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you can look into a identity provider
such as auth0
or clerk
Clerk
Clerk | Authentication and User Management
The easiest way to add authentication and user management to your application. Purpose-built for React, Next.js, Remix, and “The Modern Web”.
if you can
dont roll your own auth service
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Clerk is the best authentication and user management solution for React Native apps. Add sign up, sign in, and a user profile to your app in minutes.
aws cognito LOL
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on the last jamstack conference there was a talk about clerk
if you can find the vod
may help you
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no
if you open ping site to sign in
you only have social login as auth
passwords are bad bad
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not rolling your auth service is one thing
not owning the user info is another
oauth2 is amazing at that
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next auth dont support rn
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tbf
it makes sense that next auth doesnt support rn
a rn specific package to handle auth in the same way as next auth should be better
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that is a nice point for a auth service like auth0 and firebase
its "Plug and play"
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yep
https://github.com/sTNeto1/t3-auth0
just did a basic implementation of auth0 with next and using trpc
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https://github.com/STNeto1/t3-auth0/blob/main/src/server/trpc/router/example.ts#L15
ctx.session.user
you have the user
from there you go with what you want to do
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i mean
if you need to join the data with the user info
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you have to shadow the auth0 db in the application db
you can fetch manually from the service
or
you can create hooks to sync from auth0 to the application
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Post-User Registration
Learn how hooks can be used with the Post-User Registration extensibility point, which is available for database connections and passwordless connections.
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you only shadow the real data
you keep in sync with auth database
but not manage it directly
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if you want
yes
that way you can keep track of user stuff on the application
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auth0 manage their identity
authentication and authorization
you keep a copy of the data for the sake of the content
if you use next auth with prisma adapter you get a similar behaviour
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i was just talking about the user data
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you can query their database of the tenant
hey guys. I'm having similar issues. after issuing the JWT I cannot query the database on a protected procedure.
I was trying out auth0, firebase and https://github.com/t3-oss/create-t3-turbo
Also, I was seeing that https://github.com/nextauthjs/next-auth/pull/5240 got abandoned.
Has anybody some ideas? I am working and looking into solutions for days and can't get anything to work.
IMO create-t3-app on mobile is currently kinda useless, if this issues persist.
GitHub
GitHub - t3-oss/create-t3-turbo: Clean and simple starter repo usin...
Clean and simple starter repo using the T3 Stack along with Expo React Native - GitHub - t3-oss/create-t3-turbo: Clean and simple starter repo using the T3 Stack along with Expo React Native
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feat:
next-auth/expo
by intagaming · Pull Request #5240 · nextaut...☕️ Reasoning
I attempted to create the next-auth/expo module that supports using NextAuth in Expo, with an external Next.js server acting as the NextAuth Authorization Server.
The hope is that deve...
I mean
Create t3 turbo is just a project starter
C3a is a real product
Next auth doesn't work on rn because it was made specially for next
As the names implies next auth
I do not disagree 😄
I was hearing on Theo's stream, that mobile auth is coming and already worked on.
Theo - t3․gg
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We Fixed Mobile Dev
As a big fan of the T3 Stack, it's pretty dang cool we got it working on mobile.
T3-TURBO-CLERK: https://github.com/clerkinc/t3-turbo-and-clerk
James's YouTube: @James_Perkins http://youtube.com/@James_Perkins
Create-t3-app: https://github.com/t3-oss/create-t3-app
Create-t3-turbo: https://github.com/t3-oss/create-t3-turbo
Julius's Twitter: ...
Clerk is good but many complain it's too expensive, though. https://Supertokens.com looks like a very attractive alternative:
- easy (lots of enthusiastic reports about it)
- use the managed solution (which is cheaper than the alternatives),
- secure and scalable (rotating refresh tokens with JWTs),
- open source,
- has magic links,
- and the architecture of it all allows you to simply and quickly eject to self-hosting it if/when you eventually need to.
SuperTokens, Open Source User Authentication
Add simple email and password sign up functionality to your site or app in 15 minutes
Adding Authentication and Authorization to create-t3-turbo (incl. E...
This is a guide on how to add authentication and authorization to a create-t3-turbo (incl. Expo) project using clerk.dev. The goal is to secure your app and ensure that only authorized users have access to certain features or resources. By using clerk.dev, you can easily add authentication and authorization to your create-t3-turbo app without ha...
ignore the sales pitch, since the repo in the video has everything
this approach sets a JWT, which can be used with different providers
thing is, that clerk provides a few components, which make life a little easier
With this announcement in mind (Clerk for auth), what are the plans for create-t3-turbo? Will create-t3-turbo be changed to always include clerk? Or should one use the new repo WITH clerk (https://github.com/clerkinc/t3-turbo-and-clerk) ? In other words: If you need auth, you should not use create-t3-turbo? Or are there future plans for create-t3-turbo to also include auth in some way?
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GitHub - clerkinc/t3-turbo-and-clerk: A t3 Turbo starter with Clerk...
A t3 Turbo starter with Clerk as the auth provider. - GitHub - clerkinc/t3-turbo-and-clerk: A t3 Turbo starter with Clerk as the auth provider.
as far as I know from what theo said on the stream, they are working on making next-auth compatible with react native.
However, this was before https://github.com/nextauthjs/next-auth/pull/5240#issuecomment-1312543851
I believe this is the missing piece to fully self host authorization.
