Hello does anyone here have a profile for the Rhino mimicking the real F-16 stick with minimal movem

Hello does anyone here have a profile for the Rhino mimicking the real F-16 stick with minimal movement? Is it possible to replicate it with the Rhino?

Bob Bushman•10/22/23, 7:52 PM

No, it measures travel, the f16 stick measures force.

SpatzOP•10/22/23, 7:55 PM

Oh sad I thought it could be possible if you make the stick very stiff and read very sensitive movement

Bob Bushman•10/22/23, 7:58 PM

Technically possible, but at that point you basically use it as a set of buttons with no control on strength.

Force sensing sticks is probably the only thing the rhino can't emulate.

SSpatz Hello does anyone here have a profile for the Rhino mimicking the real F-16 stic...

walmis•10/22/23, 8:01 PM

It's somewhat possible, but it's hard to tune it to be stable and stiff at the same time

ddrake1984•10/22/23, 8:57 PM

Wouldnt have thought the resolution was going to be good enough

Bob Bushman•10/22/23, 11:34 PM

I'm also sure you could fly the viper fine like with any other spring based stick.

Anyhoo, could always spend another €12k on a realsim forcesensing gimbal and grip.

Fierce_Fire•10/22/23, 11:55 PM

Or go winwing for cheaper

VPforceBot•10/23/23, 8:29 AM

RHINO #0229 Has Shipped!

NoboSprit•10/23/23, 9:09 AM

I want to buy one, how to proceed?

Fr4Ged•10/23/23, 9:11 AM

get on the waitlist:
http://reserve.vpforce.eu/

Google Docs

VPforce RHINO Preorder

Enter your details here, so you can enter the waiting queue for the Rhino FFB base.
Once the queue progresses I will get in touch with further details.

Quick FAQ:
The Rhino costs - 800EUR + Shipping (~80EUR to USA/Canada on average, up to 40EUR in EU)
It is compatible with Virpil/Thrustmaster Grips out of the box
WinWing/VKB GFII grips are supp...

Jon (Bounty_V)•10/23/23, 9:15 AM

faq

VPforceBot•10/23/23, 9:40 AM

RHINO #0230 Has Shipped!

BBob Bushman I'm also sure you could fly the viper fine like with any other spring based stic...

Sleepy81•10/23/23, 9:23 PM

It’s not that bad. The FSSB-R3 force sensing base is 500 EUR. Then a TM Viper stick for a few hundred will get you a very good viper replication. I have this, and tougher with my Rhino (when I get it) I have all the options!

Bob Bushman•10/23/23, 9:27 PM

The tm or virpil grips arent made for those forces and most end up snapping them off after some month's to a year.

It works but honestly can't consider them as a good idea in the long term.

And realsim wants €100 for shipping, and you get tax on top of that.

Anthony•10/23/23, 9:42 PM

VPC I agree due to the plastic

Anthony•10/23/23, 9:42 PM

But TM... for all the shortcuts they take, I've had mine mounted on my FSSB for going on 10 years now

Anthony•10/23/23, 9:42 PM

No problems with it breaking

Jon (Bounty_V)•10/23/23, 9:44 PM

I'm still considering upgrading to VKB MCG Ultimate someday for my Rhino THINKING

Bob Bushman•10/23/23, 9:59 PM

Well the only metal parts pn tm are connectors and the outside of the grips, the rest plastic and glue.

JJon (Bounty_V)I'm still considering upgrading to VKB MCG Ultimate someday for my Rhino <a:THIN...

TonyM•10/23/23, 10:33 PM

Still my prefered stick! Just a little too large for my hands and quite too heavy for the long extension. But the feel is just fantastic! If you are after that, go for it!

Jon (Bounty_V)•10/23/23, 10:34 PM

Yeah I have to raise the height adjustment on the right side quite high on my MCG Pro to feel comfortable for my small hands.

TTonyM Still my prefered stick! Just a little too large for my hands and quite too heav...

Jon (Bounty_V)•10/23/23, 10:38 PM

The ultimate is exact same dimensions as pro, right?

TonyM•10/23/23, 10:45 PM

Sorry I don‘t know as I don‘t have the Pro (only VKB space Kosmosima, and Virpil Alpha Prime which doesn’t feel as good as the MCGU).

