Lan android phone that will actually last is more expensive than a pinephone
L150$ for a phone that just works as a phone, and doesn't have weird shit thanks to android
KHuh... that's pretty reasonable actually
KI wonder if they've worked out their kinks yet...
KI remember last time I saw a linux phone it was basically unuseable
Kcause I guess shoving x86 apps into an ARM device isn't a good idea
Lit's gotten a lot better, and even then, i'm used to using beta software i'm fine with some bugginess or slowdown, as long as it functions and doesn't actively block me from basic functions
La few android versions back they added a nausiating squish and squash animation when scrolling, so ive been stuck with all animations disabled for years
KPlus as an added bonus you can actually use C# to make your own stuff without having to deal with "now make the C# do java things"
Li shouldn't have to blanket make the OS uglier because one animation makes me sick
Lthe state of c# on mobile is cursed
KDon't the developer menu have like... animation speed settings?
Lit doesn't effect the problematic one
KAh.
KHowso?
Ljust lack of maturity in developer tools overall
KOh you meant developing for androi/ios, not "mobile devices on ARM" in general?
Lyeah
KYeah...
KHave to use xamarin, but it's deprecated, but not really...
VIsn't MAUI the successor to xamarin?
Lme when MAUI still isn't supported on linux
KI think MAUI is supposed to be their universal successor to basically everything
KBut it's taking one hell of a long time for them to figure it out
VI stopped following it when I learned that it wasn't going to be consistent UI visuals on different platforms 
Not supporting linux also turned me away, yeah
Not supporting linux also turned me away, yeah
KDid they actually say they gave up on linux tho? I hope not.
Lit's just not something they are working on
Lthey haven't claimed they wont
Lbut they arent
VThey said it is for the community to develop
I can't seem to find where it was said, but I know it exists
I can't seem to find where it was said, but I know it exists
VThere used to be a support table, but I can't seem to find it 
KGitHub
merging main-linux with
a recent maui.main (dotnet@1106987)
plus dotnet#9522
State
Controls.Samples.Gtk is running
all the rest is WIP
How to get net6-gtk workload:
clone https://github.com/GtkSh...
a recent maui.main (dotnet@1106987)
plus dotnet#9522
State
Controls.Samples.Gtk is running
all the rest is WIP
How to get net6-gtk workload:
clone https://github.com/GtkSh...
KSeems like there's community work on it at least
Txamarin is cursed, because it's seemingly both the custom UI controls and android API bindings in one package. and it's not really deprecated
Ti would like to hear more on this
Ti personally like that you can debug c# android apps through wifi
Lits just not mature, i have encountered times where ittl install dozens of the same copy of the app to my phone, all separately launchable, problems where ive had to restart my phone as adb just doesnt detect it, had to constantly replug my phone, attaching a debugger would crash the app sometimes, sometimes it wouldnt, attaching a debugger would break parts of System.Drawing's text drawing
Ljust overall weird behaviour
Tcool, and i had none of those problems 
Lmaybe it was just the linux builds of it all being ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Talso sincere good luck on finding a new phone to run linux on
Lplanning on getting a pinephone
Li dont need the latest and greatest specs
Ti'm especially concerned about eSIM bullshit
Lmy carrier still has normal sim cards
Tvery understandable. i meanwhile imported a super cheap phone, and reflashed it using an exploit on the locked bootloader
Tbut just because it's super cheap doesn't mean it's bad. less than half the price of a samsung S7 but twice as fast cpu+gpu and more storage and memory
L
Lmy texture packer works woo
L