I got banned for using "third-party tools "
i just got banned after reinstalling a new fresh windows 11 install, i spent around 4-5h playing valorant after reinstalling windows, turned off my pc, woke up next morning, with the Perminant Suspension screen on Riot. And I have no way of cheating, hacking, or even trying to on valorant, I have started playing valorant from EP6 till now on that account, and never got banned for cheating/third party apps or anything like that.
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I honestly want to know if i have something on my PC that would interfere with vanguard because i just installed a fresh windows 11
i have 3.1k hours of valorant over all
and 600 hours on aimtrainers
and i've spent more than 3k dollars on valorant skins
so i really wish someone could help me addressing/resolving this issue
Also:
I have more footage of me playing valorant
I have same problem bro, today i got false permabanned, spent over 1k β¬ in skins and playtime more then 900 hours, 1.1kd on immortal 1, normal stats. Idk
i don't know what happened
i woke up literally got banned for no reason, and contacted support they just close the ticket
no classification of what's going/what triggered vanguard
or anything like that
I was afk in lobby for 5 hours today and i got suddenly logged out and permabanned
custom curve pro could potentially be the issue but i havent heard issues with things like rawaccel
i've been using it for 2 years
Custom curve dont give u advantage
exactly
it's like raw accel
but better version
Mouse accel
Nothing more
it gives you freedom of changing the curve as you want
didn't say it does
but it does hook into your mouse inputs
Thats crazy how much ppls got banned today for βfalseβ
i mean yes it does
but i have raw input on
Are u sure they not have bug in ac today or smth?
in valorant
i have no clue tbf
how many people do you think are people saying they got false banned but installed cheats?
Idk
But
Mno
Okay to be fair, i have seen people who got banned and they're cheating clearly from stats/gameplay
there could be people who are false banned but there's a good chance most of the people saying they got false banned are people who cheated and regretted it
Idk but yk who gonna use cheats on acc where is spent more then 1k β¬ and active playtime over 3 years with normal stats
Thats not okay
yeah that's true i cannot deny that, but there's a good chance that something triggered vanguard
and that's what im trying to address
like falsely triggered it
Okay thats the reason why i said in ticket i can give them everything they want like evidence for proof my self im not cheating and im not using any 3rd softwares tho
they usually have all the proof they need from your vanguard report
even if they didn't, you sending them evidence wouldn't help. you could easily alter your own evidence
Thats crazy
So ur telling
I throw 1k β¬ and 3 years of playtime and grind to trash rn?
Or what
Idk what to do too
i would recommend seeing if your account got hacked
well i am pretty sure that vanguard can make mistakes
i've seen a friend who got banned
for having valorant tracker...
like 4 months ago
do you know for sure it was because of valorant tracker?
Yes i saw someone played 7 days ago like 6 games on my account, after i saw that i logged out everywhere and no one played there after that. I said that in ticket tho
that would help you
But i dont know if the guy who logged into my acc cheated or no
well i will say it's 90% what triggered valorant tracker, because he was playing valorant for 3 years, he never cheated, he played legit, his stats were shit too
I hope, but i didnt got any 2 step verification code for log in or smth like that the day he played these game
I saw that next day
i believe that some footage of you playing
would help
i have a friend who got banned for queuing with their friend because it turns out that friend was cheating every time they played with him but didn't tell him.
I have some Clips
well im 100% sure he wasn't cheating because he was actually shit at his rank
like he was immo2
but he was actually going negative almost every game
U think staff here is better option to solve this with him then support on website ?
most cheaters don't blatantly cheat. that's just an instant ban, which they'd only risk because they enjoy the act of cheating.
most people cheat to get an edge. they're cheats are insanely subtle.
hinted by the name #community-help is mainly community help. there are valorant staff here but i'm not sure how much they can do for you.
i mean if he's trying to at least cheat, he would've gotten better games/better stats
I have forum too
they usually can just tell you the status of your account
But i dont know what the guys who logged into my acc used on my acc yk, so i hope i got unbanned
basically logs
some cheaters often play bad games as a way to prove they werent cheating
as long as they have a positive winrate, it's fine by them
Yeah
system logging every ip uses the account i believe
I hope they have some logs of logins
Like ip adress or smth
uhhh for 3 years?
