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Admincraftβ€’2mo ago
Kazok

upload speed and download speed

what is a good internet speed meaning upload and download speed for a large server or very modded server i wanna know
99 Replies
Eismeister
Eismeisterβ€’5w ago
if you're trying to selfhost a very large or heavily modded server, your internet speed will probably not be the thing that bottlenecks server performance
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
I would say a stable 100mbps would be fione for your case, assuming u have other things running too
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Upload or download Other things running wdym Not really am saying idk if having not so great internet speed would be problematic especially if the player count gets higher
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
mainly upload but download is also required, tho they'd be similiar in needs, so negligeable difference symmetrical would be better
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Wdym by other things? I wouldn't be running anything else on server
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
like other software, other devices running on the same network
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Idk about that I don't own the server physically on my home Idk how other devices would effect the speed How did you test the upload and download speed '-'
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
arent you home hosting/self hosting?
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
no i don't gotta powerfull cpu or server
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
then why ask, either way most have minimum 1gbps
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
wdym
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
other than few cases with 100mbps or 300mbps .
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
who has 1gb
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
all dedis, at least now days have minimum 100mbps, tho the standard tends to be 1gbps, and its moving towards 10gbps
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
dedis?
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
yes, dedis, servers datacenter hosted machines just to generalize
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
it's not datacenter it's vps virtual private server
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
which is probably hosted in a datacenter either way u alrdy have it no? it should have atleast 100mbps up and down speeds
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
i think mine is expection then
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
so u shouldnt rlly be worrying wdym
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
but how can you tell it's 100mbps what did you test connection with
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
provider should say on the website or u can use speedtest cli for ur linux distro ig
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
ye i used speedtest cli it should say 100mb?
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
thats one way to get an estimate
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
/s
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
100mbps or more
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
per second?
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
100mb0s is the bare, BARE minimum 100 megabits per second yes
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
that sounds a lot but to be expected for server i actually got below 100 πŸ˜” but it's minecaft 100 mb per second sounds a lot for minecraft does it really need that much
MelonOof
MelonOofβ€’5w ago
depending on the size yes else at a certain point players cannot join or may even get kicked if a spike happens for whatever reason
guess
guessβ€’5w ago
Think less of "minecraft needs a lot of upload" but rather, "having a 'large server' with lots of players" like you were saying needs a lot of upload. Every connected player requests a little bit of data from the server, and the server needs to be able to upload all that data to its players fast enough. When more and more players are joining and demanding data from the server, more upload bandwidth is needed to feed out data fast enough to all those many players, who each individually are not requesting that much data, but as a grand sum are requesting a lot. Each player may only need 2-3 mbps of data, but with 100 or 500 players, suddenly the server is needing to feed up 1.5 gigabits per second of data to everyone.
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
πŸ‘€ 2-3mbps for each player
guess
guessβ€’5w ago
This can be a lot more for modded servers / clients though. For example, a survival server with lots and lots of mods might have more complex chunks that send a lot more data as players explore
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
like terrain generator mod
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
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Snow Kit
Snow Kitβ€’5w ago
the only thing a slow upload speed would effect is the time it takes to send chunks. If the connection is exceptionally slow, it'll look something like this:
Snow Kit
Snow Kitβ€’5w ago
it is absolutely possible for 10 people exploring to hit 50mbps combined on a 1.21.1 modded server
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Maybe it doesn't happen often Or in rare ceases
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if your network bottlenecks, it certainly does happen think twice about using this to run mods most lower-end vps plans have older xeon/epyc chips that may not handle single threaded tasks well and if you are paying a lot for a vps, consider shared hosting
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Yoo your back
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
You have your own server I was gonna suggest to you going for folia Because you have lots of cores and not so good CPU speed
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we run fabric for lithium and stuff, as we are primarily a technical community
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
You mean normal Minecraft hosting
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like those who sells you non-dedicated servers
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Idk wdym by technical community but ok Like aternos
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
well thats a bad example but yes
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
And lagless Ye ik
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
I've heard lagless is good just curious, how much are you paying for said vps?
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
I do have good hosting I told you about Lets just say I know my way around
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
well if its cheap don't expect a ton of performance, in which case your cpu would probably bottleneck you instead of networking
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Ye I totally understand Am just trying stuff However I do have good hosting offering fast CPU and 8 GB of ram It's just the servers ping
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
it is not freeminecrafthost.com is it ☠️
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Keep that a secret What's the problem They weren't lying about anything
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
well no, I've tried to host a proxy before there, and the networking quality is ☠️
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
The only problem has become the ping because they are very far Wdym? Networking?? They are like any other host
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
random disconnects, and ports randomly closing themselves (non server)
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Why What
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
When did this happen Why did you not contact support
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
-_-
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
i'm not dependent on their services, just did it for curiosity
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Could have at least discovered the problem
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
give me 30 mins - 1 hour, ill show you what i mean
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
._. You gonna make a server there again πŸ˜‚ And recreate problem
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
nah im waiting for the described symptoms to happen with evidence
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
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Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
I mean am not support but I can ask around if it happened
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
well its not acting up yet, so you see how a part of the graphs are blank? The server is on, but the data logging port is just closed (?) only after a restart did it start to log data again
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Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Bro What is this graph
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Why not fmh console You installed this on server
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
its a more detailed profiler than what pterodactyl provides
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Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Pterodactyl is what fmh has but ok
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
this isnt that detailed is it
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Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Ik but not for your use cease Wait your only using 50%
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
so basically I've noticed that after a while the graphs are cut off and prometheus is no longer getting data from fmh
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
What node your on?
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Ah
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
also yes im using the cheapest plan
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Bruh I wouldn't use fmh for anything else other than highest plan
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
I'm not really using it per se, just poking around
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Ok You said it's not acting up right now
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
well it takes between 2 hours and 30 mins to do the magic, so any second now πŸ˜„ l
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
that sounds very odd
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
thats just a issue that ive noticed, maybe its just wizardry on my node and doesn't actually affect you
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Maybe I can't tell you nothing comes to mind because it's rare anybody uses network server on fmh I have not seen any support tickets before on this issue
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
well every server needs networking, and im not doing anything that a regular user wouldn't do
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Am just saying maybe the users are not smart enough to set this up or don't need to which is why I don't got any idea
π’Ÿπ‘œπ“‚π’Ύπ“ƒπ’Ύπ’Έ
well all the profiler is doing is occupying a port for data, which simulates a player connection and if the data is inconsistent, the connection can be choppy
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Could this be simply node is too far
Cubicake
Cubicakeβ€’5w ago
Keep that a secret
lmao do you think you've found some secret cheat code?
Snow Kit
Snow Kitβ€’5w ago
I mean, if you tell 10 people on a modded server to all explore at once and you have the bandwidth, then they will use 50mbps of upload bandwidth if there’s 10 people standing still, you’ll use almost 0 bandwidth
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’5w ago
Ye your right Not cheat code I said it for different reason then you had in mind It's also super good
Snow Kit
Snow Kitβ€’4w ago
I thought you were joking, I didn't think that was a real website
Kazok
KazokOPβ€’4w ago
i know lol i told them change the naming they don't listen it sounds sus as heck but everything legit :minecraftTroll: did you get issue ?

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