VPforce Controls•3y ago

Yes the first detente of the trigger

TC-DurhamOP•4/21/23, 2:11 AM

Are you available for a call on Discord?

TC-DurhamOP•4/21/23, 2:11 AM

Or telephone?

TTC-Durham Yes the first detente of the trigger

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 2:11 AM

ahh ok, can you plug the grip into the virpil base & make that a pulse not a constant button press?

TTC-Durham Are you available for a call on Discord?

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 2:13 AM

not right now, I could soon like 30min

TC-DurhamOP•4/21/23, 2:13 AM

The Virpil software is no longer working as the base is gone, so it cannot read anything.

PPiNKSH!T not right now, I could soon like 30min

TC-DurhamOP•4/21/23, 2:14 AM

That sounds great, although you are able to use all your vkb software as you have a pass through from the grip

TTC-Durham That sounds great, although you are able to use all your vkb software as you hav...

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 2:16 AM

yeah I really like the idea of the passthrough for that reason, maybe as Walmis does more work if it's possible he could add config software for the different grips that plug direct in

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 2:17 AM

So it looks like the trouble is that trigger being constant, when you're in the DCS keybind settings can you press the wanted button & get it to come up at all?

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 2:18 AM

you could also take note of the button # for each physical button & when binding in DCS manually add the button for each, I'll have to check that

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 2:20 AM

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 2:21 AM

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 2:21 AM

that will at least let you get some bindings started

TC-DurhamOP•4/21/23, 2:25 AM

Works perfectly without the 20cm extension

TTC-Durham Works perfectly without the 20cm extension

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 2:41 AM

wha?

TTC-Durham Works perfectly without the 20cm extension

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 2:42 AM

without the extension the button isn't constant?

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 2:42 AM

if that's the case try re-seating the grip & extension

TTC-Durham Click to see attachment

amadeus•4/21/23, 2:49 AM

what grip do you have? i have the alpha, and that's the trigger lever, which defaults to pressed when extended. If i pull the trigger switch in, it then becomes unpressed

amadeus•4/21/23, 2:52 AM

Pressed

amadeus•4/21/23, 2:52 AM

Unpressed

TC-DurhamOP•4/21/23, 2:54 AM

Ok - removed the 20cm extension and now no errant button pushes, so ready to go into dcs and see if I can set up force trim in the apache

TC-DurhamOP•4/21/23, 2:57 AM

This extension has been a dick for some time, and basically stopped me swapping grips for different planes - I have four grips - CM2, F14, TMF18 and TM-A10. Used to be able to swap in a couple of minutes, but the extension was so picky, once I got it working I just left it alone.

Aamadeus what grip do you have? i have the alpha, and that's the trigger lever, which def...

TC-DurhamOP•4/21/23, 2:58 AM

Yes when the guard is down get a press on btn6, which goes away when I unsafe it.

TC-DurhamOP•4/21/23, 2:59 AM

Here goes force trim!

PPiNKSH!T if that's the case try re-seating the grip & extension

TC-DurhamOP•4/21/23, 3:12 AM

Getting closer - you available - going to voice in case you are

TTC-Durham Getting closer - you available - going to voice in case you are

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 3:14 AM

oh shit sorry m8, give me a min

TTC-Durham Can anyone tell me why button 1 is permanently red (pushed) on my system just li...

sydost•4/21/23, 6:54 AM

I don't know why it is like that but you can invert the button from VPForce configurator's button mapping tab. It should solve the problem not being able to map buttons in DCS.

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 10:00 AM

So is there any way to configure the Virpil & Winwing grips via the VPforce config app? Or if I buy Virpil & Winwing grips will I still need to buy the bases too?

PPiNKSH!T So is there any way to configure the Virpil & Winwing grips via the VPforce conf...

walmis•4/21/23, 10:05 AM

What do you mean to configure? They're plug and play

Wwalmis What do you mean to configure? They're plug and play

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 10:11 AM

I just mean how with the Virpil software you get the options to do different things with the buttons/axis etc. can we do the same sort of configuration in the vpforce app?

