The telemetry window should be a good indication if it works
The telemetry window should be a good indication if it works
Pok, I'm not getting any effects in the f18 & I'm guessing only dcs's ffb effects for the SU25t, just flew both then & nothing comes up in the Telemetry Window
P
Pthose are the two windows that open
PAlso I'm running all this before I start DCS
WCould you post the file
c:/users/<you>/Saved Games/DCS/Scripts/export.lua ?
SI have an issue that may be a DCS fault or maybe how DCS is talking to the VP.
SWhen the stick is moved to a position where the aircraft is flying straight and level annd the controls indicator shows the stick centered, it is REALLY NOT centered. For example here is the A10C_2
S
SWhen flying straight and level, the stick is halfway forward but DCS thinks its centered.
SThis makes maneuvering challenging because I dont have room to push the stick as forward as I need to for DCS to recognize a full forward excursion.
SHere is an even more extreme case. The F5
WThat's how it's implemented in DCS
SAgain, look at the VSI and you'll see Im flying pretty straight and level.
WYou can open Debug tab and see the CP (Center Point) value for spring
SHowever both VP and Windows see the stick almost fully forward (which it is) But DCS thinks its centered. In this case I have almost no ability to make the aircraft dive .
Sok, I am still paused in DCS in an F5 flying straight and level. Here is a pic of the debug tab
S
Swhat am i looking at?
WYou can see virtual center is set by DCS to be -2607 on Y axis
Sso CP is -2607
Syes I see it
Sbut my stick is properly calibrated
S
WYes, it's working properly.
MI use the F5 a lot and yes the stick is trimmed quite far forward in level flight apart from decending for level changes the correct procedure is roll and pull, once in the circuit and your in trim for final and on AOA the stick is quite far back
Sso how do i tell DCS the center point should be zero?
WWell, that's how it is. I think you can change the trim behaviour in SPECIAL options section for the F-5
S
WDisplaced neutral gives this behaviour
S
SI guess I have to experiment
S@mike_aka_mugs what's your setting in this special menu?
Mwill check
Sin linear
Syou can see I can achieve hands off trimmed flight with 5 degrees pitch up and slight back pressure on the stick
M
Snonlinear feels the same as linear.
SFrom what I've read, the stick should provide more back pressure around the center point as this increased resistance allows better fine grained control (the F15 is this way). However the F18 has a linear 40lb pull regardless of stick excursion.
SAnyway, thank you for reassurring me that the issue is my ignorance and confusion.
SBTW CP for linear is 38 and CP for nonlinear is 2045
MFrom mem I have gleaned from NATOPS the F18 has a break out force, then a constant Around 6.5Kg then a big increase in force as you get up into the high AOA
SF18:
SFull pitch travel 40lbs rear(NATOPS claims 35lbs) 20lbs forward with 3lbs breakout force.
3.5-4.5lbs/G
Full roll travel 13lbs with 2lbs breakout force.
Source: AD-A256 522 and A1-F18AC-NFM-000
3.5-4.5lbs/G
Full roll travel 13lbs with 2lbs breakout force.
Source: AD-A256 522 and A1-F18AC-NFM-000
MThat full 40lbs comes in with the AOA cant remember the Range but prob around 11+ AOA
M2.8.2.8 Control Augmentation System (CAS) AOA feedback provides increasing stick force with increasing AOA above 22°
RI've been meaning to ask about VPforce breakout force.. @walmis
To my understanding, "breakout force" is the amount of force needed to move the physical location of the stick away from centre.
It seems in VPforce that with breakout force enabled, the physical position of the stick moves with a lagging reaction of the virtual position depending on force value.
To my understanding, "breakout force" is the amount of force needed to move the physical location of the stick away from centre.
It seems in VPforce that with breakout force enabled, the physical position of the stick moves with a lagging reaction of the virtual position depending on force value.
F!stats
VHey @.flatspin,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0044 on 2023-02-01
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 117 days, median is 116 days, max is 196 days
41 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0044 on 2023-02-01
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 117 days, median is 116 days, max is 196 days
41 Rhinos are shipped in total
T5 to go....
D6 to go….
