Don't really want any trim on pedals since you are constantly adjusting to keep in trim, haven't act

Don't really want any trim on pedals since you are constantly adjusting to keep in trim, haven't actually tried them with a helicopter and autopilot.

PiNKSH!T•2/8/23, 3:21 PM

hmm nice, I really want pedals & a yoke, but I think I might go the route of a VPforce kit & some MFG crosswinds & maybe butcher a old logitech yoke or my honeycomb if I get brave enough! lol

DDrQuinn Don't really want any trim on pedals since you are constantly adjusting to keep ...

PiNKSH!T•2/8/23, 3:23 PM

I've wondered that with irl heli's, do the anti torque pedals trim like the stick does? like in Huey in dcs you force trim stick & it stays in new spot, do the pedals do that too?

DrQuinnOP•2/8/23, 3:34 PM

Yes pedals should stay where you put them. I'm not sure, but I doubt UH-1s had force trim on the pedals.

DrQuinnOP•2/8/23, 3:37 PM

Just looked in the -10, they did have pedal force trim.

TheAmazinGreat•2/8/23, 5:25 PM

@walmis, I am interested in a 2x86BLF03 kit but I see on the order form they are backordered. Any idea when more kits will be in stock? If I put in a request now would I be invoiced now or when they are ready to ship?

TTheAmazinGreat @walmis, I am interested in a 2x86BLF03 kit but I see on the order form they are...

walmis•2/8/23, 5:28 PM

86BLF03 are expected to arrive in early march according to supplier. So if you put your order now, I'll invoice you when I'm ready to ship.

Wwalmis 86BLF03 are expected to arrive in early march according to supplier. So if you p...

TheAmazinGreat•2/8/23, 5:30 PM

Thanks!

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ju_caesar•2/8/23, 6:33 PM

Hey @walmis, I have a couple of questions regarding the 86BLF04 motor kits, as I am currently in the planning and feasibility phase of a DIY build:
1.) In all datasheets I found online the 86BLF04 motor is the weakest of the 86BLF0x line. Strongest to weakest (rated torque, peak torque [Nm]) 86BLF0: 7 (2.1, 6.3), 6 (1.8, 5.4), 1 (1.4, 4.2), 2 (1.05, 3.2), 3 (0.7, 2.1), 4 (0.35, 1.05). Could you maybe clarify what is actually correct?
2.) Do the 86BLF0x come with the same anti-cogging calibration of the Rhino motors?
3.) Again referring to the datasheets I found, the 86BLF0x motors have a rated voltage of 48V. Is this difference mirrored in the architecture of the control boards in comparison to the standard 24V in the Rhino motors?
4.) How far to peak current/torque would you recommend driving the 86BLF04 (as per your specifications)?
5.) What power supply layout would you recommend/would be necessary for 3 motors (stick and pedals), and should the rated amps of the power supply be sufficient to sustain all 3 motors at their peak current?
P.S. I love you Walmis!

walmis•2/8/23, 6:59 PM

Hey @ju_caesar , looks like different manufacturers rate them differently, I've attached the specs.

Yes, definitely. It's even more important, since these larger motors are practically unusable without anticogging.
The rated voltage is only applicable at the rated speed. For FFB applications the max voltage reaches only a couple of Volts but at a very high current. Larger rated voltage = lower KV = more torque The most interesting parameter is Nm per Amp (Nm/A).
The VPforce controller does up to 30A.
I think the Meanwell LRS-350-24 PSU would be a great choice.
Thanks, love you too!

Wwalmis Hey @ju_caesar , looks like different manufacturers rate them differently, I've ...

ju_caesar•2/8/23, 7:26 PM

Thanks a lot!

Whacker•2/8/23, 9:23 PM

So, possibly a silly question.

Is it possible to hot-swap grips while running DCS with this. I.e. I want to swap an F18 grip and like Vipril grip or a F16 grip.

WWhacker So, possibly a silly question. Is it possible to hot-swap grips while running D...

PiNKSH!T•2/9/23, 4:37 AM

Walmis or someone else might be able to answer better how the RHINO itself will handle the hotswap of grips, I can't imagine anything being wrong with doing that, but I do know DCS does support hotswapping of gear unlike IL2 & MSFS2020 from my experience

PPiNKSH!T Walmis or someone else might be able to answer better how the RHINO itself will ...

Whacker•2/9/23, 4:38 AM

I mean I'm running like 5 different stick bases RN. I'd love to consolidate that down to 1 or 2

WWhacker I mean I'm running like 5 different stick bases RN. I'd love to consolidate that...

PiNKSH!T•2/9/23, 4:39 AM

The RHINO will be the only base you ever need m8

PPiNKSH!T The RHINO will be the only base you ever need m8

Whacker•2/9/23, 4:40 AM

I mean, only if I can hot-swap the grips

PiNKSH!T•2/9/23, 4:40 AM

Unless you want to have dual side sticks for space sim etc.

