Grim Dawn failed to initiate graphics engine
many errors are showing up in the run log.
the log file screenshot of the program running included
couldnt initialize openGL, i'm guessing thats the problem right there .....
how do i test opengl natively in flatpak?
also, the DXVK option in the game config is selected so shouldnt it be using vulkan, not opengl?
115 Replies
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
complete last run log
rival-black•2y ago
This looks sideloaded because the log is missing all indications that it was downloaded from GOG through Heroic
And you’re logged out in the Heroic app
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
correct
it took me over 14hrs just to download 2 versions of wineGE and mono
no ways am i going to try actively download the installer
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
i am no longer getting opengl initialization errors
now it creates a blank screen and freezes
the errors in the log are:
rival-black•2y ago
I’m not going to be of any assistance without a proper log that includes all of the configuration information. That comes with properly loaded games. I will say the proper way to do it is to log in to GOG and then use the import game function, not sideloaded function
Where you start to install, but then click import game
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
i didnt import the game, i installed it via heroic
i just used an already downloaded copy of the installer, instead of trying to download it during the install and having who knows how many failures and who knows what that will do to the install process
downloading the wine-GE-proton-8.xx version took over 8 attempts (14+ hrs) and thats only a 80MB file NOT 3+ GB
if ur asking for the heroic log where it built the wineprefix instead of the game specific last run log, (which i found the address for inside the heroic log) then u will have to tell me where to retrieve the older logs from
i use a proper download manager for downloads so that i have a resume function when it crashes, so that i can avoid needing to download the same file 6+ times as i was forced to do for the wine edition
i am NOT going to even try doing an online install for a complete gog game and need to restart it like 40 times (if i'm lucky)!
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
right, but the full logs give us all the info about how you have things configured and installed. Without them, you will have to tell us manually about every detail of how its configured
like from the looks of this, you dont have dxvk enabled
underlying-yellow•2y ago
this is the complete list of redistributables
DirectX, MSVC2010, MSVC2010_x64, MSVC2012, MSVC2012_x64, MSVC2013, MSVC2013_x64, MSVC2015, MSVC2015_x64
offline installer should've installed them
there is a possiblity that DirectX overwrote DXVK dlls
try disabling and enabling dxvk
also try setting windows 7 as version in winecfg
@borgrelprotestant-coralOP•2y ago
which log?
from what i can understand there are at least 2 separate logs, the heroic log (which u can access through
settings -> log) which logs the wineprefix creation and might log the install process (i'm not sure) and the game last-run log (which u can access through ~/.var/app/com.heroic..../..../GameConfig/xxx.log)
i did post the full log of the last run, both the one that was giving the failed to initialise error (here - attached as text but u can click on the double arrows next to expand to view the entire log without downloading it - https://discord.com/channels/812703221789097985/1150210465113329745/1150210875098148975)
and the full log of when it just gives a blank screen (and here - attached as text and visible below the preformatted text bos where i placed extracts - https://discord.com/channels/812703221789097985/1150210465113329745/1150352671690207372)
if u want the heroic log for the install, it might no longer be visible in settings -> log because ive been fiddling, u either need to tell me where to fetch the older heroic log or tell me that i need to reinstall so u can see that log
yeah, i think so too, its one of the questions i asked in my original post, how do i check?
do u want me to manually winetricks these into the prefix?underlying-yellow•2y ago
offline installer should've installed them
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
untick dxvk in
grim dawn(settings) and then immediately retick or untick, try run and then retick (and maybe try rerun?)underlying-yellow•2y ago
unticking and then ticking it again should suffice
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
how do i check?
underlying-yellow•2y ago
not sure, but try that dxvk and winecfg thing first
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
unticking and reticking brought back the cant initialise error
underlying-yellow•2y ago
Lutris script installs those
vcrun2010 vcrun2012 vcrun2013 vcrun2015 d3dcompiler_43 d3dcompiler_47
give that a shot I guessprotestant-coralOP•2y ago
just changed to win 7
.....it does look like all the MSVC are included
underlying-yellow•2y ago
try d3dcompiler stuff then
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
tested with win7
rebooting to fix the cant initialize error
underlying-yellow•2y ago
btw, make sure you have up to date flatpak runtimes
$ flatpak update if you are on nvidia especiallyprotestant-coralOP•2y ago
yeah, nvidia is kicking my ass atm
it only needed to update freedesktop.platform
ok, still getting couldnt initialize graphics error on win7 even after reboot
???
i clicked on the winetricks button next to winecfg on the
grim dawn(settings) UIunwilling-turquoise•2y ago
Does the file mentioned there exist?
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
this is all it says
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
there is no winetricks folder at that address
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
It would be a file not folder
But it doesn't exist?
Interesting
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
Interesting
Hey @Linguin, any idea about this? Maybe they should reinstall heroic? Or its a bug with the flatpak?
underlying-yellow•2y ago
I guess our winetricks code just sucks
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
Shouldn't there be a winetricks binary there though?
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
should i just drop the flatpak and give the .deb a try?
(there is a .deb right?)