Beacuse they can see it wasnt me
of course they do
So it can save me no?
but tbf i really wished if valorant had some kind of overwatch's security system
i never said your friend was cheating for three years (in this hypothetical scenario where they cheated). they could've installed them like a month ago
Beacuse they can see i wasnt played on the account
well vanguard should've caught it off guard? while the cheats were installed for a whole month?
i hope they get us unbanned
Pls
i legit told them i can give proof of everything, footage of me playing
because i wanna address the issue
vanguard doesn't ban cheaters immediately when they get cheats. they stagger the ban times so cheat developers can't reverse-engineer Vanguard
Well then they should tell you what triggered vanguard
I reported 3 cheaters like in last week and i got banned for cheating lol
@Danecekk don't put your hopes all way up
this is community help
not support help
Yeah yk but im stressed
im just saying
again, that throws the potential for reverse-engineering.
Yeah alr
well let's say a support replied to me saying that " specefied program.exe " that's the one that triggered vanguard
i would 100% uninstall it after i show them and prove to them that's 100% safe
you know the word.exe incident? just the name of the program isn't evidence
They can tell what process in program did it
Not that hard
what's the word.exe incident?
the cs one?
yes
well im not talking about the name of the program
im talking about the program itself
if they communicate with me, to address the issue where it's coming from, i would 100% help them
i would 100% prove that it's not as triggering as vanguard said
so we both can work on improving how vanguard works
because i believe in " nothing is perfect "
pretty sure vanguard reports the processes/program that flagged you and I wouldn't be surprised if it gave them information on the original executable
so vanguard isn't meant to be perfect
i mean i've never had anyone i know get banned for cheating. i only had one friend who was banned for queuing with their friend who was cheating without them knowing.
i mean i have seen that personally happening to a friend of mine who used to stream alot
she sent every VOD she had of the guy
while he was cheating and potentially smurfing
she did not know, but when i saw my VOD myself, i recognized the patterns of a cheater
1 round go ace, 1 round 0 kills and peeking so randomly
that's me when i overheat
they have a pattern
they would always push specefic site
that has no one for example
or peek so randomly on their own
and somehow manage to kill 3 people
every cheater has a pattern
this is the friend you were talking about or someone your friend found in a comp game?
that's a random my friend played with
like 4-5 games
she got banned for " boosting "
because it turned out that he's bought an alt from a random website
and cheated on it..
was it a permaban? cuz i would expect maybe like 6 months or a year
that can happen by pure coincidence but it's extremely hard to differentiate between 2 people trying their hardest to get in the same game to boost and 2 people just happening to be in the same game many times.
they were basically queuing in the same lobby
plus it was a 8 months
ban
or 6
as i recall
6 months ban is queuing with cheaters ban
yea that's what they said
Oh
yeah it was a 6 months ban
like i said i had a friend who was banned for queuing with their friend because their friend was cheating but they didn't know
not exactly the same situation but you can get insanely unlucky
that's not a vanguard issue, though
i mean i totally understand that's not a vanguard issue
but vanguard can make mistakes as well
do you know if i can send any Twitch VODs in here?
i haven't heard of legitimate false positives personally. I don't doubt they happen but i imagine they're rare enough to justify vanguard
you should be able to. you were able to send a link to your tracker
i don't know why
but it doesn't let me send the VOD here
it's alright
i just typed the link
can i use a link shortner then?
or would it bne too sussy to check?
it's alright you dont have to
can you tell me which map or who i should be focusing on
me, i am always playing reyna
oh i thought this was the VOD of the cheater mb
oh no
it wasn't
it's a 2 hours footage of me playing
and i have more on my pc though
but that's the latest
i mean yeah a twitch vod can help show you're not cheating, but there's still many ways that doesn't validate you.
