fair-rose

Steam Deck - Games work on Desktop Mode, but wont launch in Gaming Mode

Good afternoon, About half a year ago I had Heroic working and installed some games. Ended up taking a break and coming back, though I did frequently update Heroic when an update would come out (Flatpak so I used Discover store). For some reason, all of the games I install via Heroic work on Desktop mode no issues (whether launched via Heroic directly or through Steam on the Desktop). However, those same games will not launch via Gaming Mode, the process just appears to die. Would anyone happen to know what sorts of things would cause this to happen? What are the differences between running games via Desktop Mode and Gaming Mode? Something else to add, I used to be able to play Brutal Doom via the GZDoom flatpak via Gaming and Desktop mode in the not too distant past. One day I decided to boot it up via Gaming mode and it would not longer work, only on Desktop Mode, which is when this whole problem began. Any help would be much appreciated!

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fair-roseOP•3y ago

heroic-2023-04-10T23...

plain-purple•3y ago

can you show a game log, not the global heroic log? also, are you setting a compatibility tool in Steam?

fair-rose•3y ago

I know that for some reason enable dxvk was fixing gamemode problems But that only applies for wine-ge

fair-roseOP•3y ago

I will try and find it Oddly enough, I am completely unable to set compatibility options in Steam when it is a game installed and added to Steam via Heroic Launcher, the Compatibility Settings box is grayed out

plain-purple•3y ago

good. you shouldn't be doing it

fair-roseOP•3y ago

"Auto Install/Update DXVK on Prefix" is checked for the game, it should be good to go Wine Version is set to "Wine - Wine-GE-Proton7-42"

fair-rose•3y ago

Just start the game from gamemode Afterwards switch to desktop mode Go to the gamepage of the game and press the report a problem button Post the log here as file or via paste.bin

fair-roseOP•3y ago

understood And thank you for your assistance

fair-roseOP•3y ago

1205406003-lastPlay....

plain-purple•3y ago

wine: failed to open "/home/deck/Games/Heroic/EVERSPACE\xe2\x84\xa2 2/Everspace2.exe": c0000135

Could it be that the ™️ in the folder name is throwing things off?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

I will give that a try the "tm" is in steam, heroic, and the name of the folder, so they all match. I removed the "tm" from the folder and tried to launch and receive an error that the game folder appears to be deleted That may not be the root cause, the game works perfectly fine on Desktop Mode, but something about Game Mode makes this, other Heroic Games, and even Brutal Doom simply not work. My guess, is it is something to do with flatpaks?

fair-rose•3y ago

Something todo with locale i guess? Or it could be permission issues ? That reminds me of something Someone could not add games and he just changed the permission of some folder to root and back to user perm and this fixed it So might be related to that

fair-roseOP•3y ago

here is the log from desktop in which it works

fair-roseOP•3y ago

message.txt

fair-roseOP•3y ago

that makes some sense. What would interest me is if permissions can differ between DEsktop and gaming mode

fair-rose•3y ago

Maybe but i never had your problem I just know that somehow heroic once reported that a folder did not exist and it turned out just changing the perm to root and back to user fixed it

fair-roseOP•3y ago

would explain why non steam games would work for one and not the otherh went into Flatseal > All Applications > Filesystem and gave access to All system files to eliminate a variable. Did not work

plain-purple•3y ago

when you change the folder name, you have to tell Heroic to change the install path so it knows where to look

fair-roseOP•3y ago

I wonder if I can just launch Heroic Laucher in game mode like Battle.net, that seems to work I am aware, but the fact that it launches via Heroic and Steam on desktop mode and not gaming mode leads me to believe the "tm" is not the root cause

plain-purple•3y ago

we're in a situation where minute differences can be the cause when the failed log says wine: failed to open "/home/deck/Games/Heroic/EVERSPACE\xe2\x84\xa2 2/Everspace2.exe": c0000135

fair-roseOP•3y ago

Indeed, however no game works via Heroic Launcher in Gaming Mode, not just Everspace. Brutal Doom and other flatpak games are the same thing, so I do not believe it is the "tm" I can try again, give me a moment

