Unable to reboot successfully

Every time I try to reboot through any method, the computer hangs at shutdown with a cursor at the top left of one screen. It will remain like this indefinitely, until I hard shut down the computer. Because of this, any rpm-ostree changes like reset or rollback will not take effect because the reboot never successfully finishes. It is also unable to complete any updates since August 19th due to this. I've tried key combinations while the cursor is on screen, but to no avail.
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StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
Rebooted into ostree:1, and that was able to reboot after hanging at the cursor screen for a minute. I tried running System Update from ostree:1, and now while updating to make it take effect, its hung. Has been for about 10 minutes. Still able to boot into Ostree:1 as it was. No update took place.
FinnFann
FinnFann2mo ago
Now I'm too low energy to do TOO much. But after one of the failed reboots you should be able to use ujust get-logs to see if maybe something was caught in the previous boot cycle which may have something related to the failed reboot. My guess is something to do with the state of the image. Either the layering or using topgrade without the script. Hard to tell. There're definitely solutions. The problem is finding out the state it's in. (And someone with more energy to help than a slug rolling around in salt i.e. myself atm)
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
I'll get these logs as soon as I'm home from work. https://paste.centos.org/view/70dc35a4 Finally got the logs... did it right after a failed reboot
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
can you give an rpm-ostree status?
FinnFann
FinnFann2mo ago
Unless they changed it should be the middle entry here. https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1087140957096517672/1424216406618013716 The top one was their first attempt to reset the ostree so it would start updating again.
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
hmmm
FinnFann
FinnFann2mo ago
The reboot issues started then I think. There's some additional context around that post.
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
if that is present, I don't see any reason that it wouldn't reboot -# wait why is my dude layering xinput💀 I assume systemctl reboot has been tried?
FinnFann
FinnFann2mo ago
We were going to fix that after we managed to get him reset. Like how to brew adb I don't know actually.
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
tbf probably would be the same outcome as just pressing reboot in the de
FinnFann
FinnFann2mo ago
Honestly I'm wondering if one option is to try a rebase if a rebase would wipe the tree out. Could rebase to the latest update.
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
well in theory the image will always be byte for byte identical rpm-ostree reset should already wipe everything I wonder if its syncthing and/or kde connect and maybe plasma printmanager
FinnFann
FinnFann2mo ago
I wonder...you know what's worth a shot? Logging out and THEN rebooting
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
yeah, might be worth a shot too
FinnFann
FinnFann2mo ago
Have plasma already down
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
-# watch it be stuck in logging out haha
FinnFann
FinnFann2mo ago
That would at least narrow the problem down to something trapping plasma shutdown! Which is still better than where we are now :>
皇家海星
皇家海星2mo ago
very true
FinnFann
FinnFann2mo ago
Now we just have to wait for them to get home and try it. And hope that things aren't still running post logout before restart.
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
@FinnFann @皇家海星 Okay sorry for not being attentive and replying! Yes, systemctl reboot has been tried. I have not tried logging out first, but I can try that. Also, I have noticed oddities with THAT pc not updating with Syncthing the same as my other bazzite device. I can try removing it if the other steps don't work. I do think it is logging out, based on the state it reaches with the single cursor... I'm also not opposed to this, as this headache has made me consider wiping and trying a debian distro again. Or Cachy lol
FinnFann
FinnFann2mo ago
Honestly I just think that the rpm layering went wrong in some fashion. That's why it's usually discouraged is if it touches too many files god knows what might go wrong with updates. Usually doesn't go this bad from what I've seen, though.
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
Yeah... I think I really only NEEDED to do it for icedtea-web, and the others were out of desperation One of my work programs opens JNLP files to connect to remote devices, and that's... convoluted on bazzite
nagito || Knight of Emilia
got an idea what if you boot skipping the graphical login & stuff alltogether
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
How would I go about that
nagito || Knight of Emilia
well first go to grub pres E on the entry you wanna boot go down to the line starting with linux press ctrl+e this takes you to the end hit space add systemd.unit=multi-user.target hit ctrl+x to boot this will do it take you to the text login no SDDM no plasma no any of that here you log in do whatever reboot hopefully works
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
I greatly appreciate you. I'll try it once I'm home today
Doc
Doc2mo ago
Has this been solved? Ive got thr same issue :c
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
I'm testing right now And I swear to God it might be the dumbest thing Will report back soon
Doc
Doc2mo ago
Wait, what button do we use to get into grub 😭 Can you get into the uefi? Some dude said his boot order was messed up
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
It is in fact the stupidest thing. Bazzite can't log out in the reboot process. If I log out, then reboot, it works. What the fuck. @FinnFann what in the fuck resetting rpm-ostree to see if that lets it reboot normally again. My boot order didn't change anything for this issue. It literally couldn't log itself out.
Doc
Doc2mo ago
I havent been able to get into any of the menus yet
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
You shouldn't need to
Doc
Doc2mo ago
Ive rebooted the puter multiple times..
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
Can you get into Bazzite if you hard shut down and boot up?
Doc
Doc2mo ago
No?
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
Then I don't think you have the same issue this thread is about
Doc
Doc2mo ago
This started because I tried to reboot after the screen was flickering
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
So what is your current issue? For me, I could boot and use Bazzite 100% normally, but I couldn't upgrade or make changes that required rebooting because it would get stuck while shutting down
Doc
Doc2mo ago
I turn the puter on Its that screen. Lil white blip Trying to get into the uefi though.
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
That's different, unfortunately... Yours is getting stuck while booting up, not shutting down. While its booting try spamming F2, F8, F11 One of them will get you into either boot selection or uefi
Doc
Doc2mo ago
Maybe if I spam the power button itll work lmfao
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP2mo ago
That won't do anything
Doc
Doc2mo ago
Itll bring hope Tbh I just dont think my keyboard knows it should be doing somthing
FinnFann
FinnFann2mo ago
Sounds like on yours, @StuckInAWell SOMETHING in the config got messed up and it causes plasma to hang on logout... Given the layered packages who knows what might be causing a hang. BUT if it let you rpm-ostree reset it MAY work properly now I -think- layered packages can touch root stuff to a very small degree on install.
nagito || Knight of Emilia
you cam always sudo loginctl terminate-user $USER this should always log you out
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP5w ago
Just so y'all know... This is still happening after updating. I regularly have to log out before I reboot or shut down, or else it won't actually finish logging out. I'm thinking I may just distro hop to Zorin or something @皇家海星
皇家海星
皇家海星5w ago
looking back at the chat log, my guess is syncthing might be preventing log out
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP5w ago
Hmmmm I'll have to try closing it out before I reboot.
Doc
Doc4w ago
Id it helps I just unplugged all my peripherals and it Worked.. For some reason idfk
StuckInAWell
StuckInAWellOP4w ago
Interesting NGL I installed cachyos on my other nvme and I've been testing that out, and its been so much better. Even runs games better... I'll likely just be sticking with that and wiping out my Bazzite install.

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