Unusual crash due to vanilla modules loading twice when SML present
This is the only mods I activated. The SML automatically activated when I enabled the Refined Power mod. Then when I launch the game via mod manager then it crashes immediately. I uninstalled and reinstalled the mod manager and satisfactory. I verified game files on steam, deleted the mod filter, updated my pc drivers and still it crashes. I'm so fed up. I don't know what to do anymore...
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Have you tried launching the game from steam or epic once the mods are installed? The mods will still work, you don't have to launch the game from SML
But also, the next time it crashes grab your debug log and post it in here, and someone here will help you work out what could be going wrong
>debug
We need more information to help you. Before launching the game again, open the Mod Manager and use the "Generate debug info" option, then send the zip file produced in #help-using-mods. This ensures that your help request won't get buried and forgotten in other, non-help channels!
If you need to access older log files, see https://docs.ficsit.app/satisfactory-modding/latest/faq.html#Files_Logs
Hello ! also have you installed dependencies? seems you havent seeing your screenshot
Yes, the SML. Do I have to install all of them?
refinedRDApi and others, sure you have to, they're dependencies, the mod needs them
says required
I'll give it a try and come back to you. For time being, here's the debug log...
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Crash found in FactoryGame_be28b253_Local_Stable_WindowsClient.log
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Crash found in FactoryGame.log
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How can I fix this?
install the dependencies, first ! https://ficsit.app/mod/RefinedPower
Installing now. I see the SML dependancie is version 3.11.1. mine is version 3.11.3. Does this matter?
nope its ok
it means you need 3.11.1 at lowest
higher is ok
the ^ means this
Installed all dependancies. Shows red but still crashed...
shows red??
you missed modular UI
others are ok
red means its not a mod by itself but a library used by a mod
okay, modular UI also installed, still crashed...
omg, so cant help more...sorry
trying to install it so i can see
Ok, if it's still crashing with all of those installed have you tried loading the game not from SMM? And does that still crash?
Checking......
maybe the game still runs "somewhere"
restart computer and start from steam
You don't have to launch the game from SML once mods are installed, that button is just for convenience
Yip, still crashed...
Okies, pop your new debug log in here now
From the most recent crash
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Crash found in FactoryGame.log
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Crash found in FactoryGame_be28b253_Local_Stable_WindowsClient.log
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Ok, just having a look through now!
I disables all the mods. Enabled only the SML, nothing else, and it crashed. Could it be something wrong with the mod loader?
well, try disabling it too ?
I just did and enabled free foundations, this mod doesn't need any dependencies but it still crashed. If I disable all and the run the game from the mod manager then it doesn't crash...
any mod would use SML, i guess
It's okay. It was fun while it lasted. Thanks for the help Kata & Muppet. I'll just start a new game without mods...
arghhh, a game without MODS !! cant imagine that...there must be a reason your game crashes
crashes also with only SML and free foundations checked?
There was 2 mods that needed updating. It was the SML and I cant remember which one was the second but after updating the 2 mods the game crashes the whole time...
Yeah...
It actually happens with any mod I enable..
well..i'm not skilled enough myself to help...maybe someone can , certainly someone can
Thanks though...
Someone will definitely be able to help!
I would normally be a lot faster going through the logs, but I'm quite sick so am slower than normal
But, we'll help you get to the bottom of what's going wrong to fix it!
Thanks Muppet. I appreciate it...
>verifysteam
If that doesn't work, try uninstalling the game, going to the folder where the files previously were to delete any stragglers, then installing it again
Did that, more than once...
Did that too...
With the delete leftover files? Or just the reinstall
The error is basically it saying there is two of the same asset, and that asset isn't packaged with SML so it shouldn't be possible that adding it would cause that
Just the reinstall...
Uninstalled the game, deleted all files. Reinstalling it now...
lol, let's pray the God Of Modding its ok !
btw stuggling with Refined Power to understand its basics
>rp
If you have any bugs, suggestions or need help with any of Refined R&D's mods you will probably get more help on their dedicated discord server.
https://discord.com/invite/Vt8Rt2Vsqf
well ! thank you for this one ! (twice today i post before searching by myself, must be sick today !)