plain-purple•3y ago

there's also a newer version of wine-GE 7-43 worth a shot to update that too

fair-roseOP•3y ago

Yes I am running the newest one available to download via Wine Manager in Heroic, Wine-GE-Proton7-42

plain-purple•3y ago

refresh

fair-roseOP•3y ago

ill give 43 a shot works just fine in Desktop Mode

plain-purple•3y ago

launched through your Steam shortcut?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

give me a sec Launching via Steam in Desktop Mode does not work on 43 as it did on 42 will try Gaming Mode Gaming mode still does not launch What are the actual differences between Gaming Mode and Desktop Mode configuration wise? Is there somewhere I can go to view those differences and change them? The permissions issue pointed out earlier makes sense, as it seems like a flatpak will not run via Gaming Mode like it does in Desktop Mode, I just do not have the Linux knowledge to know why

plain-purple•3y ago

can you provide the complete launch options from the Steam shortcut?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

sure standby

plain-purple•3y ago

the answer will be in here somewhere. launching via Heroic isn't a problem, but launching via Steam in either mode seems to be the issue and you did say that you used Heroic to add the Steam shortcut, correct?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

run com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl --no-gui --no-sandbox "heroic://launch/1205406003" Yes, I used heroic so it would autopopulate whatever launch commands were necessary

plain-purple•3y ago

in desktop mode, try running flatpak run com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl --no-gui --no-sandbox "heroic://launch/1205406003" and see what shakes out that's what the Steam shortcut is ultimately running

fair-roseOP•3y ago

yes sir, standby process immediately dies, no launch actually standby, let me try something

plain-purple•3y ago

do any Heroic-like logs start filling in? for example:

(deck@steamdeck ~)$ flatpak run com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl heroic://launch/1454587428 --no-gui --no-sandbox
[13:0411/114957.693406:ERROR:bus.cc(399)] Failed to connect to the bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
Gtk-Message: 11:49:59.183: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[13:0411/114959.244023:ERROR:bus.cc(399)] Failed to connect to the bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[13:0411/114959.244059:ERROR:bus.cc(399)] Failed to connect to the bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Connection]:       Connectivity: check-online
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Connection]:       Pinging external endpoints
which: no wine in (/app/bin:/app/bin:/app/utils/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lib/extensions/vulkan/MangoHud/bin:/usr/lib/extensions/vulkan/OBSVkCapture/bin:/app/bin/heroic/resources/app.asar.unpacked/build/bin/linux)
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Legendary]:        Running command: /app/bin/heroic/resources/app.asar.unpacked/build/bin/linux/legendary --version
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Legendary]:        Legendary location: /app/bin/heroic/resources/app.asar.unpacked/build/bin/linux/legendary
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Gog]:              GOGDL location: /app/bin/heroic/resources/app.asar.unpacked/build/bin/linux/gogdl
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Gog]:              GOGDL location: /app/bin/heroic/resources/app.asar.unpacked/build/bin/linux/gogdl
APPIMAGE env is not defined, current application is not an AppImage
LaunchProcess: failed to execvp:
xdg-settings
(11:49:59) WARNING: [Backend]:          Failed to register protocol with OS.
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Connection]:       Connectivity: online

(deck@steamdeck ~)$ flatpak run com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl heroic://launch/1454587428 --no-gui --no-sandbox
[13:0411/114957.693406:ERROR:bus.cc(399)] Failed to connect to the bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
Gtk-Message: 11:49:59.183: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[13:0411/114959.244023:ERROR:bus.cc(399)] Failed to connect to the bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[13:0411/114959.244059:ERROR:bus.cc(399)] Failed to connect to the bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Connection]:       Connectivity: check-online
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Connection]:       Pinging external endpoints
which: no wine in (/app/bin:/app/bin:/app/utils/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lib/extensions/vulkan/MangoHud/bin:/usr/lib/extensions/vulkan/OBSVkCapture/bin:/app/bin/heroic/resources/app.asar.unpacked/build/bin/linux)
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Legendary]:        Running command: /app/bin/heroic/resources/app.asar.unpacked/build/bin/linux/legendary --version
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Legendary]:        Legendary location: /app/bin/heroic/resources/app.asar.unpacked/build/bin/linux/legendary
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Gog]:              GOGDL location: /app/bin/heroic/resources/app.asar.unpacked/build/bin/linux/gogdl
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Gog]:              GOGDL location: /app/bin/heroic/resources/app.asar.unpacked/build/bin/linux/gogdl
APPIMAGE env is not defined, current application is not an AppImage
LaunchProcess: failed to execvp:
xdg-settings
(11:49:59) WARNING: [Backend]:          Failed to register protocol with OS.
(11:49:59) INFO:    [Connection]:       Connectivity: online

