash the installer with Rufus and disable the online account requirement
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
bypass nro OR bypass nro manually (3 commands)
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
Takes me about an extra 15 mins
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
im not saying you cant do it
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
Rufus or unattended instalation will do just fine
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
im saying that its a work around, not supported by ms i have a local account setup on my windows installation myself
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
they just want your data to sell it and show more ads
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Well obviously you can’t use the latest version cuz it has to download it but you can just use any installation forever without internet
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
that's the kind of experience I would expect from a free OS not a $200 OS
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
isnt that specific to the default mc launcher.
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
you can not again, after a few days Minecraft will not open if the launcher can't update doesn't matter the version 1.8 1.12 1.21
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
are you talking about this
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Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
or are you talking about a minor version update to minecraft because for me it launches as you can see
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
no, when the launcher is already open
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
If you aren’t connected to a WiFi network for example it will show a „Play offline“ button. Launching the game DOES NOT require internet, not even after idk 3 months, you just can’t play Servers n shit
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
what
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
when you click "play"
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
IT DOES NOT NEED WIFI
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
I am aware but after a few days it will fail to update even when it shows "play offline"
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
i haven't launched the mc launcher in months, closed my wifi, launched it, clicked play, worked fine it just says "Play offline" and "unable to verify if you own the game" i also cancelled the launcher update (by not having wifi on) ^
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Exactly Yes
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
im not sure if this is somehow a windows xbox launcher quirk the guy experienced but i've never experienced this on mac
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
mac ew at least thats my experience on windows 10 ltsc latest and Linux both official launcher that's one of the many reasons I use prism launcher
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
i use prism launcher as well, and literally none of your criticisms against mc work when you're using prism lmao
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
I just use Modrinth lol
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
regardless of how valid they are modrinth is also pretty good
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
ads and lack of support for other mod providers at least prism let's you download from curse and modrinth
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
And on my crappy Mac shitbox I just have normal launcher cuz there’s no other launcher that still works on there, it’s old
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
other launchers would still work
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
prism is on mac too 😐 idk silicon macs
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Tf you can drag any mod in and it works, that’s how I got Litematica installed in the first place, that was back when it wasn’t on Modrinth yet
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
many of the prism devs are macbook users, had to debug some app sandbox stuff at some point as well for them
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
I tried None of them run
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
btw, for some reason bedrock doesn't have the issues I mentioned but.. bedrock ew
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Or even install in the first place
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
wdym by none
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Like, my Mac is incapable of running them They don’t Open
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
like which one did you try
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Or Crash
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
how old is your mac lmao?
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
even works on intel macs
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Forge Modrinth TLauncher (ik it is scummy don’t need to tell me I was dumb back then) and some others
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
idk install using Brew?
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Early 2014 😭
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
try opencorepatcher to update it if thats possibly the issue my 2017 iMac runs prism and the mc launcher too
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Tbh I didn’t really try much after that, cuz the default launcher still works and that’s all I need
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
bootcamp that shit and get Linux i don't think you'll even get any updates
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
OpenCore Legacy Patcher
Experience macOS just like before
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
but i would agree with linux if you dont mind it
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
I think there are distros just made for mac
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
I would be able to get an update from 10.13 (current) to like 10.14 but it isn’t able to update cuz it’s too shit LMAO Yeah yeah tbh I love Linux and I’d switch whenever I would get my first chance
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
then do it i got more linux enviornments than macos atp tbh shouldn't be much of an issue if you're familiar with any modern operating systems, helps if you're friendly with the terminal
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
I’ve said this multiple times but as soon as compatibility is no longer a problem, all games run on Linux like they do on Windows and fricking companies like Adobe finally port their f-ing apps to Linux, I am ditching Windows INSTANTLY!! Windows is bad in Like 8/10 ways
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
search for protondb the only games that don't run are kernel anti cheat games
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Proton sucks
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
for macs
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
I’ve tried
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
of course for anything else is perfect i got minecraft bedrock developer running on Linux thanks to proton
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Yeah I’ve got a fewww games that can run that way but like 80% of games still don’t run/don’t even boot
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
if you're playing on a mac don't expect stuff to work gta 6 will be released when a mac can play games
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Nah was on my old PC, running Mint Now don’t hate me for using Mint
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
pentium? why would I? Mint is perfect for people that try it for the first time I use arch, btw
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Idk I feel like many people hate distros like Ununtu or Mint cuz they aren’t Linux-y enough
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
I always suggest Fedora, Ubuntu or Mint for new Linux users
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Yeah it actually was my first distro
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
that's the stereotype of the Linux community
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Ok I might be dumb but what’s that?
