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+solved @user1 @user2... to close the thread when your doubt is solved. Mention the users who helped you solve the doubt. This will be added to their stats.and what about this one
Ys and ys
All three different substituents
And a lp
thats incorrect
amine inversion
ismein toh hoga amine inversion
the other one not so sure
hmm wahi laga merko bhi
but key says it is chiral
bruh
goc bhi nahi aata ab 🥀
pehla wala N is not chiral aur dusra wala chiral acc to key
merko toh key galat lag rahi hai
or maybe im coping
koi aur gyaani hai kya chem ans karne ke lie
Aahhh that yes
GOC nahi padha hai abhi tak
Amines chiral nahi hote doesn’t that apply here?
Similar to carbanions
Yea iske kaaran. Small energy of inversion.
Usually bicyclic ones could be chiral
yes but agar amine inversion hi na ho then it can be chiral right?
by applying the normal criteria
so in this case due to ring no inversion so N is chiral but acc to key its not
No no. Bicylic me hone ke chances hai
Maybe my understanding is off when I say amine inversion.
But what I meant is that the energy is low. So both forms co exist
Just like carbanion inversions.
did not really understand how is bicyclic related to this qn
maybe im not understanding ur point
achiral prolly 1since it has 120 deg here... flipping will be restricted in smaller rings iirc
what book is this man
looks pretty good
also yes this ^
choti rings me there's a lot more strain
yahan pe toh possible hoga
ohhh okay
thanks
what about this one tho
that thing
is huge
the energy barrier must be like
200 units or smthn
is it chiral
basically Ea is inversely proportional to size of the substituents na
@vj25_
answer chiral hi given hai na?
like the first one is achiral and the second one is chiral
yep its chiral
yes
Ea being energy needed for amine inversion?
hmm makes sense
oh this is lg wade
ooh that's why?
yes
angle strain is the second thing you should check for
first toh bulkiness hi
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