Are these shirts worth tailoring? Cant find anything in my size
I'm a trans guy and after working from home for so long I may need everyday smart casual/business casul clothes that arent so "fruity" (my real preference is a super tight turtleneck). A couple years ago I got all these to use up a giftcard thinking it would work for this situation but even the smallest size is this baggy on me (dark blue) the white shirt is my attempt to take in that same fit, but I dont think its very good...The white I guess i would wear with khakis instead of the black. The shirts are 14.5/33 and my measurements are 13.5/28, 30 chest, 27 waist, 31 hip. I dont buy clothes often and mostly thrift so I worry even in kids sections I can't find anything that looks passable off the rack so at the tailor I'd be asking them to remake a whole shirt anyway
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White shirt looks pretty good! Shoulders are a bit wide but not much you can do about that. I think it could work with different pants, a higher rise would help a lot here
really? i feel like the pants already look high
I dont want to draw attention to my hips
White shirt looks adequate.
If I was to tailor it I'd get the sleeves shortened
I wouldn’t say pants look high imo. It can depend on fit a lot with drawing attention to your hips, these pants look very slim/skinny fit from the pics which isn’t particularly in style at the moment and probably isn’t helping, personally I’d go for a wider pant then play around with rises and see what you feel comfortable with and what looks best
these are the other pants i have
I agree a higher rise, looser pant would look great. You could also try moving the button on the shirt cuff over to make them tighter so they stay up on your wrist instead of slipping down over your hand.
like the last one? i feel like they need to be taken in around the thighs
Nah I think you could go looser even - like a proper straight cut. They might feel crazy big at first but they make a nice straight line from your hip to the floor if that makes sense, looks nice and clean. fwiw I'm a cis, masc woman who doesn't actively try to pass so take this with a big grain of salt but I have a much bigger difference between my waist and hip than you (29-39) and I think looser pants look more masc on me personally, especially if they don't taper to the ankle and are just cut straight. You don't have to go as wide as many of the guys here do but sth that doesn't hug your knees at all IS worth a try!
Agree with what wonky is saying, it will feel crazy at first if you’re not used to wider pants but imo they definitely look more masc. I think the last pair looks pretty good, yes you could go wider but it’s about feeling comfortable in what you’re wearing as well which won’t happen if you feel way out of your comfort zone!
Also about the cuffs this is what I do on the very rare occasion I’ve got to wear a shirt cos I’ve got skinny ass wrists
https://discord.com/channels/1116793467654381685/1146208902191513630
High rise mens pants are usually flattering and I've found them to be pretty gender affirming personally (in that I feel they make my hips stand out less rather than more). I'm chunkier than you and T gave me a bit of a gut, though, so YMMV. 😅
It's also fine to have some movement on clothes, those last pants are fine and still quite skinny, even accounting for being more or less well fitted. I personally understand why you'd like the first ones though, they do give your torso a nice classically masculine triangular look. But I think you would also get a variant of this with other rises & widths, so maybe just worth trying out.
Back to the shirts, in the future could it be worth shelling out a bit more to just get a shirt or two made? Perhaps working backwards from places that advertise your neck circumference and shoulder width so you don't have to get completely custom-made or whatever. If it's really difficult to find stuff that fits you at all off the rack, it may not be worth the various tailoring costs going forward if you're going to continue working in a field that requires decent shirts.
If it's "just a job" though, that white shirt's measurements should be a good baseline for if future shirt's'll fit okay, or maybe even better.
One thing that may or may not matter is that clothes like trousers used to be cut generously (full cut and high rise) at least partially because part of etiquette back then was to not show off one's physique, if that makes sense. The patterns were developed over time (again, at least partially) to flatter without revealing, and to flatter mildly but treat as a uniform, where men didn't want to stand out for their dress. Times have changed and it's not considered particularly rude to let everyone know you (eg) go to the gym, through your clothing choices. But my point is, if you're trying to make certain elements less obvious, look to styles from the era of men doing that consistently, as inspiration.
I think the shirt is a little big but looks nice in a casual manner like an oversized fit and +1 for high rise pants and baggy pants theyre amazing
especially high rise since it comes up higher and with the shirt tucked in looks really clean imo