Swift
Swift4mo ago
This is so off topic now xD Move to general guys
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Yeah you are right Lmao this started with someone asking about putting their server in offline mode
Swift
Swift4mo ago
Of offtopic
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Tbh off topic
Swift
Swift4mo ago
Thats my point xD
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
running through crossover its great codeweavers who make crossover also work on proton btw
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
use unactivated Windows
stop promoting piracy
Schroedes
Schroedes4mo ago
someone really needs to delete this thread
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
the double standard for some people is crazy
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Tf since when is using unactivated Windows pirating?? That is in no way pirating You miss out on some features but don’t have to pay for a license
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
it is against the license terms of windows iirc
Das_Grosse_J
Das_Grosse_J4mo ago
Yeah but that is an option they give you?
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
no technically, the "grace period" isnt even legal either (they removed that too actually, TIL)
You are authorized to use the software only if you are properly licensed and the software has been properly activated with a genuine product key or by other authorized method.
they "give you the option" because softlocking a device wouldn't be a smart idea for multiple reasons legally, to use windows, you MUST pay unactivated windows is illegal
Cubicake
Cubicake4mo ago
imo if they don't have payment options set up to charge you, piracy is ethical But also I am a pirate in general I pirated windows and I pirate movies. tbh I can't tell you why I deem those acceptable but not pirating minecraft
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
yes, you are renting it you are correct that it isn't theft because you never owned it in the first place, the company just gave you the right to use their copy because theyre "nice" thats how modern licensing works it's very shady but that's how it is
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
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Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
thats what im against
Cubicake
Cubicake4mo ago
Actually, I've had a think about my personal ethics and here's my thought: It is not ethical (or legal) but still acceptable (to me) to pirate minecraft to play locally BUT A minecraft network being cracked is deeply unethical as they will make money off of their players, and therefore the players have money to pay and mojang should be paid for developing the game.
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
if you havent paid the full $200 for windows 11 then you can't just go and say "piracy bad!!!" thats just being a 🤡
Cubicake
Cubicake4mo ago
yeah so I've rethought my stance Cracked networks are bad
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
piracy is illegal, and its completely normal for a discord server to not allow discussion of piracy
Cubicake
Cubicake4mo ago
yes, that is also true
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
but it just becomes a 🤡 moment when you come here and say "dont pirate minecraft" when youve been pirating windows for 10 years (its from the same company too)
Cubicake
Cubicake4mo ago
discussion of piracy being banned here is valid
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
for me the double standard is the problem
Cubicake
Cubicake4mo ago
Humans are deeply irrational and illogical, no matter how much we think we are
Snow Kit
Snow Kit4mo ago
I mean, most prebuilt machines come with a windows license only really applies to windows pro or people who built their own pc
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
i mean, sure but "i bought an oem license with my laptop 2 years ago, as such, it is ethical for me to pirate windows on my desktop since it's the same license" is technically piracy
Snow Kit
Snow Kit4mo ago
I mean, the fact is, if I sign into a microsoft account on that laptop, install windows on the desktop with an iso I downloaded directly from microsoft, then sign into the same microsoft account on the desktop, then microsoft will activate the desktop so I'd agree that windows "piracy" was the same as minecraft "piracy" only if the minecraft launcher had a button that said "I don't have an account" and then it would let you play the game anyways and just had a watermark that said "minecraft not activated"
Game_Time
Game_Time4mo ago
not activated windows is still not allowed, so there is no difference thats still piracy
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
legally, it is the same thing if its an oem key that wont work retail keys are different
Snow Kit
Snow Kit4mo ago
it can sometimes
Jenkins
Jenkins4mo ago
(it will work, but its not allowed)
! Sullens :3
! Sullens :34mo ago
minecraft files can be downloaded directly from mojang without any type of authentication or required to prove you bought the game with them you can just, run the game theoretically, its not piracy
Discount Milk
Discount Milk4mo ago
Does it count if I'm using an original windows xp key from 2001, that I've upgraded as per their terms for the last 25 years?
Laupolio
Laupolio4mo ago
Never pay for Windows outside of work Gray market keys are more ridiculous than MAS imo Anyway, this thread should probably be locked given the admincraft classic of 300+ messages arguing over fuck knows what

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