Also see: https://github.com/t3-oss/create-t3-turbo/issues/33#issuecomment-1326447017
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feat:
next-auth/expo
by intagaming · Pull Request #5240 · nextaut...☕️ Reasoning
I attempted to create the next-auth/expo module that supports using NextAuth in Expo, with an external Next.js server acting as the NextAuth Authorization Server.
The hope is that deve...
GitHub
What should I use instead of Next-Auth? · Issue #33 · t3-oss/create...
Excuse me, if this isn't actually an issue, but I just want to know the best way of authentication with this stack, because I love it.
For the time being, I think that the clerk stuff will stay seperate from the t3-turbo repo
i'm no official, but I bet that create-t3-turbo will remain the same, and t3-turbo-and-clerk is the clerk fork option for those that want clerk. Fortunately, since these are starter repos and not libraries, you only use them once, and don't need to pick the right one to depend on for future updates.
I was looking at similar solutions and found supertokens which can be selfhosted, but that would mean not using next auth i guess
SuperTokens, Open Source User Authentication
Add simple email and password sign up functionality to your site or app in 15 minutes
I honestly thing, that it is possible to use next-auth with react native. the implementation would nag me a bit, since OAuth is something I am not comfortable with (even as a senior :D)
by following the ideas, the code that implements this (https://docs.expo.dev/guides/authentication/) and PR above, I can image that someone will get something working
Expo Documentation
Authentication
Expo is an open-source platform for making universal native apps for Android, iOS, and the web with JavaScript and React.
another alternative for crossplatform auth is Firebase Auth: https://github.com/Xiel7/create-t3-turbo-firebase
Can you use Supertokens OAuth with Expo?
yeah supertokens is crossplatform
I tried it in my current project. It apparently requires the react native firebase lib, which requires the programmer to mess with the xcode files. Since I have no idea about the xcode project files thingy I just stuck with clerk
just felt more comfortable
I just found out supertokens today. It says you need to eject the app here if using expo https://supertokens.com/docs/react-native/installation
SuperTokens | Documentation
Add simple email and password sign up functionality to your site or app in 15 minutes
interesting. that means, that I'd have the same problem as with react native firebase 😄
But deffo worth checking out!
ok, that sucks 😕
I'd love to know how clerk has solved this issue
lmk if you find out!
https://github.com/clerkinc/javascript/tree/main/packages/expo
They are using mostly a slightly adjusted react version for expo. I still have no idea on how it incorporates with the expo oauth flow.
GitHub
javascript/packages/expo at main · clerkinc/javascript
Official Javascript repository for Clerk authentication - javascript/packages/expo at main · clerkinc/javascript
I got a hold of supertokens support, and they said the docs were out of date and the issue mentioned there doesn't apply any longer. For RN/Expo they suggested following either of the guides instead. F.ex. for passwordless then go here https://supertokens.com/docs/passwordless/custom-ui/init/frontend and then Mobile then React Native tab.
SuperTokens, Open Source Authentication
Add simple email and password sign up functionality to your site or app in 15 minutes
That sounds great. I will have a look at their SDKs.
I have been searching for a simple solution that requires the least amount of coding for auth/registration and works for both nextjs and react native. I have yet to find other options that can do this and can also be self-hosted.
let me know how it turns out! PS: I got a reply in supertokens discord immediately, so they should be quick to help if you run into issues.
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this is marvelous! thanks for sharing it 🙂
I can't imagine it does.
only for crossplatform / mobile, since auth.js aka. nextauth doesn't support mobile/reactnative yet.
yeah only for cross platform / mobile I think at as well
well i think it’s for everything (but I am also biased towards Clerk). but in the case of T3 we are only here to help the community get what they want
and for anyone who said Pricing is too high, love any feedback why you think our free tier doesn’t get you all the way to profitability and beyond before needed to upgrade to hobby plans.
or what you think of hobby plans etc i’m all ears.
Hi @James Perkins ! It's nice to see someone from clerk to read our discussions.
I honestly think that the pricing is fair, better/cheaper than other providers, and clerk's cost-effectiveness and ability to streamline the authentication process make it a valuable tool for developers looking to test and launch new applications, since I think that getting auth right is one of the hardest things to do. This is why I'm planning on using clerk for my coming applications.
Currently I'm contracting with a law firm, who like to have everything self-hosted; and for organisations in Germany, e.g. Universities, are required to provide self-hosted solutions to nearly everything due to our version of the GDPR. Besides not paying an auth provider, owning/hosting the authentication system becomes a necessity for those kind of applications.
It will be interesting to see if and how Clerk adapts to these requirements and continues to evolve in the future, but I'm already very happy with what clerk provides.
Hey this is great feedback!
Honestly I work at Clerk but I am more about the community. I've been in this game a long time, and hanging in this Discord for a while. Theo and I have been doing some things behind the scenes before this video came around. He is the reason this ended up being a thing in the first place.
I am going to funnel some of this back to the people with the power.
Feel free at any point to hit me up for things related to Clerk, always happy to answer.
Have been using Clerk + t3-turbo for the last month! (Even before the
t3-turbo-and-clerk
repo came out). Lots of great stuff with this stack. Thanks for the quick updates and iterations!this is great to hear. ❤️