Hey @walmis I was wondering about third party grips. Do you think it would be possible to add grips

Hey @walmis I was wondering about third party grips. Do you think it would be possible to add grips like Komodo EC145 or OE-XAM grips to this base?
Or would it require additional soldering perhaps?

I can't seem to find any helicopter grips that would fit the Rhino

Kkeem85 Hey @walmis I was wondering about third party grips. Do you think it would be po...

walmis•3/1/23, 3:19 PM

Yeah an adapter would be needed. Either using a shift register to wire the buttons or using a microcontroller to translate the signals.

Reed•3/1/23, 3:24 PM

Speaking of grips, how does the rhino handle the thrust master warthog versus the virpil alpha their weight is substantially different

RReed Speaking of grips, how does the rhino handle the thrust master warthog versus th...

walmis•3/1/23, 3:27 PM

It handles it just fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbwN7aLhzBA

YouTubeMike Richardson

Rhino Force Feed Back base - Damped return to centre test - DCS F-18

I really like the fact that I can get a much more accurate feel of cable, push-rod or hydraulic control systems, on top of that rotary, no having to swap cam's just one of the things that make the Rhino so good. On this profile I have around 3kg damping force dialed in.

For more info on the FFB Rhino join the discord group
Web: https://vpforc...

Wwalmis It handles it just fine 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbwN7aLhzBA

keem85OP•3/1/23, 3:42 PM

Amazing I like that leather protector. I guess that's something homemade?

Wwalmis Yeah an adapter would be needed. Either using a shift register to wire the butto...

keem85OP•3/1/23, 3:43 PM

This is for advanced soldering people?

keem85OP•3/1/23, 3:44 PM

It seems very advanced

keem85OP•3/1/23, 3:45 PM

My dream is to be able to transform my Komodo EC145 grip in to Rhino compatible

Kkeem85 Amazing I like that leather protector. I guess that's something homemade?

leninjahd•3/1/23, 3:46 PM

I got mine from amazon for cheap

leninjahd•3/1/23, 3:47 PM

@keem85 https://amzn.eu/d/1qWVW2G

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Lleninjahd @keem85 https://amzn.eu/d/1qWVW2G

keem85OP•3/1/23, 3:47 PM

And you 3dprinted a cover to screw it on to?

leninjahd•3/1/23, 4:00 PM

Yes

Kkeem85 And you 3dprinted a cover to screw it on to?

leninjahd•3/1/23, 4:36 PM

here it is

Korper4.stl84.07KB

leninjahd•3/1/23, 4:39 PM

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keem85OP•3/1/23, 6:13 PM

Nice! Would love to know how to make custom grips for the Rhino though. A gamechanger if possible without the need for soldering skills etc.
Is there a guide for doing custom grips for the Rhino?

AndyHill•3/1/23, 6:19 PM

It would be suprising to me if you could make a custom grip completely without soldering

AndyHill•3/1/23, 6:19 PM

But maybe there are suitable electronics available that don't requier too much tinkering

Wwalmis Yeah an adapter would be needed. Either using a shift register to wire the butto...

Kalixto•3/1/23, 7:48 PM

Would be nice to have a wiring scheme for the shift register.

BBoosted the way non-direct drive wheels solve this is they do a "motion range" spin on p...

LeLv30_Superbus•3/1/23, 8:42 PM

Hey I am here only for a game of whack-f*ck

RustBelt•3/1/23, 9:19 PM

Search debolestis shift register.

RustBelt•3/1/23, 9:21 PM

@Kalixto Hate to break it to you, but you will have to learn a basic and valuable skill soldering. Good news is it’s quite easy and not expensive.

ddrake1984•3/1/23, 9:33 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/TinkerJoy_Sigma/comments/113ttik/alright_time_to_put_your_mouth_where_your_money_is/

r/TinkerJoy_Sigma - Alright, time to put your mouth where your mone...

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ddrake1984•3/1/23, 9:43 PM

Sadly, the project didnt get enough community interest and the developer is focusing on making it only for himself, the issue was the price for something like this was gonna be €202, which is a bit much for what it is

ddrake1984•3/1/23, 9:43 PM

Keep in mind when developing and building a joystick

RustBelt•3/1/23, 9:50 PM

3D print or 3D print mold to resin is much cheaper. To say nothing of re tasking injection moulded commercial plastic housings. Like I did with my Thrustmaster X-Fighter B8 grip or the Suncom F-15/hornet stick I’ll eventually get around to finishing now that I have a trigger solution.
Most actual sticks are slush cast resin, not metal. You can slush cast resin in a lot of mold materials.

RustBelt•3/1/23, 9:52 PM

Heck you can carve the stick out of clay, and build a mold off that.

TheAmazinGreat•3/2/23, 2:46 AM

@keem85 @Kalixto I’ve done two custom 3D printed sticks from scratch, both using freejoy as the way to interface with my PC. Version 3 will be modified from V2 for a VPForce DIY kit. Custom design for someone who hasn’t done modeling before will be tough. But wiring has been made very simple by Walmis with the shift register board. It will require basic soldering skills but as @.rustbelt said this is a simple skill to learn. Pair it with the 3D printed F-4 Phantom grip listed above and you would have a great place to start to learn wiring. From there you could move on to learning to model your own grip keeping in mind the things you learned from wiring the previous.

