Google's sideloading rule

I'm sure you've heard about this and I'm really sad they're doing this but in case you haven't here's the link: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/08/google-will-block-sideloading-of-unverified-android-apps-starting-next-year/ My question is this: What ramifications will this have for apps like Termux and FDroid?
Ars Technica
Google will block sideloading of unverified Android apps starting n...
Google says it’s no different than checking IDs at the airport.
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ted
tedβ€’15h ago
nobody knows, and anyone claiming to know is speculating there's basically no public info except the announcements I'm working on a tag because we are going to get this question over and over, but it's hard to write anything because... no one knows more than that
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There was an X screenie posted in #off-topic which more or less resolved this for me, gimme a sec.
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
I saw, and I think you misread it
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
yes. that's quite explicitly about building apks for your own use. says nothing about it being any easier to distribute termux than the announcement implies.
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Bc the bottom-line for me is that I don't wanna make a dev account with Google and just keep uploading APKs in a GitHub repo's "Releases" section. And for users to be able to download and install that APK. Which is why I asked about how Termux would do things.
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
I don't think that message at all resolves that they are specifically trying to prevent what you want
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Doesn't it imply that you can still sideload "for yourself" without having to register as a developer?
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
sure. what does "for yourself" mean? again, they are clear about the motivation for the change they are probably not blowing a giant hole in their attempt to achieve that
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Building something locally and installing it via adb for example. Or downloading an APK and installing that via ADB.
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
if I had to guess, they are planning to have adb connect pull a device-specific cert and adb install to use it transparently because that would accomplish the goal of letting you do development without registration, without undermining the main goal of making it impossible to do what we're doing and what you want but who fuckin knows, there's no info out there but this
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Makes sense...I guess we'll see. Still annoyed we even have to discuss this smdh
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
yeah, nothing positive here
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"openess"...bruh no, you're gatekeeping app installations. Apple much?
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
presenting it as a commitment to or advancement of openness was pretty painfully dishonest, yeah you can make an argument (that neither of us will buy) that this is a good thing to do, but not for that reason
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Thank you for your 2 cents, though and everyone else's.❣️ Much appreciated. In what world would that be the case???? This security argument is a bit flimsy Because at the end of the day If a user is sideloading malware, that's their problem.
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
you are free to view it that way
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
not the only way to view it and probably not the way I want my OS manufacturers to view it
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
malware does, in fact, affect more than the people who install it
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True but we can't gatekeep things because of a few irresponsible individuals. Wouldn't you agree that the agency Android users have now is what made Android what it will be until Sept. '26? Like "You choose and on your own head".
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
no there's no single thing that it is
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You could tell me what you mean later, if you want.πŸ™ˆ I gtg do some stuff now. Thank you for your input so far.πŸ’…πŸ½
ted
tedβ€’15h ago
in that it's a constrained app system, it's served one purpose for a huge number of people it's actually good that there's some structural limits on what random qur'an apps can do in that it's able to be a phone with a linuxish env that you and I care about, it's served another I don't think our purpose defines it or anything

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