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 10:13 AM

like if this was with my vkb (I don't own virpil/WW atm) I can change the flip trigger to act differently depending how I set it, I imagine that virpil/WW have similar configurability & can we do the same thing with vpforce?

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 10:13 AM

sorry if I'm making this confusing

walmis•4/21/23, 12:08 PM

There's limited stuff you can manipulate with the Rhino software. Since there's tools (such as joystick Gremlin) that can do the more advanced stuff, I haven't put in much effort to cover all the edge use cases

Wwalmis There's limited stuff you can manipulate with the Rhino software. Since there's ...

PiNKSH!T•4/21/23, 1:43 PM

yeah nice, I kinda forgot about JG

PiNKSH!T•4/22/23, 4:35 PM

Hey Walmis, just wondering what's going on here? This might be normal I might need to run the debug to get a proper log for you, I'm getting motor vibration/shudder occasionally when going to full x deflection, I'm also using software endstops, this hasn't happened during flight but can happen when between flights & the stick has gone 'limp' & I move it to the x endstop. Is this the motor's doing their self protection thing? the motor temp was around 34° is this too hot? I wouldn't think it was especially with the fans & as I say it's not happening when flying. Does it just not like touching the endstop while in the 'limp' state it's in between flights & I just need to be careful not to be tempted to move the stick unless flying? Sorry for the txt wall.

smitty•4/22/23, 4:37 PM

i had the same thing last night with XPForce.. i made a post here but deleted since it cleared up after a reboot

smitty•4/22/23, 4:38 PM

my motors were dead cold though and the repeating disconnects happened right away. not sure what the problem was, it was only with the joystic not the pedal single axis.

smitty•4/22/23, 4:39 PM

i made sure the joystick was the "master device" in xpforce config also

PPiNKSH!T Hey Walmis, just wondering what's going on here? This might be normal I might ne...

walmis•4/22/23, 5:02 PM

Yeah, I have a fix committed for the next firmware update.

Ssmitty i made sure the joystick was the "master device" in xpforce config also

walmis•4/22/23, 5:03 PM

I've noticed the author of XPforce started working on better multi device support

smitty•4/22/23, 5:17 PM

it mostly works.. kinda finicky though

amadeus•4/23/23, 1:57 AM

here's a random thing -- i've been playing some IL2, and all a sudden the LEDs on my virpil alpha grip, attached to the rhino, turned on thonk

amadeus•4/23/23, 1:58 AM

(is that something to be worried about? like, they've never worked before... and I assume if i disconnect and re-connect, the LEDs will stop working)

amadeus•4/23/23, 1:58 AM

Proof that I’m not crazy…

TC-DurhamOP•4/23/23, 2:40 AM

With a lot of messing around with my virpil 200mm extension, I got it to send a constant push on button 1, which then upset DCS as I could not configure any controls without them being overwritten by button 1, which does not exist. Tried the invert to no effect, so just set it to zero and nothing seen by DCS.

TC-DurhamOP•4/23/23, 2:42 AM

amadeus•4/23/23, 3:19 AM

Your bug is so weird, cause even with the button constantly activating for me when I have the lever pushed out, it doesn’t fight when attempting to create other binds with the grip thonk

amadeus•4/23/23, 3:20 AM

DCS only activates the bind if there’s a state change from off to on for me, I have lots of switches on my virpil button boxes that are toggles that are always on and never had problems with binds in DCS

TonyZ2525•4/23/23, 3:23 AM

@amadeus Which stick grip do you have plugged in ?

amadeus•4/23/23, 3:23 AM

In the photo I just posted above? It’s the Virpil Alpha grip

TonyZ2525•4/23/23, 3:24 AM

@.durham

Yes the first detente of the trigger

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