fair-roseOP•3y ago

figured if I switched back to GE-42 it may work, same deal standby for logs

fair-roseOP•3y ago

message.txt

plain-purple•3y ago

Wine version Wine - Wine-GE-Proton7-43 is not valid

what now?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

standby will run 43 again, and 42 if you want

plain-purple•3y ago

one other thing to try running via Konsole: xdg-open "heroic://launch/1205406003" some people were saying Heroic-added shortcuts weren't working, so they had to go a roundabout way of adding a desktop shortcut then adding that desktop shortcut to Steam

fair-roseOP•3y ago

message.txt

fair-roseOP•3y ago

same deal switching back to 43

plain-purple•3y ago

try the xdg-open command in Konsole to see if Heroic starts running via that

fair-roseOP•3y ago

ran the konsole command and the game launched

plain-purple•3y ago

which one? flatpak run or xdg-open?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

xdg

plain-purple•3y ago

did flatpak run have any errors before kicking you back to the prompt again?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

I do not see a command for flatpak run, just the xdg command above

plain-purple•3y ago

fair-roseOP•3y ago

Apologies I missed that, standby it runs via flatpuk run flatpak*

plain-purple•3y ago

try editing the Steam shortcut so that the target now says /usr/bin/flatpak instead of just flatpak this might not make a difference, but I'm just trying to eliminate some random edge cases

fair-roseOP•3y ago

change the Target field to "/usr/bin/flatpak" correct?

plain-purple•3y ago

yes

fair-roseOP•3y ago

does not run

plain-purple•3y ago

in theory, this shouldn't change the way it's launched, but stranger things have happened

fair-roseOP•3y ago

yeah this whole situation boggles my mind, it worked months ago, just decided not work one day

plain-purple•3y ago

you're not the only one who has said the Steam shortcut has failed

fair-roseOP•3y ago

well it all started when I tried to boot Brutal Doom via Gaming Mode, tinkered and nothing would work. Then I tried to launch games from Heroic and they wouldnt launch either. The biggest commonality is that they are non steam games and ran via flatpak however, if I run blizzard launcher exe with proton via Steam, it runs fine and I can play stuff. So in my mind I assume there is something going on with the flatpak, permissions, or there is some weird difference between Desktop and Gaming mode

plain-purple•3y ago

I don't think this is strictly a Heroic issue. seems like a weird flatpak thing try

flatpak repair

systemctl restart flatpak-system-helper.service

flatpak update

flatpak repair

systemctl restart flatpak-system-helper.service

flatpak update

fair-roseOP•3y ago

exactly standby finished, does not launch on Desktop, will try gaming mode no luck

plain-purple•3y ago

try changing the Steam shortcut to be target xdg-open with launch options "heroic://launch/1205406003" another thing to try is to reset Flatseal permissions for Heroic back to default

fair-roseOP•3y ago

running now: xdg-open com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl --no-gui --no-sandbox "heroic://launch/1205406003" does not run

plain-purple•3y ago

no, get rid of com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl --no-gui --no-sandbox

fair-rose•3y ago

Please change the perm of the folder via the filesystem not flatseal

fair-roseOP•3y ago

standby

fair-rose•3y ago

It does not sound like flatpak problem

plain-purple•3y ago

which folder are you thinking of?

