I did not dig into it yet, but it is possible to implement moving trim for modules which should have

I did not dig into it yet, but it is possible to implement moving trim for modules which should have and doesn't support it (like the harrier and the mig-19...yes all by razbam)

VVirus I did not dig into it yet, but it is possible to implement moving trim for modul...

walmis•1/31/23, 6:11 AM

I haven't figured out yet how to get trim values from DCS export.lua, not sure if at all possible.

VirusOP•1/31/23, 6:15 AM

Well I think maybe you should get in contact with razbam as my IFE friends showed me it's easy to implement moving trim...with the 339 they did just in one hour work

walmis•1/31/23, 6:16 AM

But that's internal to the module

walmis•1/31/23, 6:16 AM

I imagine it would be tricky to control trim externally

VVirus I did not dig into it yet, but it is possible to implement moving trim for modul...

PiNKSH!T•1/31/23, 6:21 AM

RAZBAM, I asked them on their Discord about what FFB the F-15 E will come out with, his reply gave me no hope, he wasn't even sure if the F-15 was fly-by-wire or not, it's not only the newest Saudi version is. When I told him it wasn't fly-by-wire he informed me I should do the research of what effects the pilot would of felt by asking people in their discord, yeah so very low expectations from Razbam. Although now that Walmis has made this awesome DCS telemetry effects app I guess it doesn't matter what they do or don't add

VirusOP•1/31/23, 6:22 AM

I know

VirusOP•1/31/23, 6:22 AM

But no one is asking them fancy effects

VirusOP•1/31/23, 6:22 AM

For that we can use telemetry

VirusOP•1/31/23, 6:23 AM

But the basics....the moving trim is essential

walmis•1/31/23, 6:23 AM

Yeah, they could implement this even with an old MSFF2

ddrake1984•1/31/23, 6:39 AM

the fact you can get the telem for most aircraft is really cool

VPforceBot•1/31/23, 7:13 AM

:package: RHINO #0043 Has Shipped!

amadeus•1/31/23, 7:24 AM

https://tenor.com/view/damn-shookt-shocked-gif-5580082

Tenor

Daaaaamn

amadeus•1/31/23, 7:25 AM

These things flyin off the shelves

Wwalmis I imagine it would be tricky to control trim externally

roller25.•1/31/23, 8:35 AM

Could there be a solution like how XPForce implements trim for MSFS2020 maybe?

NITE 107 | Snake•1/31/23, 8:36 AM

For A/C where trim works by moving the stick could we eliminate the game entirely and just bind the trim keys and use that to move the virtual center point?

NITE 107 | Snake•1/31/23, 8:37 AM

Then we could use something like the spring effect to give more force needed for greater deflections and still “feel” trim by moving the neutral position

NITE 107 | Snake•1/31/23, 8:37 AM

Only major downside is we would need a reset button to for respawn

skyPickle•1/31/23, 5:36 PM

I noticed the Apache is missing from the TelemFFB config.ini. Is this intentional?

SskyPickle I noticed the Apache is missing from the TelemFFB config.ini. Is this intentiona...

walmis•1/31/23, 5:41 PM

no, it needs to be populated. As it's open source patches are welcome

skyPickle•1/31/23, 5:46 PM

ok, where does on find the necessary arguments to put in the 'get_argument_value' call?

skyPickle•1/31/23, 5:48 PM

for example , where did you find them for the Dora?

walmis•1/31/23, 5:54 PM

this is an entire can of worms - you have to search through module lua files: for example cockpit arguments are listed in (for mig-21) "DCS World\Mods\aircraft\MIG-21bis\Cockpit\mainpanel_init.lua"

skyPickle•1/31/23, 8:27 PM

OMG. you are a hero for doing the planes you already did. I have written some lua files for the streamdeck plugin CTytler made (This allows a streamdeck to receive data from the module in DCS , display the state of the control in DCS, as well as send data back to DCS to change the state of the control - like flaps, gear, etc). I can look at what you did and reverse engineer the source. There are several identifiers a button can have so it's not always straightforward.

roller25.•1/31/23, 8:40 PM

Just asked a trim question on the Razbam F15E discord (seems have a few tossers over there).. so apparently the stick has autotrim, but also moves with trim input...

