Installing RatOS 2. What is a "toolboard" and how do I figure out what version I have?

So step 2 of the initial configuration is asking me to pick a toolboard. What is it, and how do I figure out if I have one and what version it is?
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blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
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blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
toolboards are used to simplify connections from MCU to hotend If you don't have one, you can just click skip
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Ok. So it IS possible to not have one. I guess that is my setup, then.
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
I'll fix the title so it's more obvious that it's optional πŸ™‚
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Thanks. I'm just about ready to give it a go. Just need to sort out the probe (had to replace inductive for BL Touch again because glass bed now).
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
ew kek
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
I know, I know... but I am having way too many issues with the bed leveling. I am hoping the glass will help me straighten out a bit.
blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
Why do you think it will help with bed leveling?
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
The glass is pretty flat. I am hoping to find out if the bed is at fault (warped) or if it is something else. Basically troubleshooting. At this point, just trying to figure out what to replace in the printer.cfg.
blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
Take a straight edge to it after heating it up You need to redo all the probe calibration stuff as well as switching the config to use the bltouch instead of the probe
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Done. I can see some warping, though I think it would be too little to be of consequence. I was pretty sure the bed leveling would compensate. The probelm, as you may recall from my first tirades, is that it never helped. Yes, I am aware. Just can't find the probe config in the documentation. Still searching.
blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
Take some tape and wrap it around the z leadsscrews to make flags. Then you can watch as it prints the flags move and prove to yourself it is adjusting the print
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
No, no... it moves, alright. You can see that. The problem has always been that it doesn't seem to be "enough". I don't really know how to better explain it. So imagine a 100x100 base layer. My printer always starts the first layer bottom right corner (front of the printer) and then starts filling in to the top left. It starts off wonderful. Then you start to notice the lines starting to get jagged and more and more squished. Some light stringing starts to occure. So I lift the Z a tad (normally 0.05 though sometimes it calls for 0.1).
blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
That is most likely the X gantry bending
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
By the end of the first layer, sometimes I have adjusted over 0.4mm. Maybe. Hence the troubleshooting step. If the glass performs the same, I have all reason to believe I have an issue with X.
blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
You can test this. Do a cold bed mesh. Then heat everything up and wait 15 minutes, then mesh again
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Ok. But for now I need to correct my cfg since I have already replaced the probes. Then I will test as per your suggestion.
blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
GitHub
RatOS-configuration/v-core-3-printer.template.cfg at v2.x Β· Rat-OS/...
The RatOS modular klipper configuration. Contribute to Rat-OS/RatOS-configuration development by creating an account on GitHub.
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Ahhhh, this is it. Bookmarking that page. So I guess I need to include and uncomment this: BL Touch #[include RatOS/z-probe/bltouch.cfg]
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
And then remove this:
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blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
Not remove, just comment it out. Using the #
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Made these 2 changes:
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NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Here goes... Oh boy... I hate messing with the configs πŸ˜•
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
So, here's my 2 cents: 1) Your problem is not the static shape of your bed or mesh leveling. 2) Your problem is mechanical and can be any one or a combination of the following a) probe drift b) sagging z arms - these need to be level (they can also sag over time as they heat up) c) bed shape changing over time because it wasn't properly pre-heated and allowed to settle d) loose couplers e) Overly tightened x and/or y rails so that thermal expansion causes the gantry to bend unpredictably over time with heat 3) Glass sucks πŸ™‚ But do tell if the glass fixes your problems, i like to be surprised πŸ˜„
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
I'm actually not too confident it will solve anything. From all the tests and experiments done so far, I tend to believe it'll be some hardware issue. I was going to test it, but now since updating to RatOS 2, I can't get KlipperScreen to start on the tablet. So I have no emergency stop. And I don't feel like testing my printer.cfg changes without the relative security of an emergency stop button πŸ˜„ I reinstalled KlipperScreen. Made sure it was running (according to RatOS, it seems to be).
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
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NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
And then, there is the most recent KlipperScreen log:
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
The only issue I see might be the 404 Client Error>>Not Found for url>>http://127.0.0.1:7125/machine/device_power/devices Everything else seems to be ok.
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
Well you have to go through that whole process of setting up a klipper screen proxy or whatever is needed to make that actually work on tablets. It's not something that just works out of the box.
blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
I think someone else just recently posted about klipperscreen issues
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
different issue Did you try doing what it says on the screen?
blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
I guess I need to add klipperscreen to my vcore3 200 build since it seems to come up often and I've never used it
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
in this case he's trying to run it on a tablet which requires and x11 proxy
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
I can't figure out if I need to do it from Console or using some ssh like putty?
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
ssh. It's not gcode πŸ˜„
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Ok Let me give it a whirl.
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
I'm pretty sure you followed some guide initially to get this working. I suggest finding that guide again.
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Nope. It was MΓ‘rcio Pereira that set it up for us. Don't know if you know him.
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
Aaah, yeah so Marcio followed a guide πŸ˜„
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Probably.
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
I do, he's an OG member of the RR beta team
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Can't seem to reach him today. Probably busy. He's mentioned you as well, a couple of times.
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Yup. I'm there. I've been around computers for the better part of 30 years... I am a proficient poweruse when it comes to all things Windows. But damn, I just fall to pieces whenever it is Linux related.
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
Yeah linux is like learning to speak russian when coming from windows πŸ˜„
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Great analogy. I just realized I don't know where the probe calibration tool is in the klipper interface. I only ever did it using the KlipperScreen.
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
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NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
So yeah.... Just about as crappy as before. Close to a millimeter when cold.
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
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NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
he only positive is that the results were pretty consistent after 15 minutes heating at 80 degrees.
blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
Post in #fix-my-mesh I bet they can help you get it better. I bet it's partially frame related
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
I hope so. After all these months, I got the print quality mostly ok. Just this level mess holding me back now.
blacksmithforlife
blacksmithforlifeβ€’2y ago
One of my favorite mods is the dual rail X. My mesh basically doesn't change much when going from open air PLA to enclosed 50⁰ camber abs
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
Looks like the x-rail was tightened from the outside in, instead of from one side to the other or middle out. And with too much torque at that. try that and see if it helps. If it doesn't i'd try rotating the X extrusion 180 degrees. That said, bed mesh should be able to compensate for this
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Sorry... Out of office yesterday. Not a good day. So the x rail os the one where the extruder slides, right? Is there a proper torque? Because I have access to torque keys.
miklschmidt
miklschmidtβ€’2y ago
correct No specific number besides "light". But try 2-2.5Nm that should be enough. Also if you have a screw in every single hole, take them out, you only need about every third hole.
NMGMarques
NMGMarquesβ€’2y ago
Will try something.
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