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
You can try it, but the flatpak is usually what we reccomend, it should work
Before that @borgrel maybe you can reinstall heroic flatpak and see if that helps? If not, its a bug I guess
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
do i need to do some kind of a purge, or some kind of an uninstall first?
or just install over?
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
Can't you do
flatpak reinstall heroic?underlying-yellow•2y ago
flatpak install --reinstall com.heroicgameslauncher.hglunwilling-turquoise•2y ago
Oh
That
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
arigato
underlying-yellow•2y ago
どういたしまして
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
Wha?
underlying-yellow•2y ago
you're welcome
in Japanese
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
he says ur mother owes him a cheese burger
still no winetricks
is it supposed to only d/l 1kB?
underlying-yellow•2y ago
it has the package cached
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
i always get
suminasen deshita and douitashi mashite confused ......underlying-yellow•2y ago
I'm still learning 😛
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
i cant find a good learning source
i have tried dozens of supposed learning apps/programs
i know 100's if not thousands of phrases from watching an ungodly amount of anime when i was at uni
but i cant form even a single sentence
where/how do u look up if the current flatpak release is borked?
can i install an older version?
underlying-yellow•2y ago
I wouldn't say it's borked
winetricks has this bug in general, timeout is set to 1 second on the request, this may be the cause of missing winetricks
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
yeah, definitely
my latency is often even 1200+ms
and i cant just use the standard winetricks script
but the reinstall should have retested all undownloaded portions?
how do i manually add
d3cxompiler_43 and d3dcompiler_47 without winetricks? @Linguinunderlying-yellow•2y ago
maybe download winetricks script and place it in the expected location
this is part of DirectX redistributable
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
maybe download winetricks script and place it in the expected locationhow can u replace a binary with a script?? to interact with a script programatically u hijack the standard output and standard error streams to interact with a binary u implement an API .....these 2 are mutually exclusive @Linguin
underlying-yellow•2y ago
winetricks is a bash script
there is no binary
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
cool, i will see if i can pull that off
any idea of what version i need?
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
Basically side loaded game logs do not show enough info about the game and its config. Unlike a game loaded by legendary or gogdl, which shows us your whole configuration. Im mostly lamenting that sideloaded games dont give enough logging. And that there's nothing you can really do to get the logs I was after
Hence since this is a gog game, full logs out of a normally installed gog game will be more clear than the side loaded one.
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
Ah, thanks for explaining
Is there any way to get the gogdl config WITHOUT needing to download the installer during install?
underlying-yellow•2y ago
gogdl doesn't use installers
you can use import feature though
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
Import feature?
underlying-yellow•2y ago
yeah just click on install on the game page and then import
you will be prompted to select game directory
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
what i am doing is clicking on
add game on the library, typing in game name, waiting 5mins for it to fetch a game icon, clicking on run installer first and then select executable
....game page?underlying-yellow•2y ago
gogdl is only used when using built in gog integration
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
nods, and is there a way to allow gogdl to provide the install script without needing to download everything at that time?
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
@borgrel why can't you just use import game? (Not side load/add game, import)
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
There is no import option on the add game ui?
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
it shows up when you try to install
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
You need to be logged in with gog account, u go to install the game and then hit import, as allora said
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
And what will import do?
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
pull it from an already installed location
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
Yeah, and it will launch it as a gog game using gogdl
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
So the normal process would be to use the install option, download the game from gog using gogdl,
Configure it correctly using gogdl
And then on future occasions for example an OS upgrade or a hdd swap use import to bypass the download step by telling heroic that "this prefix has alrdy been configured by gogdl"
???
.... So how do I bypass the download phase by installing the game manually using my Installers and then using import to tell heroic "this has alrdy been configured the way u like, have at it"
??
Am I miss understanding import?
Will it magically reconfigure the prefix that I manually set up with wineHQ to match heroic protocols?
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
unless you dont back up the prefix, it will regenerate the prefix
the prefix and the game install directory are not the same thing
you can sort of think of it as the prefix is the data for the wine environment, and the game data is stored separately in its own folder
so if you back up your prefix and your game and then bring them to a new computer or reinstall the os, the the most you'd have to do is import the game files, and configure the game settings to look at the right prefix folder
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
Yes I understand that, but that still requires that the backed up prefix was generated by gogdl
I'm pretty sure u can't use the import feature for a game prefix created by lutris or wineHQ or PlayOnLinux?
Because that's exactly what import is, a way to reference a previously correctly configured install
I'm not trying to recover a previous heroic install
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
i mean prefixes are generally generated, but they arent really reaching out to the internet for that, if thats your concern?
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
I am trying to move from PoL and wineHQ to heroic (mainly because PoL STILL hasn't implemented a wine7 or above prefix)
And I have ZERO interest in trying to redownload 500+ GB with a 1MB line
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
importing is pulling the game data, which IS what you are looking for
if you've got the game installed already.
heroic will generate its own prefix, which is fine probably
outside of its a per game prefix so .. size can become a concern
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
OK, thanks
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
not surewhat PoL is tho
anyway yeah if you have the game installed, you can import it when you click the "install" button in heroic, and pick its folder.. after that, it should generate a prefix in heroic's prefix location by default, when you run it.