TheAmazinGreat•3/2/23, 2:47 AM

Also my best modeling tip: If I was going to start from scratch again, I would first start with the electronics I wanted and build a grip around them rather than what I did which was build a grip shape and then try to fit buttons and functions in after the fact.

TheAmazinGreat•3/2/23, 2:59 AM

Other modeling tips:
Start with a reference. Virpil as profile views of all their grips with some dimensions, you can use these to help guide how to shape and size your grips.

If you are just starting with modeling, YouTube is your friend. Also practice modeling things you have laying around to learn the different functions and different possibilities to get to the final result.

TheAmazinGreat•3/2/23, 3:25 AM

PCB prototype board kits are a great place to start for through-hole soldering practice. You also might want to buy some bulk buttons/switches to practice soldering wires to the terminals. Making a button box with a freejoy or a bodnar board is a great place to learn soldering and build something practical to use. If you go the freejoy route, you can do a button matrix for a challenge problem, but I would say if you are confident enough to do a button matrix you could manage the shift register wiring and it would be much easier.

Kalixto•3/2/23, 5:35 AM

I've got the grip ready, and I moded a thrustmaster with a teensy PCB, my question is about analog microcontroller, like the joysticks from the Xbox 360 first gen, those have a hall sensor in it. I think you can't use shift register with analog.

TTheAmazinGreat @keem85 @Kalixto I’ve done two custom 3D printed sticks from scratch, both using...

keem85OP•3/2/23, 8:51 AM

Great info, thank you! I think I will be able to solder. but I must know that I am soldering correctly.
I really really want to use a H145 grip (only seen by Komodo and Max Flight Stick so far), but these grips are so incredibly rare, so naturally I'm scared to destroy it.

But let's say I decide to solder my H145 grip. Would I just unscrew it from my Komodo cyclic and cut all the wires about 10-20cm sticking out from underneath the grip? And then solder this "freejoy" on to those sticking-out-cables?

keem85OP•3/2/23, 8:52 AM

And, are there any guides on this on this Discord channel? Would love to watch some videos of people retrofitting older grips.

walmis•3/2/23, 8:53 AM

It says that it has USB2.0 protocol, so I assume it connects to PC directly (kinda like VKB adapter going with the cable)

walmis•3/2/23, 8:53 AM

https://komodosimulations.co.uk/products/h145

walmis•3/2/23, 8:54 AM

oh, it's a collective here

keem85OP•3/2/23, 8:55 AM

(That is a collective grip by the way)

Hmm, but the end-plug on this cyclic grip I have has this weird shaped huge "din-like" plug

keem85OP•3/2/23, 8:55 AM

I'm not home to check it now, but the plug is big, and has like 8 or 10 pins I think

walmis•3/2/23, 8:56 AM

are the pins documented?

keem85OP•3/2/23, 8:56 AM

No, I'm fairly certain they aren't

keem85OP•3/2/23, 8:57 AM

hey I have a pic two sec

keem85OP•3/2/23, 8:59 AM

I'm not at home right now, found on my phone, but here you see the plug going out of the extension and down to the base. It has this big connector

keem85OP•3/2/23, 9:00 AM

It was an incredibly overpriced cyclic for sure, but I love this grip really much. So naturally I don't want to destroy it because of those two reasons. It was custom made for me with grip length fitted to my rig and everything.

Kkeem85 Great info, thank you! I think I will be able to solder. but I **must** know tha...

ju_caesar•3/2/23, 9:18 AM

There is another online shop that has a very nice H145 collective, scanned from an original and then printed via the pulver 3d print (plastic) technology. Don't know the name right now, but might be able to look it up.

Jju_caesar There is another online shop that has a very nice H145 collective, scanned from ...

keem85OP•3/2/23, 9:24 AM

I don't need collective though, only the cyclic grip

keem85OP•3/2/23, 9:25 AM

Have been searching for one but not found it

Kkeem85 I don't need collective though, only the cyclic grip

ju_caesar•3/2/23, 9:25 AM

I was actually trying to write cyclic, but somehow I always write the wrong thing.

keem85OP•3/2/23, 9:26 AM

Both starts with a C

Kkeem85 Both starts with a C 😄

ju_caesar•3/2/23, 9:35 AM

https://shop.microhelis.de/Cyclic-EC-135-145-incl-Basis

Cyclic EC-135/145 incl. Basis

Cyclic Piloten Stick ähnlich zur EC-135 oder EC-145 für Homecockpits (v9) 1 teiliger Handgriff Polyamid Sinterlaserdruck schwarz matt lackiert 7 Taster ang

ju_caesar•3/2/23, 9:36 AM

Quite the hefty price, but maybe if you contact the seller that you only need the grip itself you might get a better deal.

Jju_caesar Quite the hefty price, but maybe if you contact the seller that you only need th...

keem85OP•3/2/23, 9:37 AM

Thank you! I think it was good price, I paid double of this for the Komodo.
Don't like the 3d print surface though

Hey @walmis I was wondering about third party grips. Do you think it would be possible to add grips

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