Rebel Galaxy Outlaw will not launch in Heroic Default Settings
Here is the Log: I tried copy pasting the log but doesn't let me basically it complains that: mfc42u, and scnlib is missing.
51 Replies
ugly-tan•2y ago
post logs, and is this windows or linux?
https://discord.com/channels/812703221789097985/1044301598018515105
typical-coralOP•2y ago
I tried but discord doesn't let me paste for some reason. I will figure it out just new to it. It is txt .
ugly-tan•2y ago
rename to txt
or put up on pastebin
typical-coralOP•2y ago
ugly-tan•2y ago
dont use wine-ge-LoL those are only meant for the game league of legends
also ensure you have vulkan drivers setup for your GPU
typical-coralOP•2y ago
any idea which wine I should use?
ugly-tan•2y ago
wine-ge-latest is fine
typical-coralOP•2y ago
ok thank you very much I will give that a try. I also confirmed Vulkan drivers are setup and running on my system and are detecting the AMD Radeon GPUs.
stormy-gold•2y ago
you should probably also use the
amdgpu package instead of radeontypical-coralOP•2y ago
pretty sure MESA is already supporting Radeon FirePro D500 chips based on phoronix news. I don't think AMDPGU will work with Debian 12 so probably a no go.
Wohoo I got further using wine-ge-latest and winetricks install mfc42 and vcrun6, vcrun6sp1, dxvk now it launched a graphical window of the Double Damage - huge improvement since at least it doesn't silently fail anymore. However it crashes and only the splash shows. Now it appears that oleout32, NTLM is the issue.
stormy-gold•2y ago
https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo which also includes the kernel parameters to have it work on your D500 too
typical-coralOP•2y ago
typical-coralOP•2y ago
not compatible with Debian 12 and drivers are missing components including amdgpu-lib32 rocm-opencl-runtime so don't think I want to install that
stormy-gold•2y ago
maybe I just don't understand what Debian 12 lacks other than a recent kernel, but I don't understand how the AMDGPU package can exist for it but not be functional https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
typical-coralOP•2y ago
This is my third attempt with mfc42, vcrun6, vcrun6sp1, dxvk installed via winetricks - it is going somewhere since my error log is getting longer
ugly-tan•2y ago
try disabling dxvk
vulkan isnt initializing so i suspect weird driver issues due to your gpu
correct-apricot•2y ago
isn't the radeon driver no good? i thought there was an amd driver that was good
ugly-tan•2y ago
this is a prosumer gpu so its not quite typical gamer hardware
so i worry its driver support isnt up to snuf for games specifically
anyway, when you run it with dxvk off i'd be interested in the logs
stormy-gold•2y ago
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/firepro-d500.c2556
Vulkan 1.2.170gonna have to disable or downgrade dxvk
adverse-sapphire•2y ago
no actually
it will support 1.3 on amdgpu kernel driver
stormy-gold•2y ago
I don't think OP is willing to do that
good to know though
adverse-sapphire•2y ago
then no gaming cuz radeon doesn't support vk at all
stormy-gold•2y ago
I linked the Debian docs as well earlier
after suggesting using
amdgpu instead of radeonadverse-sapphire•2y ago
it is compatible
all you have to do is edit /etc/default/grub
and add radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1
to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
ugly-tan•2y ago
earlier op noted they weren't interested in changing driver fwiw
adverse-sapphire•2y ago
oh then don't expect to play games then
stormy-gold•2y ago
at least I know that I wasn't off the mark
adverse-sapphire•2y ago
esp on GCN cards
linux will provide a better experience
but only if you switch to amdgpu
ugly-tan•2y ago
O_O is this a mac pro running debian?
typical-coralOP•2y ago
Hi Allora, with DXVK off, purged the dxvk in wintricks, and prefix settings it splashes the load DD window, but then my main screen freezes and turns black. It creates an error generating the monitor I believe.
typical-coralOP•2y ago
Hey OOOOOF123 is there anything in particular in the log that makes you believe that amdgpu AMD driver would work better?
ugly-tan•2y ago
I mean you need to install amdgpu
It supports vulkan
Which is more or less required for games
typical-coralOP•2y ago
based on this output radeon supports amdgpu
typical-coralOP•2y ago
ugly-tan•2y ago
Several links in this thread have been posted on what you need to do. Id use one of those
typical-coralOP•2y ago
Ah based on this Vulkan is not using the amdgpu driver. Since amdgpu can work based on comments above I will give that a try.
typical-coralOP•2y ago
Switched to AMDGPU it says for testing only and not compliant with Vulkan but so far it works and game launched after DD splash loading completed! Re-enabled DXVK and default parameters and also launched successfully! 😀 Thank you for your quick help awesome forum! Also credit to the ARCH wiki writeups which are super thorough and helped tremendously. Steps: 1. download latest AMD Radeon for linux driver Ubuntu 22.04.3 "".deb version and install dpkg -i amdgpu"".deb, 2. then run install using "amdgpu-install --usecase=graphics,opencl,rocm,openclsdk,hip,hiplibsdk --opencl=rocr,legacy --vulkan=amdvlk,pro --no-32 --accept-eula, 3. update grub as indicated above GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet radeonsi_support=0 amdgpu_support=1" , thank god I didn't have to recompile the kernel!
correct-apricot•2y ago
:Pandayay:
adverse-sapphire•2y ago
My question is why are you downloading the amd proprietary driver
But great that you got it working
ugly-tan•2y ago
yeah radv is the better option
typical-coralOP•2y ago
Honestly I don't know, will there be a difference? That is just the only link i found with a .deb packaged AMD driver for AMD64 system
stormy-gold•2y ago
Did the package that is referenced here not work?
here as well
adverse-sapphire•2y ago
yeah the difference with not using the proprietary driver is that your vulkan driver will actually work
amd dropped support years ago
typical-coralOP•2y ago
did not try it but now i see there is a .deb package for amdgpu I could probably try that instead, ok gave the opensource amdgpu driver a try after uninstalling the manual install for the proprietary driver, that didn't seem to work and after game launch monitor crashed. so either I didn't properly uninstall or initialize the open source amdgpu driver😖
adverse-sapphire•2y ago
oh yeah uninstalling that thing never worked for me
it's super sketchy
I would always have to reinstall linux
I would just stay away from amd's drivers, use radeonsi and radv (both included in mesa)
typical-coralOP•2y ago
pretty happy with the situation right now but next time i am doing a fresh install I keep it in mind, also maybe it had something to do with my card which is a HD 7800 XT so could be the open source driver according to GIT may not be supported - it states only supports RX 7800
there might be a hardware difference
adverse-sapphire•2y ago
the open source driver does support it
just not offically (because of the need of the kernel param)
im surprised the amd driver is even running
it barely worked on my vega apu in early 2022
how on earth would it work on a 2014 gpu...
I would get graphical corruption and stuff constantly
typical-coralOP•2y ago
huh interesting i saw graphical corruptions with the open source one not just tearing but artifacts even during boot. I think the tearing happened on boot after I entered the decrypt password, so could have been when it started loading the user space, my guess, just before it switches to the processes that are loading
adverse-sapphire•2y ago
during boot there's no userspace driver running
that means you are confusing termonology
amdgpu is open source KERNEL driver
amdgpu-install is some bs script made by amd that installs their properitary userspace driver
mesa is another userspace driver that runs not only faster than amd's drivers, but also works on old hardware
typical-coralOP•2y ago
thanks for the clarification