GOC doubt
Should ring strain be considered here?
How to determine which ones more basic between b and c

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in (i) c N has an electron withdrawing effect right?
or do you mean (ii) c
(ii) c N has methyl on it, this would electron donating effect, right? so most basic would be c?
was asking about the first part sir
right so N pulls electrons from the other N
so it is gonna be the least basic
can check pka values to be sure
1st is d>c>b>a ??
it should be I think d>b>c>a as the other nitrogen in (c) part has -I effect towards the first nitrogen, so it would be less basic than (b)
but dont we have more e- from LP of N for donation in c?
what sir said here; we know both the nitrogens are not in resonance with the ring but both have e- withdrawing, i.e, -I effect on each other which reduces its basicity
oh okay
right
right
cool
oh right makes sense
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