fair-rose•3y ago

The installation folder of the game

fair-roseOP•3y ago

the install folder has full read/write/execute permissions, going to tick the "Apply changes to all subfolders" box just to try

plain-purple•3y ago

ls -la /home/deck/Games/Heroic to double check too should be 755 (rwxr-xr-x)

fair-roseOP•3y ago

no launch through steam, launches via heroic

plain-purple•3y ago

launching via Heroic isn't going to be your issue here. it's calling Heroic that seems to be it

fair-roseOP•3y ago

yep done

plain-purple•3y ago

why wine is saying an .exe isn't found in the failed log is weird

fair-rose•3y ago

Permission problems Mostly

plain-purple•3y ago

have you run any commands relating to flatpak or Heroic using sudo by chance? as in, ever

fair-roseOP•3y ago

to my knowledge, no. I do not delve too far into any of that as I am not as knowledgeable as I should be with Linux is there a way to revert permissions? I think that may be the culprit

fair-rose•3y ago

Just set permission to user Where did you installed your games? On an external drive ?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

microsd

fair-rose•3y ago

Did you gave permission via flatseal?

plain-purple•3y ago

wait what?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

actually, Heroic appears to be installed on the internal storage and its games apologies

fair-rose•3y ago

Does a game launch from the internal?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

previously yes, anything would launch via Heroic and Gaming Mode and I install to wherever Heroic defaults to now, heroic games will only launch on desktop

plain-purple•3y ago

here's my understanding of it. the game launches from: Heroic in desktop mode, Konsole using flatpak run ... and xdg-open ... in desktop mode the game does not launch from the Steam shortcut in gaming mode is this correct?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

If I could see the permissions Desktop mode are set to maybe I could mirror to Gaming

fair-rose•3y ago

Just right click on folder and properties

plain-purple•3y ago

folder permissions do not change between the two modes they're set on the files themselves

fair-roseOP•3y ago

correct. The game did launch via steam on Desktop, but only with the default launch options given via "add game to steam" via Heroic

fair-rose•3y ago

Just change the permission to something other and back to the original and try again

fair-roseOP•3y ago

that is what I thought as well

fair-rose•3y ago

That fixed some similiar problem for some other iser

fair-roseOP•3y ago

yes changed, saved, and reverted the permissions of /home/deck/games/heroic/Everspace 2 back, will launch again same deal just tried resetting to default in flatseal for Heroic, did not work

plain-purple•3y ago

are you restarting Heroic after you do this?

fair-roseOP•3y ago

just tried resetting gzdoom to default via flatseal for the hell of it as I have the same problem with it, works Desktop and not in Gaming Mode. GZdoom launcher will load the .wad selection but not the game no, but I went from gaming back to Desktop so that should count tempted to reset all applications to default via flatseal

fair-rose•3y ago

Btw close heroic if you swap from desktop to gamemode

fair-roseOP•3y ago

understood

fair-rose•3y ago

Do you have a small game without any special characters we could test I would love to see another log of another game

fair-roseOP•3y ago

yeah standby

plain-purple•3y ago

maybe an Epic game as well

fair-roseOP•3y ago

I dont have an Epic account

plain-purple•3y ago

ah ok it would have been to see if legendary worked differently from gogdl

fair-rose•3y ago

Yes epic game would probably tell us if it is a general problem or a problem of gogdl

fair-roseOP•3y ago

standby have to take the dog out I am leaning more on a permissions issue with flatpaks or somewhere on the OS, as Heroic is not the only thing there is an issue with that is exactly like this

plain-purple•3y ago

nuclear options: reinstall SteamOS, reimage Deck. I can't think of a reason why Steam running the flatpak run command would fail when the same command via Konsole is OK

fair-roseOP•3y ago

yeah, was trying to avoid that but it may have to happen okay, Cathedral installs via heroic with default WINE settings and launches via Heroic and Steam on Desktop. Will try Gaming mode

fair-rose•3y ago

Prepare gamelogs after

fair-roseOP•3y ago

oddly enough, by miracle, it works via Gaming Mode too

fair-rose•3y ago

So it is the special character

fair-roseOP•3y ago

maybe, that one game works, but others do not without special characters, such as bio menace

fair-rose•3y ago

That could be some other error We need to see if another game without special character has the same error

