Instability in some games

Warframe crashes after an undeterminable ammount of time pretty consistently (30m to a few hours), Oblivion cant even display the title screen. As soon as it happens the screen freezes, sound works for 10-20s in the background (can still hear game or YT video) then either full crash and I have to hard reset or return to login screen. This is a somewhat recent thing, played both games abt a month ago flawlessly, Elden Ring for example still runs perfectly. (all running via proton) Im using the current version of bazzite. Hardware are 9070xt, 5900x and 32gb of RAM, GPU is slightly undervolted (using lact) Does not seem to relate to GPU hardware, tried both stock and a heavy underclock both on GPU and VRAM with no difference in result. I do not know how to get any relevant logs, any help/tips would be appreciated.
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icytux
icytux2mo ago
Did you try different versions of proton? I believe steam defaults to experimental ,could try proton 10 and 9 for the unstable games
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
Ive been running on 9 for most of my games, tried both hotfix and experimental with no change
biebel
biebel2mo ago
Use protonup or protonplus to add proton GE to steam, restart steam and try with that proton (10-10 rn). Disable any undervolt while experimenting. Every game behaves differently to undervolting. I have an almost identical setup and for me an uv of -60 is rock steady on all games, but -65 crashed oblivion for me.
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
I did exactly as requested, same result: game starts, the exact frame the cursor changes to the ingame one there is a freeze frame, then ~20s later a garbled mess on the 2nd screen (I assume that is the mesa driver having a horrible time) then after a bit back to the login screen
biebel
biebel2mo ago
After it happens do journalctl -b -0 -r to see the logs of the current boot in reversed order. If you need to reboot after the crash, do -1 instead of -0 to see the ones of the previous boot. There should be an indication of what goes wrong there.
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
I dont think the system reboots, I do not have to put in my encryption key for the SSD, it just directly goes to the login Can I dump the output into a file?
biebel
biebel2mo ago
Oh, and if you have a curve optimiser setting, you may need to tone it down a bit. I had to reduce from -25 to -20 after upgrading from the 5700xt to the 9070xt. if you add | fpaste you'll upload it to a pastebin and get the link to that or you can add > textfile.txt to export to a file
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
I went to stock for now, all except the fan profile (I dont care much for silence, I prefer a cool GPU)
biebel
biebel2mo ago
xwayland seems to shit the bed there for some weird reason. Try running it with proton ge 10-10 and the launch argument PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 %command% to run it in a wayland seesion
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
I hope this one is not too cluttered, I had yt open on the other screen, I can repeat if you cant make sense of it It started to display particles this time, but still crashed <1s after
biebel
biebel2mo ago
Weird. It seems to start with xwayland shitting the bed (coredumping) at line 1879 and after that everything starts to follow. Consider running a memtest overnight to rule that out. I see some selinux errors too early in the boot, but I'm pretty clueless about selinux.
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
Will do, will update this tomorrow then. Ty for your help so far ❤️
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
Seems super stable during memtest
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biebel
biebel2mo ago
Yeah. Good that it's not your memory. I have no idea why your xwayland and plasma shit the bed though :(. Is it the og oblivion or the remastered one?
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
Remastered.
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
any themes?
biebel
biebel2mo ago
I have that one set on proton ge 9-27 and use gamscope to launch
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
I dont think I understand, could you elaborate?
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
kde themes
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
I think my install is pretty vanilla, iirc the only thing I changed was the wallpaper seems like the one in use is called "Vapor"
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
that's fine vapor is what's shipped with bazzite
biebel
biebel2mo ago
This is my launch argument for it using proton ge 9-27: gamescope -f --hdr-enabled -h 2160 --mangoapp -- %command% . Might need to set a different resolution of course and leave out the hdr and mangoapp flags if you don't use or want it.
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
you might want to use scb instead my wild guess is steam's overlay try testing with it off
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
I tried with the arguments gamescope -f -h 1440 -- %command% under GE 10-10
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
I disabled that yesterday already, sorry if I didnt communicate that
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
hmmm replace gamescope with scb and see if it does the same thing (it probably will) scb just manages environment variables for gamescope with some other nice additions
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
as you predicted, same outcome
biebel
biebel2mo ago
Runs fine for me on 10-10 too. The only major difference between our rigs seems to be that I only have one monitor.
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
You have lact installed?
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
that is one of my worries, I heard multi monitor can be funky sometimes I have the LACT version from the bazar installed
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
Assuming you didn't uninstall it and just reverted stock settings in lact
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
yes
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
try
systemctl disable lactd
systemctl disable lactd
and see if it does the same thing run this in a terminal if you are not aware
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
Thank you, same result tho Im gonna try unplugging one monitor for my own sanity
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
ah yeah try unplugging one monitor
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
Did a full reboot w only one monitor, same result
biebel
biebel2mo ago
Sanity check time: You're running off a btrfs or ext4 drive and have verified the files in steam?
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
the system drive (1TB sabrent SSD) is btrfs, oblivion is on a seperate steam drive (1TB sabrent SSD) in ext4 yes I verified without problems in steam
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
tbf the game would probably not launch if it wasn't btrfs or ext4 not crash the system like here maybe try just deleting the wine prefix and let steam do its thing?
biebel
biebel2mo ago
Yeah, I know, but just wanted to make sure. It's so weird to have such different outcomes on similar hw
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
where do I find the oblivion prefix?
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
ah just run protontricks from the app menu select the game and delete all data in the prefix just make sure if your game has saves that they are backed up you shouldn't have to redownload the game, since the game doesn't live in the prefix if you are done, restart steam and let steam do its thing and see what happens
Glitch
Glitch2mo ago
for game issues you shold always check protondb before asking here
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
that is not the only game that crashes, just an example
Glitch
Glitch2mo ago
some games just dont work well on bazzite or need some tweaking to work
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
obvlivion is rated gold on protondb it should just work
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
it did work like a month ago flawlessly too
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
and biebel's oblivion works too
Glitch
Glitch2mo ago
gold games on protondbs rating scale are classified as work with minimal issues or needs tweaking games that work right out of the box are platinum most of the time
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
my dude
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Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
compiling shaders, pls hold the line XD
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
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Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
apparently something in the prefix was borked, ty for your help ❤️
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
❤️
biebel
biebel2mo ago
Nice. Still baffled by proton completely crashing plasma though lol
Blackspell
BlackspellOP2mo ago
the prefix was created before I upgraded my GPU (had a 6700XT before) maybe that is the cause of this somehow?
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
might be and switching proton versions a lot would only worsen the situation also might be bad cached shaders

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