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
it's really old
play on linux
was most popular before proton became a thing
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
ah
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
ok, i have no idea whats happening
......its now using vulkan, even though i havent got winetricks working yet
now the error is
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
conscious-sapphire•2y ago
if you switched to a different version of heroic it might be a good idea to delete the prefix and start over?
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
pls read the entire thread
not switching versions
in fact, first time user on first time install, on clean linux install
already been asked to
flatpak install --reinstall heroic
no change
there are dozens of semi random behaviours that are cropping up
i'm sure there is a single root cause for all of them
hopefully u can work out what it isconscious-sapphire•2y ago
i have read the thread.
it is a different version of heroic because it's from a different source.
deleting the wine prefix is not the same as reinstalling heroic
i did mix up a couple people, i see now that you weren't the person that switch sources that was someone else
can you send a picture of the game's settings page?
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
ou of curiosity are any of those gstreamer files there
like in the folder
i forget you are using flatpak right?
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
nods
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
does it just spam that log? i didnt download the full thing haha (at work)
cuz like ime, its ok to not get any of the decode stuff, but sometimes games dont like it if they cant play their movies
this is maybe the real issue
warn: Skipping Vulkan 1.2 adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 warn: Skipping CPU adapter: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.7, 256 bits) warn: DXVK: No adapters found. Please check your device filter settings and Vulkan setup. A Vulkan 1.3 capable driver is required.
underlying-yellow•2y ago
hmm, Heroic should pull older DXVK if that's really the case
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
You need to update your Nvidia driver in flatpak and remove the old one I guess
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
could the fact that its sideloaded mean it bypassed some stuff?
underlying-yellow•2y ago
it shouldn't
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
it wasnt even trying to use dxvk (as u can see in the old logs)
until after i deleted the newest nvidia driver
(ubuntu 20 and nvidia 535 drivers dont like each other .... its all over the net and i spent a week after installing my OS fighting with that issue itself, my OS is currently running on 470 as was recommended by the only person that helped enough to fix the problem
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
well definitely seems to be the case that its bailing on finding adapters because vulkan version
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
yeah ....... the 1660 should be able to handle vulkan 1.3 ....
ok, confirmed 470 only supports vulkan 1.2
anybody know which is the first nvidia driver version that supports vulkan 1.3?
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
probably not one that ubuntu will make easy to use 🙃
underlying-yellow•2y ago
re enable dxvk
it should rollback to 1.10
even on the outdated driver
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
wonde rhow it got in there in the first place
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
u sir, r a genius ...... it loaded a picture
still wierd but hopefully thats a simple resolution fix
gives enthusiastic kiss
so at the end of the day, the problem is effing ubuntu 20
conscious-sapphire•2y ago
it always is
rival-black•2y ago
525 supports the 1660 (non-ti right?)
ref: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/205863/en-us/
underlying-yellow•2y ago
nvidia suggests 535 for me
underlying-yellow•2y ago
when filling info on this page https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
Download the latest official NVIDIA drivers
Download the latest official NVIDIA drivers
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
even 535 supports 1660
the problem isnt the nvidia driver
but for some reason (something to do with a new kernal feature - defered rendering or something)
ubuntu 20 doesnt agree with the nvidia 500-ish drivers
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
the issue is definitely ubuntu haha
personally .. i really dont like it for games haha
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
unfortunately, gaming is not my primary use for the machine
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
@borgrel of course if youre happy with Ubuntu stick with it, but you could try Nobara/fedora or popos
I personally use nixos but its more advanced.
EndeavorOS can be good but a bit unstabke because its arch-based
Opensuse tumbleweed is fine too
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
using zorin ...... an ubuntu derivitive
they doing impressive work on things like a combined software manager for apt+snap+flatpak ..... natively integrated wine
(no joke take a simple windows program like a calculator and double click the exe and it just runs)
obviously games are a differant story
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
Zorin is not that good imo
Outdated gnome, has premium version, etc
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
as for archbased, i did a stage1 gentoo install in university just to proove i can
now i use whats easy and relaxed thanks
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
For the wine thing isn't that the same in a regular distro with wine installed?
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
nope, u'll still need to create a shell script or xdg launcher or ur choice of poison to run
wine xxxx to run the exe
as for old gnome? its running 38, latest gnome is 43
thats close enough to the edge, thanksforeign-sapphire•2y ago
tbh arch is all the benefits of gentoo without all the annoyance of configuring every little thing and waiting for it to compile
but iused gentoo and arch for years, and arch is my "im too lazy for gentoo" answer
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
do i need to mark this thread as solved, or archived or locked or something?
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
Ive done it
underlying-yellow•2y ago
good that it ended up working 😄
unwilling-turquoise•2y ago
yep exactly
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
i just needed enough time to test all 1000's of combinations of what could be wrong
the help needed is more about how to navigate the UI, and knowledge of expected behaviour
from everything i have read about heroic its superior to lutris, pol and winehq in every way
i was certain i would get it working eventually
(i got all the others running eventually)
many thanks everybody