FlatSpin•1/31/23, 10:20 PM

!stats

FFlatSpin !stats

VPforceBot•1/31/23, 10:20 PM

Hey @.flatspin,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0043 on 2023-01-31
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 116 days, median is 116 days, max is 196 days
40 Rhinos are shipped in total

Wwalmis this is an entire can of worms - you have to search through module lua files: fo...

skyPickle•2/1/23, 12:23 AM

so the apache is weird. Whereas the Dora has a ton of exportable values, the Apache only has these:

skyPickle•2/1/23, 12:24 AM

[arg] = "%0.4f", -- gauge
[50] = "%0.4f", -- Operator_Body
[181] = "%0.4f", -- Canopy
[905] = "%0.4f", -- CanopyDamages
[798] = "%0.4f", -- canopy
[635] = "%0.4f", -- mirror_fake

skyPickle•2/1/23, 12:42 AM

the number in the brackets is the DCS ID

SskyPickle OMG. you are a hero for doing the planes you already did. I have written some lu...

walmis•2/1/23, 5:23 AM

That export lua is borrowed from simshaker, so the props go to the simshaker dev.

TC-Durham•2/1/23, 5:24 AM

@walmis - have you looked at DCS-BIOS for telemetry?

walmis•2/1/23, 5:25 AM

Yeah, but didn't dive too deep though

TC-Durham•2/1/23, 5:27 AM

It is all written in C++, very fast using bit shifting and so on and basically ports out the whole plane to you receiving server.

walmis•2/1/23, 5:29 AM

Might be worthwhile to check out

TC-Durham•2/1/23, 5:30 AM

Video I did nearly three years ago getting it to work with C#: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOPZ52AQMwY

YouTubeMATTHEW ROGERS

DCS Bios Rust Demo

Wrote Rust library to parse DCS-BIOS protocol, because (1) I wanted to do this once, and not have to endlessly check address, mask and shift in my high level language and (2) Rust is really cool and I wanted to show it off.

Initially, I thought that we might need to use the multi threading features of Rust, in order to maintain the k,v list of ...

TC-Durham•2/1/23, 6:05 AM

Documentation here - https://dcs-bios.readthedocs.io/en/latest/control-reference.html

TC-Durham•2/1/23, 6:06 AM

Primary purpose is for controls, but also provides telemetry, if I don't misremember

Magpie•2/1/23, 6:13 AM

Isn’t dcs bios no longer supported

sliphavoc•2/1/23, 7:00 AM

There's a fork of DCS BIOS that is actively maintained, I've been using it for a project recently, seems to work fine: https://github.com/DCSFlightpanels/dcs-bios

GitHub

GitHub - DCSFlightpanels/dcs-bios: DCS-BIOS Flightpanels Fork

DCS-BIOS Flightpanels Fork. Contribute to DCSFlightpanels/dcs-bios development by creating an account on GitHub.

PiNKSH!T•2/1/23, 8:11 AM

Hey Walmis any chance of a eta for an installer for the DCS Telemetry app? I should be able to follow the install steps, maybe with some help, but I really have no experience with any of it & I would be just blindly following steps & having no idea if what I'm doing is right or not. Keen to finally start learning the F-18 but was keen to start it with all the ffb effects.

roller25.•2/1/23, 8:42 AM

It's actually not as hard as it seems. I was a little daunted also at first.

PiNKSH!T•2/1/23, 8:55 AM

yeah I'm just not sure what it means by; "Open a power shell/CMD window" or how to "Clone the repository to your local machine" & not sure about "Install the required Python packages" so basically all the install instructions on the Github page lol

walmis•2/1/23, 11:50 AM

lol, I'll make an executable version soon

Wwalmis lol, I'll make an executable version soon 🙂

PiNKSH!T•2/1/23, 11:52 AM

that'd be awesome m8, I'll have to give the install a try tomorrow. Also wanted to say how good it is to see all the support you do for the RHINO, really love what you've done so far & plan on doing in the future!

VPforceBot•2/1/23, 12:04 PM

:package: RHINO #0044 Has Shipped!

PPiNKSH!T that'd be awesome m8, I'll have to give the install a try tomorrow. Also wanted ...

walmis•2/1/23, 12:09 PM

Thanks!

Viktor Martin•2/1/23, 12:18 PM

Damn, I come back after a few weeks and we're from 36 to 44.

Viktor Martin•2/1/23, 12:18 PM

Gg.

PiNKSH!T•2/1/23, 12:19 PM

Walmis has been pumping them out the last few weeks!

I did not dig into it yet, but it is possible to implement moving trim for modules which should have

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