Whacker•2/9/23, 4:40 AM

I will have the FSSB for the viper, but otherwise a hotswappable FSSB setup for other planes would be ideal

walmis•2/9/23, 5:28 AM

Yeah I hot swap the grips no problem.

amadeus•2/9/23, 7:06 AM

is it possible to create buttons from axis ranges, like we can do with the virpil configurator? on my alpha grip I like to map some additional buttons on the thumbstick

walmis•2/9/23, 7:09 AM

VP Alpha thumbstick has axis to buttons implemented

amadeus•2/9/23, 7:09 AM

damn daniel

VPforceBot•2/9/23, 9:03 AM

:package: RHINO #0040 Has Shipped!

Warwolf09•2/9/23, 2:34 PM

!status

WWarwolf09 !status

VPforceBot•2/9/23, 2:34 PM

Hey @warwolf09,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0040 on 2023-02-09
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 120 days, median is 118 days, max is 209 days
42 Rhinos are shipped in total

Wwalmis VP Alpha thumbstick has axis to buttons implemented 🙂

skyPickle•2/9/23, 6:32 PM

I do not see how to implement this in VP force configurator. Yes I know I can do it in virpil software but that requires the virpil base.

walmis•2/9/23, 6:45 PM

It's implicitly enabled

walmis•2/9/23, 6:45 PM

Binds to a hat

skyPickle•2/9/23, 7:02 PM

thank you

amadeus•2/9/23, 8:42 PM

looks like 40 shipped out of order?

boss808450•2/9/23, 8:43 PM

what happened top the bot? i got from 37 to go bumped to 41

amadeus•2/9/23, 8:43 PM

i think it's cause the bot announced an out of order shipment

amadeus•2/9/23, 8:43 PM

and that may have bugged how it reported the numbers? or it was always bugged, and now it's corrected

boss808450•2/9/23, 8:44 PM

i am a yaw2 backer, i can not take another rollercoaster of emotions

amadeus•2/9/23, 8:44 PM

it announced that it shipped 40 today, but the previous message it said it shipped 44, so my guess -- (40 was delayed for some reason, maybe something specific about the order), and that may have confused the bot to subtract 4 from the queue

amadeus•2/9/23, 8:45 PM

(mine showed a similar change -- was 4 to go, now it's 8 to go)

amadeus•2/9/23, 8:46 PM

i wouldn't worry much about it tho

boss808450•2/9/23, 8:46 PM

yeah all good, i am patient in this case, i am glad we have this option at all

walmis•2/9/23, 8:49 PM

Yeah, out of order shipment

walmis•2/9/23, 8:49 PM

next ones will be 45,46,47,48

amadeus•2/9/23, 8:50 PM

based walmis

walmis•2/9/23, 8:52 PM

That one got delayed waiting for monstertech plates, now that I got the restock, things are ready to go

Subtile•2/9/23, 10:34 PM

Hello everybody, hello @walmis !
I'm noob here, and I'd like to thank you for all the great stuff you bring to the Air sim community !

I hope if a kit for Orion2 stickbase from WinWing will be available to buy soon

mechsicko•2/10/23, 1:06 AM

@walmis do you have a cad model of your board the motors/grip/usb/power go to? I can model a mockup for my own purposes but if a cool model of it already exists I'd rather use that. tia

SSubtile Hello everybody, hello @walmis ! I'm noob here, and I'd like to thank you for a...

walmis•2/10/23, 4:55 AM

Hey, thanks. But I don't think a kit for a non-ffb base is feasible, though.

Mmechsicko @walmis do you have a cad model of your board the motors/grip/usb/power go to? I...

walmis•2/10/23, 4:56 AM

Sure, I'll send it to you once I get back to the lab.

Wwalmis Sure, I'll send it to you once I get back to the lab.

mechsicko•2/10/23, 5:25 AM

Many thanks walmis, you are a scholar and a gentleman.

SSubtile Hello everybody, hello @walmis ! I'm noob here, and I'd like to thank you for a...

PiNKSH!T•2/10/23, 5:32 AM

Hey m8, the RHINO base will take the WinWing grips with the use of the adapter Walmis makes. A good idea might be to have the Winwing MFSSB & F-16 grip mounted on the right for flying the F-16 then you can swap the grip over to the center mounted RHINO for flying things like the A-10 etc. Apart from something like a MFSSB the RHINO plus it's adapters is truly the last joystick base you'd ever need.

Spatz•2/10/23, 5:26 PM

Can you guys take my fear of breaking something on the rhino base due to heavy and intense dogfights? Can anybody share his experience with longtime use of the base? How durable is the base and the motors?

SSpatz Can you guys take my fear of breaking something on the rhino base due to heavy a...

walmis•2/10/23, 6:17 PM

If something breaks, be assured that spare parts are available, and it's not too difficult to replace the gimbal

Motors don't have any wearing parts, so should last indefinitely. At least I hope so

Don't really want any trim on pedals since you are constantly adjusting to keep in trim, haven't act

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