I had motors report UNDERVOLTAGE and go OFFLINE. I dropped max motor current from 30 to 20A and the

I had motors report UNDERVOLTAGE and go OFFLINE. I dropped max motor current from 30 to 20A and the problem has gone away.

walmis•11/14/22, 12:17 PM

Probably PSU protection activated, you could also reduce "max psu current" setting

worldOP•11/14/22, 12:34 PM

Will do. Thank you.

roller25.•11/14/22, 7:40 PM

xpforce.txt6.11KB

roller25.•11/14/22, 7:47 PM

@walmis theres a log of when the xpforce effects dropped out. Not sure if the log shows anything or not..

roller25.•11/15/22, 2:18 AM

Disregard. Turns out apparently you need to buy a new licence key everytime XPForce is updated...

Pfhoenix•11/15/22, 3:38 AM

well that can't be right

roller25.•11/15/22, 4:10 AM

I've seen a few people raise the same issue on forums. Tried multiple times to contact the creator of XPForce but have had zero replies. Doesn't really matter. The previous version seems to function the same anyhow.

Mike (Mugs)•11/15/22, 12:22 PM

I was really annoyed about the slight wiggle in the TM warthog and F18 grip regardless of base, I found this great fix with a couple of bits of leggo !

Viktor Martin•11/15/22, 12:51 PM

Lmao

walmis•11/15/22, 12:54 PM

Yeah my TM F-16 grip has the same wiggle

inv•11/16/22, 9:07 AM

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4575333

FSSB R3 Warthog grip support by sturlaj

Snap-on support for the Thrustmaster warthog grip. Snaps on and locks the nut from moving anywhere. Needed when using the warthog grip with the FSSB R3 force sensing base to prevent breaking the grip. Facilitates easy removal for swapping between the orginal base and the FSSB R3.

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/17/22, 11:32 PM

hi all, just found out about Rhino and possible DIY with https://github.com/farm/bldc-ffb-joystick-base - did somebody possibly already do a conversion of vpc warbrd base ?

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/18/22, 12:21 AM

how does the Rhino work with il2 BoX ?

1102nd-YU-cmirko how does the Rhino work with il2 BoX ? 🙂

walmis•11/18/22, 6:00 AM

Works great, it interfaces directly with Il2's FFB support

Wwalmis Works great, it interfaces directly with Il2's FFB support

ddrake1984•11/18/22, 7:27 AM

does it? you better send me mine so I can check

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/18/22, 10:22 AM

has anybody documented a 3dprinted DIY Rhino ? like, starting from upper link and then integrating with @walmis motor kit ?

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/18/22, 10:23 AM

same goes for vpc warbrd base, is it doable to convert it to Rhino motors ?

walmis•11/18/22, 10:23 AM

@Roller25 did one, but not sure if it's documented

1102nd-YU-cmirko same goes for vpc warbrd base, is it doable to convert it to Rhino motors ?

Leddhedd•11/18/22, 4:13 PM

Nope, way too small

LLeddhedd Nope, way too small

Propeler3D•11/18/22, 4:17 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUK2omoil2U It is possible to convert virtually any base to FFB one... with some immagination

YouTubeAurism

Proteus Simpit Force Feedback Demo

https://github.com/aurism/proteus-simpit

Leddhedd•11/18/22, 4:18 PM

Sure, but at what point does it stop being a warbrd? I think he's asking if it's possible to use the warbrd base and just add motors, and a single 57BLF03 is nearly the same size as the gimbal system, you would need an entirely new base

Leddhedd•11/18/22, 4:18 PM

Leddhedd•11/18/22, 4:19 PM

I totally expect to see smaller motor kits popping up, but it'll be a little while still I think

Leddhedd•11/18/22, 4:20 PM

There are motors that would fit and work, but the warbrd's are really tiny, hard to fit all the mechanicals and motors in em

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/18/22, 4:48 PM

we misunderstood - I would not try to pack the motors into warbrd base - just use the gimbal of it with a kit

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/18/22, 4:49 PM

and then make another "box" for motors and electronics for Rhino components

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/18/22, 5:38 PM

so the real question is, how would somebody convert a VPC warbrd gimbal to work with the FFB kit

PPropeler3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUK2omoil2U It is possible to convert virtually ...

Right Rudder - Left Stick•11/18/22, 5:50 PM

thats using a donor MSFFB2, so it's still having issues with the hardware deadzone and gear teeth feeling

RRight Rudder - Left Stick thats using a donor MSFFB2, so it's still having issues with the hardware deadzo...

Propeler3D•11/18/22, 5:54 PM

It is only idea how to add ffb to any stick. Instead of MSFFB2 could be any system you want.

