still tuning. retraction issue?

Stock v-minion. Silk pla. 203C for the hot end and 60C for the bed. Using firmware retraction: [firmware_retraction] retract_length: 0.5 retract_speed: 60 unretract_extra_length: 0 unretract_speed: 39 Ran multiple retraction towers and cant seem to dial it in.
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3DBoomer
3DBoomer15mo ago
Looks like a slicer issue or pressure advance
wise-white
wise-white15mo ago
I did PA tuning as well. Got a value of 0.107 Does that seem reasonable? I thought it looked like the z-seam
adverse-sapphire
adverse-sapphire15mo ago
This pressure advance might need retuning. Im running a mosquito magnum with an orbiter and mine is only 0.053 Depending on your hardware the setting will be different but with direct drive (which I assume you are using) I'd expect something a bit lower
wise-white
wise-white15mo ago
yes, direct drive. using the PHAETUS DRAGONFLY BMO ST HOTEND ill take a look into this. wondering if i missed a 'zero' kekw
adverse-sapphire
adverse-sapphire15mo ago
Quite possible 🙂 Good luck!
wise-white
wise-white15mo ago
so i made PA 0.0107 and reprinted the same gcode. same exact issue. in the exact same pattern at the same positions on the print.. <face palm>
adverse-sapphire
adverse-sapphire15mo ago
Might be worth running a full PA calibration like on this guide: https://www.klipper3d.org/Pressure_Advance.html#:~:text=Typical%20pressure%20advance%20values%20are,improve%20the%20quality%20of%20prints. It is still weird that you didn't notice any change so it might not be pressure advance after all
wise-white
wise-white15mo ago
Correct. Reset all PA settings and this was the print. Its def at layer change.
wise-white
wise-white15mo ago
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wise-white15mo ago
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wise-white
wise-white15mo ago
Pressure advance cube per the klipper tutorial. I cant see a difference at all in the cube. I reran it again and made sure i didnt miss the gcode. So weird Do yall use any retraction setting with PA settings active?
ratty-blush
ratty-blush15mo ago
This is very odd and unexpected. There should be significant variation throughout the layers, especially when comparing the top and bottom layers of the print. But I’ve seen this when I entered the wrong TUNING_TOWER increment (bowden vs direct drive) or missed one of the tuning gcodes. In the tutorial:
Use a slicer to generate g-code for the large hollow square found in docs/prints/square_tower.stl. Use a high speed (eg, 100mm/s), zero infill, and a coarse layer height (the layer height should be around 75% of the nozzle diameter). Make sure any "dynamic acceleration control" is disabled in the slicer.
Are you sure you got all those? Also can you upload your klippy.log (the one from when you did the tuning tower)?
ratty-blush
ratty-blush15mo ago
Unrelated to the PA and seam issue but this will be worth investigating later: https://ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/articles/troubleshooting/vfas.html
Ellis’ Print Tuning Guide
VFAs (Vertical Fine Artifacts)
Ellis’ Print Tuning Guide
wise-white
wise-white14mo ago
I am on vacation currently and wont be back to test anything until next week. But yes, i followed the tutorial and ensured the proper g-code for a direct drive setup. Ill reattack the issue next week Tweaked the retraction settings.
wise-white
wise-white14mo ago
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wise-white14mo ago
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wise-white
wise-white14mo ago
I think im just gonna start over with the slicer settings. Clean slate. 😭🤦‍♂️
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