Sources for Sauce Zhan & Red Tornado?
I'm in the US. Any reliable sources for either of these brands here? And what’s a good price for them? Seems like a lot of 3rd party sellers misrepresent themselves as being the actual companies instead of resellers. Also the prices are all over the place, so I don't know who's jacking up the price, selling fakes, etc.
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Hi @Red Mantis! For better answers, include:
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Saucezhan
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Saucezhan Jeans handcrafted 21oz super heavy raw selvage denim jeans and jackets. Artisan-made with premium selvage denim, each piece develops unique character through wear. Uncompromising quality, timeless design, and exceptional craftsmanship.
RT doesn't have a official online store outside of Taobao that I'm aware of. I've seen Walmart and Amazon stock their stuff. I've only bought RT from the Vintage Silhouette store on Aliexpress or have them proxied.
Yeah that's the one that seems incredibly sketchy. A bunch of sudden social media accounts, no formal company information, GoDaddy domain registration, basically fails everything you'd look for from a legitimate brand site. Have you ordered from them before?
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Oh I'm fine buying from a proxy, I'd just like to buy from a someone who's being reasonably transparent. Established proxies from Japan, for example, all have reasonably stable pricing. China not so much it seems.
Sauce Zhan have an AliExpress store
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/4886075
I have a barbour spey repro by Red Tornado and I’m extremely happy with it! Got it via Aliexpress
oh and a couple of tshirts from red tornado, too! quality is similar to bronson
There are a few different aliexpress stores
They are all legit
There are no fakes
Its hard to make fakes of anything thats the cheapest thing on the market
Because they’re already operating with the tightest possible margins
Ordering from Aliexpress seems sketchy but it isnt. Both companies are based in china and its the most reliable online platform for buying from those companies
Well, there are jeans from SZ that are going for over $200 a pair. Even with tariffs, that still doesn't put them anywhere near Costco territory. Glad to hear they're going to be legit, but I have come across a number of other fakes of other products (Elektron synthesizers and Flipper Zeroes are examples). That's not a problem unique to Aliexpress. I just wanted to be reasonably sure Im getting the real deal.
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I was referring to red tornado as the low price target, but sauzezhan are still really cheap considering the market. The first part of what I said was the more important. The few shops on aliexpress/taobao that are selling them are legit
buy from Saucezhan's own taobao store
or somewhere like Vintage Silhouette store on aliexpress
Costco is not selling vintage repro selvedge jeans. They are not comparable
Levis sells $15 jeans too. Its irrelevant. A much larger market and much cheaper material
Agreed, my only point was that there are outright fakes in the world. Sauce Zhan and Red Tornado have really good reputations, good enough that there are people in the world that would fake them by getting cheap jeans and putting a fake label on them. That’s the relevant part. Thanks again for the guidance.
We’re gonna argue in circles here. But to be clear I’m disagreeing with you that there are fakes out there of saucezhan and red tornado. Anyways, its irrelevant to how you can buy them safely so whatever.