Settings question: if the game is taking over the centering force instead of it being the spring for

Settings question: if the game is taking over the centering force instead of it being the spring force in the settings, is that considered a periodic effect?

JJarmak Settings question: if the game is taking over the centering force instead of it ...

Number481•7/28/23, 2:34 PM

no, that is controlled by the Spring slider

Number481•7/28/23, 2:35 PM

the spring setting defines the max.. the game could make it lower or non existent

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 2:36 PM

so what is going on there, is the game invoking a spring force function in the firmware?

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 2:36 PM

Because my centering force in the apache is way stronger than in the F18

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 2:36 PM

"centering" in the case of force trim

Number481•7/28/23, 2:37 PM

its part of the FFB sdk library. Each module in DCS implements their own FFB, so its not going to be universal across modules.

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 2:38 PM

if I make the spring force sticky will that mean it's what it's set to instead of what the maximum is?

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 2:39 PM

The purpose of these questions is I'm trying to tighten up the centering force on the 18 and Harrier

Number481•7/28/23, 2:39 PM

Yes. But it also wont disengage the spring if you disable force trim in a helicopter

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 2:40 PM

Yes, but I have a seperate profile for helos so that's fine

Number481•7/28/23, 2:41 PM

If you use TelemFFB (wip version), there is a file you can use to define Rhino profiles per module

Number481•7/28/23, 2:41 PM

Its a new thing walmis implemented (I haven't actually tested it yet)

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 2:42 PM

That's tempting, I've avoided it so far because I'm wary of adding even more exports

Number481•7/28/23, 2:42 PM

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 2:42 PM

I'm already exporting for WW and Simshaker

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 2:42 PM

and streamdeck

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 2:43 PM

maybe I'll try it today

Number481•7/28/23, 2:44 PM

check out https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1091401951951982602 I added some documentation for TelemFFB yesterday (basic setup info and links to the releases)

Number481•7/28/23, 2:47 PM

the export is pretty light weight in the grand scheme of things.. prob on par with Simshaker

NNumber481 check out https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1091401951951982602 I...

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 2:51 PM

holy hell there's physical throw limit adapters now?

Number481•7/28/23, 2:52 PM

yeah.. they work great

NNumber481 Click to see attachment

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:06 PM

where do the config files have to live for it to load them?

JJarmak where do the config files have to live for it to load them?

Number481•7/28/23, 7:10 PM

I believe you need to put them in the root folder of TelemFFB

walmis•7/28/23, 7:17 PM

FIY, The config loading stuff will work properly in the next firmware/sw release

Wwalmis FIY, The config loading stuff will work properly in the next firmware/sw release

Number481•7/28/23, 7:18 PM

that would explain why everything went sideways when I just tried to test it

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:19 PM

What's the max motor current for the rhino motors?

walmis•7/28/23, 7:19 PM

30A

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:21 PM

Why would allowing damper gain above 0% induce vibration/oscilation? do I have a Lpf setting off somewhere?

Number481•7/28/23, 7:25 PM

I keep my damper at around %20.. no issues. THe only one that induces oscillation for me is friction

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:27 PM

maybe I need to turn friction off

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:28 PM

nope

walmis•7/28/23, 7:29 PM

Need to see your settings to make any guesses

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:30 PM

It's just very intense, it stops oscillating at 2% gain

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:30 PM

walmis•7/28/23, 7:32 PM

Try spring filter @ 15Hz, and set spring strength proportional damping to something like 70%

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:32 PM

tangentially: is there any other way to increase my spring force? after feeling the damper make it solid as a rock I know the motor can cause more resistance, but I have my spring force at max and it is not very strong

walmis•7/28/23, 7:32 PM

You can use spring mapping to increase gain

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:33 PM

also what is the difference between spring strength proportional damping and regular damping?

walmis•7/28/23, 7:33 PM

But that + endstops can cause more stability issues

walmis•7/28/23, 7:34 PM

When spring gain increases, damping also needs to increase to keep it from shaking to death. That (spring strength proportional damping) parameter does that automatically.

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:35 PM

is the other setting a constant regardless of spring gain?

walmis•7/28/23, 7:36 PM

Damping parameter is not dependent on spring gain

walmis•7/28/23, 7:38 PM

Also there is a RHINO-defaults.vpconf file in the configurator directory, that has the updated "factory" settings for the Rhino.

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:40 PM

is there a reason to turn max psu current to 7 down from 9? the PSU rated at 9.5

walmis•7/28/23, 7:41 PM

Just a default safety margin, you can increase it

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:43 PM

wow the new defaults are way better than what I had

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:45 PM

think I discovered why

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:50 PM

So I think it was my axis scaling being off

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:51 PM

That's asking the point of the physical axis where 100% logical is reported, not taking the endstop into account

JarmakOP•7/28/23, 7:52 PM

I had the values in relative to the endstop. But now that I've solved that issue I'm getting oscilation when I hit the endstops, any tips on easing that? lower spring frequency?

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