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Heroic Launcher & Crossover 23.7 incompatibility

I'm using Crossover 23.7 which has all the GPTK goodness built in. Unfortunately Heroic launcher can't launch Crossover 23.7 and instead when you specify that as the wrapper, it will try to launch the exe directly which will fail. I've managed to start these with scripts. There are options when you use your own Crossover/Wine but when you use a standard offering, you get what you're given.

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xenial-blackOP•2y ago

1439656515-lastPlay....

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

I'm a new Heroic user, Heroic has never worked for me with Windows games on Mac but has been fine for same on Steamdeck

stormy-gold•2y ago

this is a bug in gogdl and nile they don't support crossover yet

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

it just seems like it's trying to launch the exe directly instead of wrapping it in the wine call

stormy-gold•2y ago

ye that's right

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

and that's an issue with gogdl?

stormy-gold•2y ago

yeah partially heroic's problem too but the main issue is in gogdl

stormy-gold•2y ago

heroic side change: https://github.com/Heroic-Games-Launcher/HeroicGamesLauncher/pull/3308

GitHub

[FIX] Using crossover with gog and amazon by Etaash-mathamsetty · P...

Fixes #3118 requires support in gogdl and nile, I don't think either of them has support for crossover :( Use the following Checklist if you have changed something on the Backend or Frontend: ...

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

the top of the log shows that it knows exactly what needs to run - that's the irony also the fact that "Crossover" is splashed all over the heroic UI and that it auto announces "Crossover-23.x"

stormy-gold•2y ago

yeah I was surprised by this finding too

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

That PR looks highly superfluous. I don't think Crossover needs more than a wine binary and a prefix unless you want to detect where bottles are for instance. The app already does that I made this script to launch Bioshock for instance:

faye@FayesMaxBookPro ~ % cat ~/bin/bioshockhd 
#!/bin/sh
cd ~/Games/Heroic/BioShock\ Remastered/Build/Final
/Applications/CrossOver.app/Contents/SharedSupport/CrossOver/bin/wine --bottle Heroic BioshockHD.exe

faye@FayesMaxBookPro ~ % cat ~/bin/bioshockhd 
#!/bin/sh
cd ~/Games/Heroic/BioShock\ Remastered/Build/Final
/Applications/CrossOver.app/Contents/SharedSupport/CrossOver/bin/wine --bottle Heroic BioshockHD.exe

this is no different than running any other wine

stormy-gold•2y ago

it is different since crossover is supposed to handle stuff on it's own too... at least to my knowledge

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

nope it's just Wine

stormy-gold•2y ago

what a scam

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

no, they WROTE wine they choose to give a lot of functionality free

stormy-gold•2y ago

yeah I know, I contribute there too...

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

🙂

stormy-gold•2y ago

so the wine binary knows what a bottle is? and it can also read the CX_BOTTLE env variable?

CommandMC•2y ago

This is incorrect, CX also offers their own version of game installers Along with that, you're also paying for the support

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

they have some stuff on top of wine I am not complaining about CX, please don't advocate CX to me 🙂 I just have a problem with Heroic, which seems like a simple thing to fix and if I had more time I'd check the heroic code myself they make life a lot easier, I'm subscribed to them well into the future 🙂

CommandMC•2y ago

Adding CX support to GOGDL and Nile isn't that hard, someone's just gotta do it (and ideally be able to test it too)

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

we don't need that what's failing is associating my choice of wine with the correct commandline. It's almost like it just needs a configuration entered

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

this is where the wine choice comes from, not GOG

CommandMC•2y ago

Not to come off as rude, but you don't know what I'm taking about Yes, the issue is that Heroic isn't passing your CrossOver selection to the appropriate CLI wrapper, but the CLI wrappers then also have to support being passed a CrossOver install. The PR linked above does the former, with the latter being TODO

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

why is it treating one wine executable differently than another wine executable? you're making a distinction where none exists oh, wait you're saying you rely on GOG to do your cross platform? that seems like a mistake

stormy-gold•2y ago

we don't rely on GOG for anything other than their servers

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

I mean they are Windows games so don't expect to run under Mac so they don't need wine

CommandMC•2y ago

Yeah uh, have fun trying to educate me about this while having no idea how any of this works, I'll be using my time a bit more productively

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

I'll just use Heroic to check for game updates, run my script to enjoy my games, let you go back to your stuff. but I will say, I don't think you should special case crossover. It is being used like wine here. It has made my life a lot easier downloading using Heroic, want you to know you are appreciated

stormy-gold•2y ago

wait they are not wrong... at all legendary just handles all of this internally for some reason that's so suspicious ill update that PR could you test legendary with it I think legendary is the one that would break cuz of it ok try the updated MR once CI finishes building

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

Thanks for your attention, sorry if you thought I was giving you all shade or something. It really wasn't my intent.

stormy-gold•2y ago

you came off as pretty rude and didn't give any concrete proof, so I just assumed it was the way I thought it was

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

sorry, ADHD/Autism, I can be pretty direct and I think it can be worse with text

stormy-gold•2y ago

all good man i'm the same way sometimes

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

I may never install something else in a bottle again after this though, why can't all game installers work this way? 😄

CommandMC•2y ago

Legendary is intended to be a much more user-facing tool, which is the only reason CrossOver even worked without your PR (since someone apparently forgot to test their Legendary command parsing changes on macOS) I think passing the Wine binary directly instead should be fine, but there may be some edge cases I'm forgetting about; Legendary has some slices of Wine Management in it as well & I'm not sure how well-tested these are on macOS + "regular Wine" We'd also have to verify that CrossOver integration (as in, with the actual application) still works, people apparently rely on that to launch games like GTA V

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

call it an alpha it's not expected to work, but if it does, yay! like I think I had to install my own stuff into the bottle I'm running Cyberpunk 2077 and Horizon Zero Dawn - they seem to work well when launched this way. I just would love to click the icon to start my game (like steam) I don't have GTAV to test I do admire what you're doing BTW - having an Apple native program even attempt to manage non-native software is a challenge. I think what you've done is so close to perfect.

CommandMC•2y ago

I see, I'm sorry for misinterpreting you then. From my perspective, it seemed like you were trying to educate me on a subject I know a lot about; maybe the years of tech support have made me more grumpy after all

xenial-blackOP•2y ago

it does that to all of us I'm afraid I've been in the industry for 30 years now hey - I have to book but I hope y'all have a great day and thanks for you time.

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