there's been many cases of streamers cheating in games and unless they make a mistake, it's unlikely you'll know.
most cheaters aren't dumb enough to stream their games tho. however, they could also just stream while their not cheating and cheat off stream.
i'm not saying this is what you did, but a twitch VOD can't really help you. the most it tells us is the chunk of time in which it's very likely you didn't cheat.
i have over +10 hours of me playing on my pc
and i can prove im not cheating
right, but the same logic applies. that just proves there's 10+ hours of you not cheating.
you can't use footage to prove the absence of cheating. you can only really use footage to prove the presence of cheating.
well i can also prove im not cheating, through logs, VODs, Stats
wait could it be dnsjumper that triggered vanguard
the app that finds the best/fastest dns for you
never heard of that program, but judging from the name, probably not
people change their dns all the time. it's not necessarily a sign of cheating
well im out of options and assumptions of what could falsely trigger vanguard
i've had tons of sketchy programs on my computer but i haven't had any indications of being flagged for cheating
define sketchy programs/gimme examples
i've had cheat engine on my computer
it's the default installation and riot is pretty aware that it's somewhat common. so they just stop you from launching valorant if it's open or they stop you from opening cheat engine if valorant is open
it's also insanely rare for cheat engine to be able to cheat on a multiplayer game, even ones without an anticheat
cheat engine is really only used for hacking singleplayer games or reverse engineering.
wow
granted, there are better programs for reverse engineering. cheat engine is just the easiest
true
if a multiplayer game can be cheated with cheat engine, it's likely that it's a P2P game with no anticheat.
oh
makes more sense
vanguard should only flag programs that either do something suspicious to the game or contain instructions that are indicative of being a cheat.
can someone tldr, and let me know on what they need.
mb for filling up the chat
first message
i dont think that's it
tbf i don't know what it means
i have no clue ngl
i think it's basically a way to have cheats on a device undetectable by your computer
that's it?
no
you can look up hptt website and you'll get some information on what it is
idk what it is but it's related to security
well you can but you can also definitely try to appeal it
they can't differentiate whether it's you playing or not. if there's cheating on your account, there's cheating on your account
vpn
forgot about that.
technically yeah they can track that but i'm pretty sure hwid spoofers exist.
your hwid would also obviously change if you played on a different computer, which many people do, so it's not an indication of malicious activity
and it's very possible for someone who's played on the same computer for the last 3 years to get a new computer.
they wouldn't be able to tell the difference
if you're on a different computer, you have a different hwid and usually a different ip address
I'm just telling you
vanguard cannot tell the difference between someone playing on someone's account and someone changing computers
keep trying the support system. if they made their verdict here, they're not gonna help you.
well your vanguard report said you did according to the staff.
you telling them you didn't cheat isn't proof of you not cheating
sorry for filling up the chat
pretty hard to prove you don't cheat when it's incredibly easy to remove all evidence of cheating.
the best way to avoid the potential of a false positive is to have good security. they can't do anything about someone playing on your account.
no you were rightfully banned
first message again
no it was 2 days ago, when you asked someone to boost your account. They used HPTT and got it banned, in eithercase both will result in a permanent ban
yeaaa sure
may i ask what's HPTT
some DMA
Ong
computer security thing
eitherway theres more than enough proof to justify that, just that I cant share it. So it will stay banned no matter what
sorry cant help
π
so
was he playing on your account or were you queued with him? not that these details matter, i'm just trying to grasp the story
he played on his acc
i think he shared his account with his friend
so
yeah
After long time
blame your friend for cheating on your account. nothing to do with riot
@dyres ill dm you
thank you so much!
imagine it from a moderator's standpoint
"Yes there was cheating on my account but, your honor, it wasn't me"
so many things weird about that
1. why didn't you let give your friend's account to him?
2. just play unrated, get a 5-stack, or (not condoning this) make a new account and be patient with leveling it up.
ok but punishment isn't primarily determined by intent. it's by action. there was cheating on your account. you got punished
sorry theres nothing I or anyone else can do for this