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/19/22, 11:14 AM

would be lovely to hear more ideas for using a freely moveable gimbal like on a VPC warbrd base

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/19/22, 11:16 AM

I feel like this upper solution of Proteus simpit will probably have too much leeway since it's mechanically connected three times (so to say)

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/19/22, 11:17 AM

also, where to order cogs and pulleys online ? can you guys share your favourite suppliers (I'm in Germany)

1102nd-YU-cmirko also, where to order cogs and pulleys online ? can you guys share your favourite...

walmis•11/19/22, 11:23 AM

I can machine the small pulleys for the motors, the larger ones are usually 3d printed. Also AliExpress is a good source for everything, but there's a long waiting time.

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/19/22, 11:24 AM

have you thought about selling Rhino Kits for DIY assembly ?

102nd-YU-cmirko•11/19/22, 11:24 AM

(I'm probably not the first with the idea ^^)

walmis•11/19/22, 11:26 AM

I have, but scrapped the idea for the time being, to better focus on optimizing Rhino production.

peachmonkey•11/19/22, 5:33 PM

hi, all, I started to read up on the 'break out' force setting, however there isn't much info on what it is and what it does. Per my understanding it's a force that keeps the stick 'in the ffb center' and unable to move until I apply a certain amount of force in pitch or roll axis. Does anyone have an idea on what it should be for the ww2 planes? I'd think it's different per airframe, does anyone have any recommended values for it?

1102nd-YU-cmirko has anybody documented a 3dprinted DIY Rhino ? like, starting from upper link an...

roller25.•11/19/22, 7:04 PM

I 3d printed the propeler gimbal (has held up great so far) and cnc cut the Rhino housing from plywood.

Haums•11/20/22, 9:51 PM

what are the specifications for the controller board?

Haums•11/20/22, 9:51 PM

or is there a schematic for it?

Haums•11/20/22, 9:52 PM

also, is it fine to run off 24V?

HomeOfMomo•11/21/22, 4:32 AM

@walmis I was trying to make cable connections to your USB controller and found the onboard 2.5mm pitch headers didn't mate perfectly with my JST XH connectors. The pitch seems to be the same 2.5mm but the locking mechanisms are different. I did some research on the web and found this type of connectors with the same pitch called XHB that looks similar to what you have installed on the USB controller but not sure. Can you please confirm so I can procure the right type? JST XH: https://www.jst.com/products/crimp-style-connectors-wire-to-board-type/xh-connector/ XHB: https://www.lhecn.com/a2502/

JST

XH Connector | JST Sales America

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A2502(XHB) Connector | 2.5mm Pitch - LHE Electronics

A2502(XHB) Connector 2.5mm Pitch is replacement of YEONHO SMH250-NN connectors. 2.5mm pitch.It’s widely used in wire to board connectors.

HHaums also, is it fine to run off 24V?

walmis•11/21/22, 5:36 AM

I have put the top level schematic in #showcase pinned. The motor controllers work at 12-24V, 30A max motor current.
Let me know what kind of specs are you interested in.

Wwalmis I have put the top level schematic in #showcase pinned. The motor controllers wo...

Haums•11/21/22, 11:20 AM

Ah, sorry for the unclear formulation, i meant the dimensions so i can integrate it into my case.

walmis•11/21/22, 11:22 AM

Thanks

Here's the board dimensions

walmis•11/21/22, 11:22 AM

Wwalmis Click to see attachment

Haums•11/21/22, 11:23 AM

Thanks!

HomeOfMomo•11/30/22, 6:32 AM

@walmis Hi, I finally had a chance to put it all together with the motor/USB controller kit you sent me. As I was test flying the F-14B and P-51D modules with this newly assembled FFB stick in DCS, I noticed I would lose the stick control in the middle of flying and DCS would even stop respond to the ESC key. Sometimes I could unplug and re-plug the USB cable to the stick to get DCS to come back and respond to key strokes but at that time the stick would go limp and would not talk to DCS anymore. I also noticed, throughout this occurrence, VPforce FFB Configuration did not complain and the telemetry data were consistently getting updated. Have you experienced anything like this before? I tried the released and open-beta DCS and they both exhibited the same symptom. Restarting the computer with a fresh Windows 10 loaded up did not seem to help. Please help!

HHomeOfMomo @walmis Hi, I finally had a chance to put it all together with the motor/USB con...

walmis•11/30/22, 6:37 AM

This sounds awfully like USB host controller issues, do you use a USB hub perhaps?

walmis•11/30/22, 6:39 AM

also an event log from the Debug tab would be helpful

I had motors report UNDERVOLTAGE and go OFFLINE. I dropped max motor current from 30 to 20A and the

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