Jon (Bounty_V)•10/23/23, 10:48 PM

makes sense

harf4ng•10/24/23, 7:59 AM

Hi, for orders within EU, the 800€ of the rhino, does it include VAT? Or should I add 20% more for VAT? Thanks

Popo•10/24/23, 8:03 AM

it does

PPopo it does

harf4ng•10/24/23, 8:10 AM

Ok thanks. Need to know how much I should save as I also need a virpil apache collective

Popo•10/24/23, 8:11 AM

you are not a man of cheap taste

PPopo you are not a man of cheap taste

harf4ng•10/24/23, 8:14 AM

Not really, as I have ordered the rhino, took a virpil constellation prime and an extension to fly helicopters with, have a virpil base and left stick for star citizen, a warthog stick for right hand, and a warthog throttle. Oh yes and virpil pedals as well and a FFB seat ^^ Though I have not bought this all at once, I bought that part by part for a few years now ^^ (and I fly in VR as well)

VPforceBot•10/24/23, 9:21 AM

RHINO #0232 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•10/24/23, 9:21 AM

RHINO #0231 Has Shipped!

harf4ng•10/24/23, 12:56 PM

My number is 353, I guess I'll receive it early 2O24

VPforceBot•10/25/23, 10:58 AM

RHINO #0234 Has Shipped!

GeezAlbert•10/25/23, 3:47 PM

hi! i see many cool rudder pedals in your pics. any suggestion? i've seen the vkb ones which are kinda cheap but they look amazing! the only thing they lack is the toe brakes which virpil has but for almost double the price...thoughts? i find the toe brakes useful...im now using the logitech rudder pedals but they suck for heli sim

GGeezAlbert hi! i see many cool rudder pedals in your pics. any suggestion? i've seen the vk...

CaptFlushGarden (John Liberto)•10/25/23, 3:49 PM

Thrustmaster TPR highly recommend, also get the Damper mod it makes it so nice

GGeezAlbert hi! i see many cool rudder pedals in your pics. any suggestion? i've seen the vk...

SmallFoot•10/25/23, 3:50 PM

MFG Crosswind pedals with damper have been great so far

Fierce_Fire•10/25/23, 3:51 PM

As a user of the vkb pedals, they work just fine. You mostly need toebrakes for landing, and for that you can simply bind a button

Bob Bushman•10/25/23, 3:54 PM

Or use a grip, like the virpils with the Russian style brake lever. Many options.

Bob Bushman•10/25/23, 3:55 PM

Alfhough haven't personally liked that much, but I've also had the crosswinds with toebrakes before i got that.

SSmallFoot MFG Crosswind pedals with damper have been great so far

GeezAlbert•10/25/23, 6:53 PM

thanks!

CCaptFlushGarden (John Liberto)Thrustmaster TPR highly recommend, also get the Damper mod it makes it so nice

GeezAlbert•10/25/23, 6:53 PM

thanks!

FFierce_Fire As a user of the vkb pedals, they work just fine. You mostly need toebrakes for ...

GeezAlbert•10/25/23, 6:53 PM

thought about the same thing

GeezAlbert•10/25/23, 6:54 PM

if i were to get the TM i might as well get virpil IMHO

ionutned•10/25/23, 8:43 PM

Hey guys,
495 Rhinos to go!
According to my rough estimate that's about 1 year, am I wrong?

Fr4Ged•10/25/23, 10:06 PM

!status

FFr4Ged !status

VPforceBot•10/25/23, 10:06 PM

Hey @fr4ged,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0234 on 2023-10-25
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 208 days, median is 221 days, max is 292 days
230 Rhinos are shipped in total

FFierce_Fire As a user of the vkb pedals, they work just fine. You mostly need toebrakes for ...

amadeus•10/26/23, 6:39 AM

i createda joystick gremlin plugin that allows you to mux a single brake axis and a single rudder pedal axis into spitfire-style differential braking for any aircraft that requires a left and right brake axis: https://gist.github.com/amadeus/77998a489180606bf42a821e834389b9

VPforceBot•10/26/23, 7:49 AM

RHINO #0233 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•10/26/23, 8:15 AM

RHINO #0235 Has Shipped!

GeezAlbert•10/26/23, 2:00 PM

i read some messages saying that the stick can now mock the stick position in game is that true? also whats the potentiometer for? hahaha