fair-roseOP•3y ago

easy, standby System Info: Heroic Version: 2.7.0 Eustass Kid Legendary Version: 0.20.32 Dark Energy (hotfix #6) GOGdl Version: 0.7.1 Electron Version: 23.1.4 Chrome Version: 110.0.5481.192 NodeJS Version: 18.12.1 OS: Freedesktop SDK KERNEL: 5.13.0-valve36-1-neptune ARCH: x64 CPU: AMD Custom APU 0405 @2.73 GOVERNOR: schedutil RAM: Total: 11.52 GiB Available: 7.56 GiB GRAPHICS: GPU0: VanGogh [AMD Custom GPU 0405] VRAM: 512MB PROTOCOL: x11 AudioManager: Audio Source () created from Data Source FileSystem. AudioManager: Audio Source () created from Data Source FileSystem. AudioManager: Audio Source () created from Data Source FileSystem. AudioManager: Audio Source () created from Data Source FileSystem. AudioManager: Manager successfully shutdown. Launch command: ['/home/deck/Games/Heroic/Cathedral/start.sh'] All processes exited that is the log for Cathedral, which universally worked

fair-rose•3y ago

Thats a linux game

fair-roseOP•3y ago

i can reinstall as Windows

fair-rose•3y ago

For native linux games you sometimes need to enable steam runtime

fair-roseOP•3y ago

will have to look into that, not aware of that the runtimes appear to all be installed and enabled, Steam Linux Runtime looks good, I verified integrity of tool files as well Windows Cathedral runs via GE-42 on Desktop and Gaming Mode

fair-roseOP•3y ago

message.txt

fair-roseOP•3y ago

and that should be the log for the last launch via gaming mode

fair-rose•3y ago

So it is the special character And each game has there own problems

fair-roseOP•3y ago

odd maybe the issues iwth the other flatpaks via gaming mode are not related to Heroic in Gaming

fair-rose•3y ago

Yes always check thr logs Do you have another game to check So we can be sure that it is three different issues

fair-roseOP•3y ago

ill try another Windows game and see if I can replicate the issue

plain-purple•3y ago

Change Install Path can be used to rename a folder to get rid of special characters, such as ™️

plain-purple•3y ago

looks like in the last log you posted, the game folder still has ™️ in the name rename the folder in Dolphin then use Change Install Path to point to the renamed folder

fair-roseOP•3y ago

good idea, I will try this as well Bards tale trilogy windows works on steam/heroic via desktop and Gaming mode changed the name of the folder to remove the special character, changed the install path to the renamed folder and it launches via Heroic does not launch via Steam desktop or gaming though and it is using the default xdg-open launch options

plain-purple•3y ago

change this back to the flatpak command flatpak in the target run com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl --no-gui --no-sandbox "heroic://launch/1205406003" launch options

fair-roseOP•3y ago

for the sake of argument, I removed the non steam game from steam and readded it to steam via Heroic after the folder change I launched the new shortcut in steam and it ran via Desktop

plain-purple•3y ago

post a new game log from desktop mode, then one from game mode where it presumably will fail

fair-roseOP•3y ago

message.txt

fair-roseOP•3y ago

that is the log for the Steam Desktop mode shortcut working I launched and it behaved as if it failed so I launched again and it behaved as it failed...however about 2-3 seconds later it actually ran will try Gaming Mode holy hell it actually launched in Gaming Mode and I do not know why or how

plain-purple•3y ago

I did call this out 2.5 hours ago 😛

fair-roseOP•3y ago

And of course I conflated other issues I was having with flatpaks with this issue mountain out of a mole hill I apologize

plain-purple•3y ago

fair-roseOP•3y ago

cant troubleshoot without assuming something worse than something more obvious lol you are right now to figure out why GZDoom is ridiculous I appreciate you guys help!

plain-purple•3y ago

you're welcome next time, don't push back against proposed solutions. I did suggest removing the ™️ but you resisted changing it

fair-roseOP•3y ago

Understood, however, I did not push back. The missing step was changing the install path which I did not think to do that small step I forgot to do wasted you guys time there

plain-purple•3y ago

fair. at least you know next time if there's a special character in the title to just rename it on installation to avoid this

fair-roseOP•3y ago

exactly

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