If you check #videos-and-streams there is a multi-part refined power tutorial that's been posted there recently as well
OMG, overwhelming ! exactly what i was searching !
Just some feedback. Unistalled the game AND mod manager, deleted all files. Reinstalled everything.......... Aaaannnnddd....... Still crashes...
ModVoodoo curse...cant imagine anything else !
can you send a new debug zip of the crash happening with just the Satisfactory Mod Loader mod installed?
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Crash found in FactoryGame_be28b253_Local_Stable_WindowsClient.log
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the game never even gets to loading any mods
can you uninstall the SML mod, launch the game to the main menu, close it, then send a debug zip? so the two logs can be compared?
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What do you see?
the log with SML supposedly installed never even shows that SML is present, and the game shows no indication of trying to load it at all, but contains a ton of errors that your vanilla log does not have
Thanks Robb. I'll wait and see what @Mircea (Area Actions) has to say...
My guess right now is that UE somehow double loads the FactoryGame dll when SML is loaded
Send a screenshot of
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Satisfactory\FactoryGame\Binaries\Win64 and C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Satisfactory\FactoryGame\Mods
Also set LogModuleManager to Verbose (in the game config files, I forget exactly how) and launch the game with SML again, so it will hopefully log when dlls get loadedCould it be this?
No
Is this the screenshots you've been looking for?
Yeah, and that looks fine, there isn't some random extra dll from an older version of the game (makes sense you already reinstalled the game)
I can't find the LogModuleManager...
open this file:
%LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\Config\Windows\Engine.ini
and add this:
Core.Log aswel?
Okay, it's done. What next...
send the contents of the file here to ensure you got the formatting right
then try to launch with SML installed and it should print more info
looks correct
Launching the game now...
Okay, what now?
send another debug log (presumably it crashed again)
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Hi everyone, I've been struggling for a long time now looking for a solution. I've reinstalled both the game and the mod manager, but the game still crashes. Is there anyone who can help me fix the problem?
can you add a summary of the current issue so I don't have to look back through a lot of messages?
also probably best to provide a fresh debug zip
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Crash found in FactoryGame_be28b253_Local_Stable_WindowsClient.log
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when you uninstalled & reinstalled, did you clear the game's install directory manually before reinstalling?
Does your issue exclusively happen only when mods are turned on?
Yes, I deleted everything...
When using mod manager and no mods are enabled then the game runs but as soon as I enable ANY mod then it crashes. I've also checked the compatibility of the mod...
Can I send you a debug with no mods active and then one with an active mod and then maybe you can see where the problem is?
Really odd. I don't think there's much benefit to one without mods unless someone smarter than me comes along, but I am interested to see one with less/simpler mods - maybe try launching with exclusively PAK Utility Mod installed. That should mean only PAK and SML are loaded. (We want SML loaded with as little else as possible)
Okay, ive got the SML and unlimited dimensional depo enabled...
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I'd rather it was exclusively PAK Utility Mod so we can fully eliminate all of your mods except SML, but that still rules out my main working theory anyway.
is there another way to play with mods without using mod manager?
The mod manager is not the issue
the mods are the issue
>rhiborked
So, the issue doesn't look like a normal graphics issue, but it is happening on the rendering thread, so this might help you
There are a few things to try if your RHI is causing crashes.
1) Try switching your RHI. If you're using DX11 or DX12, switch to the other. If you're using Vulkan, try DX12 before DX11
2) Try verifying your game files.
3) Update/reinstall your graphics drivers
4) Try disabling hierarchal Z-buffer occlusion in the game's graphics settings.
5) Try tuning your graphics card's clock down, especially if has been overclocked (by you or the vendor)
For more info, run one of the following bot commands by sending it as a chat message:
>dx11 >dx12 >vulkan >verifyepic >verifysteam(point 1 in particular)
Step 1 : Done. Nothing happened, still crashes...
Step 1 - 3, done. still crashed...
Ok, last thing I can think to try:
* Turn off mods
* Go to
Mod Manager Settings -> Change Cache Location
* Copy the address which comes up and paste it into Windows Explorer
* Select all and delete
* Reboot SMM and turn on mods